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22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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Looking to buy a 22 cal compact or sub-compact pistol small enough for purse CC. Looking to spend 200+ depending on weapon.

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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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How about a 642 38, it's small enough to fit in most purses and even in my back pocket. Has more stopping power and crimson trace for fast on target
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If it must be a .22 then I suggest you find a 9 shot .22 lr snubby like the H&R model 900 that was my father's EDC 50 years ago.
It's now, occasionally, my BUG.
Nearly everybody has a model like my H&R. Taurus, High Standard, S&W (model 317), etc.

I also suggest an S&W J frame, like a 442 or 642 in .38 sp +P. They, unfortunately, have a really snappy recoil because of the lack of weight. That is, they're light to carry but not much fun to shoot often.
I won a 442 Heller Commemorative as a door prize a few years ago that I carry when I don't feel like carrying my 1911.

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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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I would not recommend a .22 for CC/OC purposes. It's not generally considered a useful round for anything over a couple of pounds. That doesn't mean you can't die from being shot with one, but that rather that it's a poor choice. Generally somewhere between a .32ACP and .380Auto is what most people consider the lower end of self defense cartridges. I personally don't like anything smaller than .380Auto (e.g. Ruger LCP) and that only if I can't carry a larger pistol. In the compact/sub-compact range I prefer .38Sp and 9mm as the lower end. You have to take it in order to give it; can't violate the laws of physics.

Why are you looking at .22s to carry?
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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+1 on the S&W J-frames or similar size revolvers. I like the Ruger LCR with a Crimson Trace laser for a small CC wheel gun.

As far as the difference in recoil between the .38 and .22 goes, this can be overcome with proper training and practice. After all, any CC handgun will only be used as a last resort in a desperate situation. Make sure the gun you carry is an effective one.
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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OakRidgeStars wrote:As far as the difference in recoil between the .38 and .22 goes, this can be overcome with proper training and practice. After all, any CC handgun will only be used as a last resort in a desperate situation. Make sure the gun you carry is an effective one.
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You can get 38 self defence low recoil loads, very pleastant to shoot
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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Im open to any and all suggestions and willing to pay a reasonable price for a good reliable weapon. The reason I said 22 is that I had a 22 pistol WAY back in the day and I really liked the weight and size but I'm definately willing to look into other options.

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I don't know about your area but down here they grow them big and fat. A 22 on one of them here would just piss them off. No matter what you get make sure it can STOP someone before they get to you. Also make sure you take a training class and learn to defend yourself.
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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I'm ex military and have 4 brothers so I can hold my own when it comes to defense but I work nights and do tend to travel a lot and my 40 cal is like lugging round a hand cannon. I want something small but with stopping power that I can carry. My job is anti gun carry but what they don't know won't hurt them. Since they don't walk us to our cars at nights its my right to protect myself if need be. Hence why I need a smaller size

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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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As others here have suggested, you would be much better protected with a .380 caliber pistol. There is no way that I would trust my life, or anyone's life to anything smaller. The Ruger LCP or S&W body guard .380 are excellent choices, small size to make them easily concealable, and pack a sufficient punch to grab some attention.

A .22 will only aggravate an attacker in most circumstances.
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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feralmuse wrote:my 40 cal is like lugging round a hand cannon
.40 cal and the other common SD rounds are not even remotely hand cannons. E.g. they would be very poor choices to hunt even medium sized game with; the standard SD cartridges aren't overpowered, if anything they are underpowered as a compromise for easy of use and rapid follow up shots. They all are around that 400-500 ft-lbs because that's what the average person can handle reasonably well with limited training. Same goes for LE/military. For example, it almost always requires several rounds to stop an attacker. The one round stop, wounding them, warning shots, etc. are mostly a myth of Hollywood.

If that's too much, check out the various small .38Sp and .380Autos. There are a punch of them and they go down to pocket sized. E.g. Ruger LCP. There are plenty of sub-compacts chambered in 9mm-.45ACP that would give you much smaller size, yet a decent level of firepower. Your HiPoint is a brick compared to them.
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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Since Bill's not here I have to throw out the PK380 as a good "larger than pocket, but smaller than a sub-compact" SD pistol.
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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That would be Sgt. Bill referenced by gunderwood.

Add me to those that would rather a larger caliber. I have seen a few .22 woundings with one to the heart and one to a major blood vessel (chest). Both of those were conscious over a half hour later. If the sight of a pistol or the sound of the discharge doesn't scare off an attacker, one could come to serious harm.
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Re: 22 caliber compact or sub-compact

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Okay, I'm taking the advice of all you gun gurus out there and going for a bit bigger caliber.:) talked with Paliden about a S n W 642 that he has up for sale.

I want to thank you guys for all the knowledge and information you are sharing, yall are AWESOME!!! Thanks again !!!

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