New to VIRGINIA... Need some advice

[Jack]

Hello All
I am active duty Navy and im relocating to VIRGINIA BEACH.... Have a few questions for you

Is there a LOCAL weapon trading website for virginia beach area?
How dificult and how much $$$ is it go get CCW in virginia?
Can weapons be traded/sold LEGALY with only bill of sale?/ must all weapons be registered?
Does VA have a HI-CAP law....(can i bring my AK47/Beretta 96?
Does anyone know if OCEANA has a decent range or one in town..(reasonably priced)?
Am i forgetting anything i need to know?

ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNES WILL BE APPRECIATED!!

THANKS
JACK
USN

("If you DONT stand BEHIND our troops .... feel free to stand in FRONT of them!!!
AMERICAN BY BIRTH....PATRIOT BY CHOICE!!!!!

[OakRidgeStars]

Welcome to VGOF, Jack

You can find lots of people from the Hampton Roads area trading on www.vaguntrader.com

Private gun sales between VIRGINIA residents is legal.

Use the links at the top left of this page to find information on obtaining a VA CHP.

You can find the C2 Shooting Center just South off Oceana, in the Pungo section of VA Beach. http://www.thec2center.com/

[allingeneral]

Hi Jack. Welcome aboard, Shipmate!

There is also a VGOF Marketplace where you can buy, sell and trade firearms and accessories. If you have a Virginia Driver's License, you are legally a Virginia resident for purposes of private sales.

No bill of sale is required for private purchases. No registration of weapons is required.

The only Hi-CAP requirement is that if you don't have a CHP, you cannot carry a firearm with over 20 rounds capacity.
http://vagunforum.net/virginia-laws/cod ... ws-t2.html

CHP is $50 to the County Clerk and up to 45 days for processing.
http://vagunforum.net/carrying/conceale ... s-t16.html

[gunderwood]

What State are you moving from?

[Jack]

What State are you moving from?

Pensacola FL..... Been here for 3 years, should be leaving in a week or so. (pensacola is the farthest east i have EVER BEEN)
Im from ROSWELL NM...lol
Dont know anything about the east coast but im lookin forward to it...

[Jakeiscrazy]

Check out http://www.wheretoshoot.org/ for a shooting range.

I hope you enjoy it here and welcome to the forum!

[t33j]

Am i forgetting anything i need to know?

No carry (at all) in court houses, public or private elementary middle, or high schools. No carry within 1000' of public elementary, middle, or high school property without a CHP.

No duty to inform LEOs unless CCing and asked.
1 handgun per month without CHP. Trades not included.
Open Carry required in restaurants that serve alcohol until next week.

Cost of CHP is $50 + whatever you pay for your class. As you are military you may already have something that will count.

[Jack]

Am i forgetting anything i need to know?

No carry (at all) in court houses, public or private elementary middle, or high schools. No carry within 1000' of public elementary, middle, or high school property without a CHP.

No duty to inform LEOs unless CCing and asked.
1 handgun per month without CHP. Trades not included.
Open Carry required in restaurants that serve alcohol until next week.

Cost of CHP is $50 + whatever you pay for your class. As you are military you may already have something that will count.

WOW.... I had no idea that virgina is an OPEN CARRY state?!?! So i can open carry with or without a CCW? Is CCW the same thing as CHP?

I really appreciate you guys answering all of my questions.... Nice to know virgina is a "friendly state"....I think ill like it there and look forward to shooting with you fellas...

[Jakeiscrazy]

WOW.... I had no idea that virgina is an OPEN CARRY state?!?!

Yep, no licensing require if your over 18. I don't think OCers have to many problems in VA, Northern VA could be a different story though.

[wally626]

WOW.... I had no idea that virgina is an OPEN CARRY state?!?! So i can open carry with or without a CCW? Is CCW the same thing as CHP?

In VA it is a CHP or Conceal Handgun Permit. It only pertains to handguns not other weapons. The way it is in the code it is not an exception to the concealed weapon statue but a separate thing. I have never heard of someone with a CHP being arrested for carrying a concealed knife, but it is theoretically possible.

If you carry a knife, the code is a little vague since it lists a bunch of knives, and other weapons then says weapons of like kind. Schools require blades to be under 3-inches for non-kitchen knives. Whether or not a knife is considered a weapon depends on the judge and jury.

[Diomed]

must all weapons be registered?

Only machineguns are registered with the state here.

The only firearms banned here are Streetsweepers, Striker-12s, and any semiauto shotgun that has a folding stock and a rotary drum holding twelve rounds.

WOW.... I had no idea that virgina is an OPEN CARRY state?!?! So i can open carry with or without a CCW? Is CCW the same thing as CHP?

Yes, you don't have to worry about printing or having your shirt ride up or any of that nonsense here.

I think you'll be subject to the one handgun per month limit until you get the Virginia permit, if I'm wrong someone here probably knows the deal.

As wally626 mentioned, no concealed weapons other than handguns.

[BluemontGlock]

Jack,
we look forward to having you join us in the commonwealth,
Please OC, CC,...whatever, just C...

and thank you for your service to our country!!

PS: they have imported the Fla humidity for your pleasure, it wil lbe waiting here for you when you arrive...

[Jack]

Can anyone tell me how T-MOBILE cell service works out there?

[Jakeiscrazy]

The only firearms banned here are Streetsweepers, Striker-12s, and any semiauto shotgun that has a folding stock and a rotary drum holding twelve rounds.

I didn't know that, you learn something new everyday!

[t33j]

Am i forgetting anything i need to know?

No carry (at all) in court houses, public or private elementary middle, or high schools. No carry within 1000' of public elementary, middle, or high school property without a CHP.

No duty to inform LEOs unless CCing and asked.
1 handgun per month without CHP. Trades not included.
Open Carry required in restaurants that serve alcohol until next week.

Cost of CHP is $50 + whatever you pay for your class. As you are military you may already have something that will count.

WOW.... I had no idea that virgina is an OPEN CARRY state?!?! So i can open carry with or without a CCW? Is CCW the same thing as CHP?

I really appreciate you guys answering all of my questions.... Nice to know virgina is a "friendly state"....I think ill like it there and look forward to shooting with you fellas...

Yes, VA is an OC state. It's the only way I carry. You might be interested in http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/

CHP = Concealed Handgun Permit - The permission slip you must get from the State government to legally conceal your gun off of your own property.
CCW = Carrying a Concealed Weapon, or sometimes concealed carry weapon - A gun

Sic Semper Tyrannis
P.S. @wally: I'm friends with a guy that had a Concealed Weapons Permit from Virginia Beach. That's what it said on the card anyway. That's not to say he has special privileges or anything... probably just a screw up on the wording by whoever made up the permit.

[rromeo]

I have a question regarding the one handgun per month rule. In California, that only concerns buying a handgun from a dealer's stock, not consignments or private sales. Is that also the case in Virginia?

[t33j]

I have a question regarding the one handgun per month rule. In California, that only concerns buying a handgun from a dealer's stock, not consignments or private sales. Is that also the case in Virginia?

P. Except as provided in subdivisions 1, 2, and 3 of this subsection, it shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed firearms dealer to purchase more than one handgun within any 30-day period. A violation of this subsection shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.

1. Purchases in excess of one handgun within a 30-day period may be made upon completion of an enhanced background check, as described herein, by special application to the Department of State Police listing the number and type of handguns to be purchased and transferred for lawful business or personal use, in a collector series, for collections, as a bulk purchase from estate sales and for similar purposes. Such applications shall be signed under oath by the applicant on forms provided by the Department of State Police, shall state the purpose for the purchase above the limit, and shall require satisfactory proof of residency and identity. Such application shall be in addition to the firearms sales report required by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF). The Superintendent of State Police shall promulgate regulations, pursuant to the Administrative Process Act (§ 2.2-4000 et seq.), for the implementation of an application process for purchases of handguns above the limit.

Upon being satisfied that these requirements have been met, the Department of State Police shall forthwith issue to the applicant a nontransferable certificate, which shall be valid for seven days from the date of issue. The certificate shall be surrendered to the dealer by the prospective purchaser prior to the consummation of such sale and shall be kept on file at the dealer's place of business for inspection as provided in § 54.1-4201 for a period of not less than two years. Upon request of any local law-enforcement agency, and pursuant to its regulations, the Department of State Police may certify such local law-enforcement agency to serve as its agent to receive applications and, upon authorization by the Department of State Police, issue certificates forthwith pursuant to this subsection. Applications and certificates issued under this subsection shall be maintained as records as provided in subdivision B 3. The Department of State Police shall make available to local law-enforcement agencies all records concerning certificates issued pursuant to this subsection and all records provided for in subdivision B 3.

2. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to:

a. A law-enforcement agency;

b. An agency duly authorized to perform law-enforcement duties;

c. State and local correctional facilities;

d. A private security company licensed to do business within the Commonwealth;

e. The purchase of antique firearms as herein defined;

f. A person whose handgun is stolen or irretrievably lost who deems it essential that such handgun be replaced immediately. Such person may purchase another handgun, even if the person has previously purchased a handgun within a 30-day period, provided (i) the person provides the firearms dealer with a copy of the official police report or a summary thereof, on forms provided by the Department of State Police, from the law-enforcement agency that took the report of the lost or stolen handgun; (ii) the official police report or summary thereof contains the name and address of the handgun owner, the description of the handgun, the location of the loss or theft, the date of the loss or theft, and the date the loss or theft was reported to the law-enforcement agency; and (iii) the date of the loss or theft as reflected on the official police report or summary thereof occurred within 30 days of the person's attempt to replace the handgun. The firearms dealer shall attach a copy of the official police report or summary thereof to the original copy of the Virginia firearms transaction report completed for the transaction and retain it for the period prescribed by the Department of State Police;

g. A person who trades in a handgun at the same time he makes a handgun purchase and as a part of the same transaction, provided that no more than one transaction of this nature is completed per day;

h. A person who holds a valid Virginia permit to carry a concealed handgun;

i. A person who purchases a handgun in a private sale. For purposes of this subdivision, a private sale means purchase from a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection of curios or relics as herein defined, or who sells all or part of such collection of curios and relics; or

j. A law-enforcement officer. For purposes of this subdivision, a law-enforcement officer means any employee of a police department or sheriff's office that is part of or administered by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof, and who is responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the enforcement of the penal, traffic or highway laws of the Commonwealth.

3. For the purposes of this subsection, "purchase" shall not include the exchange or replacement of a handgun by a seller for a handgun purchased from such seller by the same person seeking the exchange or replacement within the 30-day period immediately preceding the date of exchange or replacement.

Va. Code Ann. § 18.2-308.2:2(P)

[t33j]

CHP = Concealed Handgun Permit - The permission slip you must get from the State government to legally conceal your gun off of your own property. i.e. exercise a privilege, not a right.

...it was bugging me that I didn't elaborate on that a little more.

[gunderwood]

CHP = Concealed Handgun Permit - The permission slip you must get from the State government to legally conceal your gun off of your own property. i.e. exercise a privilege, not a right.

...it was bugging me that I didn't elaborate on that a little more.

Baby steps. The antis are much to shrill, have no shame when lying to "protect the children," and control too much of the media to just set things how they should be. Sad really; it just shows how far even a "friendly" state has fallen from the ideal.

[allingeneral]

Can anyone tell me how T-MOBILE cell service works out there?

I have Verizon and it has great coverage everywhere I go (including the Norfolk area). Not sure about T-Mobile in the Norfolk area, but I know that it's not so great where I am an hour North of Richmond.