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I am with SHMIV. Y'all vote for whomsoever you wish. You have to look yourself in the mirror and so do I.

If the BJ bit is worth getting McAwful, then you go right ahead.

I cannot vote for a person who is ok with the brutal premeditated slaughter of infants in any way. That is my first golden standard. My second golden standard is pro-second amendment. My third golden standard is that they must support the right of parents to educate their children as they see fit. The fellow does not pass those three he does not get my vote.

BJ's are way way down on my list of things I care about.

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Get real,she was/is 17,its not like she hadnt done it before
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Ya know, I was raised Catholic, but I was also raised an american. Im fine if you don't like gay people for whatever reason, but don't use the good book to try and back your ignorance. If you were a christian than you should have also learned compassion for fellow man and that the only one that should judge people is the man upstairs.

Sure, coming from the military, we make gay jokes and call each other fags, but at the end of the day, I really don't give a poop and don't understand why people do.

It is not my place to worry what two people do. This is also the same reason I support gay marriage and gays in the military. I actually knew two gay men in the military, and you would never know it. They were as good of soldiers as the straight guys. Nothing they do in their private life affects my private life, and with that, as an American, I support that

I have really lost respect for ken on several accounts. He's just like the rest of them.

In fact, I'm no longer supporting any candidate that takes a side on something that the government really has no business taking about.

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vaeevictiss wrote:Ya know, I was raised Catholic, but I was also raised an american. Im fine if you don't like gay people for whatever reason, but don't use the good book to try and back your ignorance. If you were a christian than you should have also learned compassion for fellow man and that the only one that should judge people is the man upstairs.

Sure, coming from the military, we make gay jokes and call each other fags, but at the end of the day, I really don't give a poop and don't understand why people do.

It is not my place to worry what two people do. This is also the same reason I support gay marriage and gays in the military. I actually knew two gay men in the military, and you would never know it. They were as good of soldiers as the straight guys. Nothing they do in their private life affects my private life, and with that, as an American, I support that

I have really lost respect for ken on several accounts. He's just like the rest of them.

In fact, I'm no longer supporting any candidate that takes a side on something that the government really has no business taking about.

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Funny, I thought it looked like someone making sure ALL their rights are protected.

Blue, red, screw the color. It's about rights.

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Vote Obama!!!!!!
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As for the Christian perspective we are rapidly creating a society that will prosecute us for saying that sin is sin. Scripture is clear...
1Jo 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

We are ALL sinners. We CAN be saved. Not by our acts but the redemptive act of our Savior.

I'll gladly sit beside someone in church at war with their OWN personal sin, even as I war with my own. I'll not berate them or pass judgement on the PERSON, That is to be left to God.

I am however imediately able mentally and physically to deal with any sinfull ACT that threatens me my family or society. THAT is the basis of our civil society.

The law has been explained at length here. Ken has the power to do certain things and not others. His stand to retain the law of the land to prosecute haneous crimes against our children is praise worthy even as he is aware that a ancient statute needs to be changed by our legislature as is the law of the land.

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There are several laws already in the books that pertain to sexual behavior. This law pertains to sexual offenders. Do you really think you'll go to jail if your GF gives you head? Jeez..... Pull y'all's head out of your butts.

I'd like to just point out that one of the reasons we are dealing with Obama for a 2nd term is because people are listening to the very liberals they claim to be against. Put your game face on, man the F up, and vote for someone who has a chance of winning or we will truly be a blue state. There are enough liberals against us already that are trying to take away our rights. Stop showing your bellys.....

Didn't you guys already learn the lesson from the last election we lost? Damn. Just damn.
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Who is being hateful to homosexuals? All I ever said was that I disagree with "Gay Marriage". Sure, I have a moral opposition, but my opposition is also liguistic. I disagree with "gay marriage" for the same reason I oppose a vegan egg salad sandwich.

I note that often, in todays society, "discernment" is often confused with "judgement".

On Sarvis, and the rights of EVERYONE, he is so very weak when it comes to the right to life in respect to the unborn, that I just cannot cast a vote for him. Actually, his stated stance on the matter is so vague that it's damn near Clintonian.

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scrubber3 wrote:There are several laws already in the books that pertain to sexual behavior. This law pertains to sexual offenders. Do you really think you'll go to jail if your GF gives you head? Jeez..... Pull y'all's head out of your butts.

I'd like to just point out that one of the reasons we are dealing with Obama for a 2nd term is because people are listening to the very liberals they claim to be against. Put your game face on, man the F up, and vote for someone who has a chance of winning or we will truly be a blue state. There are enough liberals against us already that are trying to take away our rights. Stop showing your bellys.....

Didn't you guys already learn the lesson from the last election we lost? Damn. Just damn.
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SilentServiceVet wrote:I guarantee they are not on the other side, on some Internet forum, saying they will "vote their conscience" or not vote for whichever Democrat wins the party support.
Traditionally the left is collectivist in nature, while the right tends towards individualism.

Quantity oft does trump quality and they think in terms of "we" while conservatives think of terms "me".
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Kreutz wrote:
SilentServiceVet wrote:I guarantee they are not on the other side, on some Internet forum, saying they will "vote their conscience" or not vote for whichever Democrat wins the party support.
Traditionally the left is collectivist in nature, while the right tends towards individualism.

Quantity oft does trump quality and they think in terms of "we" while conservatives think of terms "me".
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scrubber3 wrote:vote for someone who has a chance of winning or we will truly be a blue state.
It's more important to me to vote for the person who best reflects my view, not who has the best chance of winning.
scrubber3 wrote:Didn't you guys already learn the lesson from the last election we lost?
Maybe it's the R party that needs to learn the lesson, not the voters. That's the point of this thread.
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trailrunner wrote: Maybe it's the R party that needs to learn the lesson, not the voters. That's the point of this thread.
Actually, my OP was to point out the Pro 2nd A stances of Ken which are numerous I might add.

There's lots that is wrong with the GOP. I've been inside the party fighting for the last 4 years for more conservative platforms, and for candidates who are actually conservative and stick by what they say.

No one will ever match up with your personal view 100%. And, I fail to see how a supposed philosophy against BJ's ( and I mean supposed) trumps so many other issues.

Sarvis is Pro-BJ, that's great it, it really is. But, there is exactly 0% chance that he can do anything about it (disregarding the fact that none of the candidates could do anything on that subject at all because current law makes it illegal to outlaw it). So, it's a non issue, but please be pure.

If you actually want to make a real difference, get involved in the primary process across for the GOP. 3000 people picked my current Delegate candidate, he ousted a 20 year GOP incumbent who was a tax raising RINO by 500 votes. My vote and working for him mattered 2 months ago. 10,000 people across the state picked our Gov, LG, and AG nominees for the party at the RPV Convention. 3000 people who had never been involved in the party before mattered a heck of alot at that Convention. If you are involved, you are 1 in 10,000, not 1 in 3 or 4 Million.

I voted for Bob Barr in 2008 over McCain. Hated McCain, still do. But, voting for Bob Barr was like p*issing into the wind; it felt good, but all I got was a wet leg. Voting for Sarvis this November will only accomplish the same thing.

The GOP needs to change, but it takes good people who are willing to roll up their sleeves and do the hard work for that to happen.
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Well that's what the democraps and lame stream media keep telling us. I dunoo...
Maybe it'll not lead you down the path to more Obummer THIS TIME!

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I agree Nova.


Your BJ and azzplay are safe in YOUR OWN HOME! Seems some need a permission slip from our State government not to fall for the left's slime machine.
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It's amazing how many people haven't actually read the text of the law and make incorrect statements about who can't be prosecuted under it.

As for your statement, ratherfish; a law stating that something is illegal is totally different. Remember, the criminal code is a list of "don't" and not "permission slips".

I hope you never have to worry about divorce proceedings. A disgruntled soon-to-be-ex wife could make the claim, say you participated, and that class 6 felony means you could be saying bye bye to your CHP.
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SpanishInquisition wrote:It's amazing how many people haven't actually read the text of the law and make incorrect statements about who can't be prosecuted under it.
SI,

I've read the law.

The Supreme Court decision in 2003 specifically overturned the VA law (and similar laws in 13 states) making it so that NO consenting adult can be prosecuted. To state any different is to mus-construe reality.
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NovaHunter wrote:
SpanishInquisition wrote:It's amazing how many people haven't actually read the text of the law and make incorrect statements about who can't be prosecuted under it.
SI,

I've read the law.

The Supreme Court decision in 2003 specifically overturned the VA law (and similar laws in 13 states) making it so that NO consenting adult can be prosecuted. To state any different is to mus-construe reality.
Exactly what the democraps are pushing for.


DON'T FALL FOR IT AGAIN! PLEASE!
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NovaHunter wrote: The Supreme Court decision in 2003 specifically overturned the VA law (and similar laws in 13 states) making it so that NO consenting adult can be prosecuted. To state any different is to mus-construe reality.

...and in 2004, Cuch had the chance to refine this law so that it wouldn't apply to mom and pop in their own bedroom. ...but he didn't. He opposed those changes in committee, he opposed those changes on the floor. Instead, he let his "every sperm is sacred" catholic mindset overrule your right to those activities with your spouse. This is the crux of the issue. Between his actions as a state legislator and now as AG, he's worked to keep an unconstitutional law on the books. There's more to it than the 2012 stuff, so stop holding that Supreme Court ruling up as a shield against Cuccinelli's actions.

Government has no right to restrict our ability to defend ourselves, nor does it have the right to tell us what we can and cannot do in the privacy of our own homes. Both Cuccinelli AND McAuliff have track records including things I vehemently oppose.

I've voted Republican in every election since Reagan, having good faith that I would be represented moderately well if not perfectly. This time, I simply cannot. The cons of both major party candidates simply cross them off my list of viable candidates for the position.

Therefore, Sarvis. I'm not thrilled by his stance on marijuana, but I'll take that over the restrictions on your and my freedoms that the other two candidates represent.
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