A preview of what's to come in 2012?

[OakRidgeStars]

Anyone see a problem with this one?. Nah, me either.

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/02/comi ... s-to-vote/

[VBshooter]

Nah just as long as they keep it over there,,The last thing we need is for Obama ,CA,NY,IL and other liberal sewers to think its a good idea here,we have enough bad voters not in jail as evidenced by Reid and Boxer being reelected yesterday

[CowboyT]

Anyone see a problem with this one?. Nah, me either.

Wow...and you guys wonder why conservatives so often get painted as racists and bigots....

[WRW]

Anyone see a problem with this one?. Nah, me either.

Wow...and you guys wonder why conservatives so often get painted as racists and bigots....

Wow... until you posted that, all I saw was prison uniforms. Had to go back and look for what was referenced.

[OakRidgeStars]

When all else fails... whip out the race card



waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!!!

[Taggure]

Sorry CowboyT as I agree with you on most things, but I don't care what color they are Prisoners do not, and should not have the right to vote until they have paid thier debt to society. I do feel that once that debt has been paid that they should be allowed to vote.

[VBshooter]

They can call it or me ,,, whatever they want, Screw Em!! ,Prisoners don;tvote and I;'ll add NO ID NO VOTE either!!

[CowboyT]

Sorry CowboyT as I agree with you on most things, but I don't care what color they are Prisoners do not, and should not have the right to vote until they have paid thier debt to society. I do feel that once that debt has been paid that they should be allowed to vote.

Umm...I never said prisoners should have the right to vote before paying their debt to society. Actually, I agree 100% with what you've said. But this picture is blatantly racist, and some folks around here clearly think it's OK. That's really a shame and a poor reflection on both gun owners and conservatives. Not that I'm a conservative, but we still need to be better than this.

[Reverenddel]

OH NO Cowboy T, you're DEFINITELY not a Conservative!

[WRW]

Sorry CowboyT as I agree with you on most things, but I don't care what color they are Prisoners do not, and should not have the right to vote until they have paid thier debt to society. I do feel that once that debt has been paid that they should be allowed to vote.

Umm...I never said prisoners should have the right to vote before paying their debt to society. Actually, I agree 100% with what you've said. But this picture is blatantly racist, and some folks around here clearly think it's OK. That's really a shame and a poor reflection on both gun owners and conservatives. Not that I'm a conservative, but we still need to be better than this.

I am kinda thick in the skull. You want to explain the blatant racism in the photo? Keep it simple, so I can understand.

[KaosDad]

The photograph was selected to elicit a certain degree of FUD in the reader. Not only in the fact that allof the prisoners shown are of a minority (at least as defined in the US) but are also obviously unhappy and looking a bit thuggish.

The story would not have anywhere NEAR the same impact if you showed some nerdy white collar criminal reading a law book or a couple of gents playing chess in the The Yard.

The selection of thephoto was ment to speak to several levels of bigotry on both a concious & subconcious level.

[Taggure]

I think and correct me if I am wrong, but the Fact that there are only one group of folks in this picture and not a wide range of individuals portrayed as the potential voting block is what CowboyT is referring to.

[WRW]

I think and correct me if I am wrong, but the Fact that there are only one group of folks in this picture and not a wide range of individuals portrayed as the potential voting block is what CowboyT is referring to.

So, you are saying that the photographer should have found a group congregating together consisting of 6 african americans, 2 hispanics, 1 white guy and 1 other to represent the prison population?

[gunderwood]

I think and correct me if I am wrong, but the Fact that there are only one group of folks in this picture and not a wide range of individuals portrayed as the potential voting block is what CowboyT is referring to.

So, you are saying that the photographer should have found a group congregating together consisting of 6 african americans, 2 hispanics, 1 white guy and 1 other to represent the prison population?

That seems to be the "blatant racism" complaint as far as I can tell. The problem is that that those sort of statistics are averages and have virtually no meaning in a small enough sample space. Given the reality of prison life, I'd be willing to bet that most authentic prison photos show all Whites or all Hispanics etc too.

I.e. there is a non-uniform statistical distribution of all races in prison, but more importantly they tend to self-segregate so that in general any particular (none wide angle) photo will show only one race.

I don't know enough about the author to know why that photo was chosen. Racism may or may not have played a role in the decision to use that photo.

[TheGodfather]

[wylde007]

They can call it or me whatever they want, Screw Em!! Prisoners don'tvote and I'll add NO ID NO VOTE either!!

People receiving welfare should not be allowed to vote.

Non-landowners should not be allowed to vote.

The unemployed should not be allowed to vote.

Each and every one of those particular "classes" of people votes for interests which only serve to further their own at the expense of those who PROVIDE for welfare, those who OWN LAND and those who are EMPLOYED.

Once the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury the majority will vote for whichever politician promises them the most benefits from that treasury.

And in a time when more and more people are "benefiting" from public welfare, suffering from unemployment and being evicted and foreclosed from homes they could NEVER HAVE AFFORDED in the first place, there is nowhere for this trend to go but up.

[Paliden]

receiving welfare should not be allowed to vote.

Non-landowners should not be allowed to vote.

The unemployed should not be allowed to vote.

Each and every one of those particular "classes" of people votes for interests which only serve to further their own at the expense of those who PROVIDE for welfare, those who OWN LAND and those who are EMPLOYED.

This is the stupidest thing I ever heard and most insulting to me personally! I AM unemployed, not on welfare, no unemployment, making it on MY OWN SIR! No I can't find a job, I have 70% kidney failure being caused by my service in Vietnam. No I'm not on disability. Very active in the tea party. And now YOU tell I should not F&*%ing vote.
WAKE UP

[gunderwood]

receiving welfare should not be allowed to vote.

Non-landowners should not be allowed to vote.

The unemployed should not be allowed to vote.

Each and every one of those particular "classes" of people votes for interests which only serve to further their own at the expense of those who PROVIDE for welfare, those who OWN LAND and those who are EMPLOYED.

This is the stupidest thing I ever heard and most insulting to me personally! I AM unemployed, not on welfare, no unemployment, making it on MY OWN SIR! No I can't find a job, I have 70% kidney failure being caused by my service in Vietnam. No I'm not on disability. Very active in the tea party. And now YOU tell I should not F&*%ing vote.
WAKE UP

That may have been a poorly worded line. I think the intent was unemployment benefits?

The idea is that those who have nothing to lose think nothing of voting away others rights and money.

[Paliden]

That may have been a poorly worded line. I think the intent was unemployment benefits?

The idea is that those who have nothing to lose think nothing of voting away others rights and money.[/quote]
I knew that BUT you can't make blanket statement about EVERYONE who is. In a lot of cases it is true, BUT in a lot IT IS NOT

[wylde007]

If someone does not have a vested interest in where money is coming from (employed, landowner) then they should have no say in where it goes.

I don't know how much clearer I can make that point, and I'm pretty sure the founders would agree with me.

See, many unemployed who are still property owners would be allowed to vote. Unemployed could mean don't have to work, don't want to work or retired.

You're right, the sentence was a little ambiguous. I hope I've cleared it up a little, but probably not much.