Our Amassador was killed!!!

[Kreutz]

Derp the Tv said the Libyan rebels are duh good guys tahts why we bommed t bad man Gadhafi derp derp derp.

Meddling in foreign nations only seems to yield bad results for the US.

[scott9050]

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo at first issued a statement saying, in part, that it condemns "the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09 ... z26Gh3aLTF

[thekinetic]

We should bring an old friend out of retirement just for them, napalm.

Make them burn!

[SpanishInquisition]

Let me get this straight. The administration is appologizing to a mob of religious extremist terrorist assholes because they attacked our embassies and killed 4 Americans including the Ambassador over a youtube video on the anniversary of the September 11th attacks?

[Jakeiscrazy]

Looks like their sending in the Marines.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/marines-libya/

[mamabearCali]

50 whole marines.......nice.......so how many rocket launchers do you think it would take for the rebels to take them out too. I hope they are going with some serious stuff to handle mobs.

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[mamabearCali]

It occurs to me that the time to send those marines in was a week ago. Our ambassador was killed...all that I see as being left to do is to evacuate the embassy. Perhaps the marines can help with that.

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[SpanishInquisition]

US Embassies used to have standing Marine Detachments. What happened?

[mamabearCali]

I thought so too! Would be interesting to know when that ended.

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[skeeterss0]

Marines still guard the embassies as far as I know. But they are most likely under orders not to shoot unless personnel are endangered. It's useless to try to fight the mob, a lot of wasted rounds while the enemy gets riled up and brings in the big guns. The fast team heading to the embassy is to coordinate evacuation of the remaining US citizens. Once the citizens are evacuated (they are probably in a safe room in the embassy) then and only then will retaliation take place. But then again once the crowd disperses how do you know who did it? I'm sure the CIA is working on that already.

Personnally I say make the whole middle east a glass parkinglot. Let the radiation cloud float over China and we have pretty much of the problem areas cleansed..... but then what do i know, i'm just an old retired jar head.

[OakRidgeStars]

It's deja vu all over again. Remember this image from the U.S. embassy in Tehran in 1979?



Now we have this:


What's that old saying about those who ignore history? Remember in November.

[TacticalMom]

I understand where you are coming from Shotgunblast. However, I believe Mamabearcali really just wants a better response the oh shucks that sucks. The president should get mad and start asking some hard hitting questions. He should show the world or anyone that would want to harm one of ours that we are not just going to roll over and take it in the ass after they dick slapped us. Now does that mean we need to bomb them into oblivion, that is up for debate... however we do need to respond with requiring a real inquiry, and finding those that are accountable for such a horrible event. We need to see that some one is willing to stick up for Us as a country, and in my opinion it should be the POTUS.

My two cents... for what it is worth.

That's cool.

1. Both Obama and Clinton gave statements condemning the attack, which is generally what is used for media soundbytes. I don't see anyone offering sympathy to the murderers. Here's the transcript.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501708_162- ... consulate/

2. You and I don't know what's going on at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, what questions are being asked, or how angry the POTUS is.

3. By comparison, what did Bush say after such a horrible act drove planes into buildings on our soil and killed over 3000 people that showed the world we are not just going to roll over and take it in the ass after they dick slapped us? Um, pretty general statements that the media also used for soundbytes.





So here's a guy that acts calm and gives general statements condemning the attack, but we know now what kind of intelligence gathering and strategizing was going on in the background. Time will tell if Obama does the same thing. But to fly off and say he's limp-wristing this so soon after it happened is crazy.

Ok Shotgunblast. I am all for polite discourse about events and differing opinions. I am your huckleberry. I will address your points, and your inflammatory comment.

I tried to express the fact that I understand where you are coming from and give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you were not trying to attack mambearCali, maybe you are just as passionate about the issue as she is. If that is the case sometimes when your passions are strong you have a hard time maybe taming the words that you say. Now I am thinking maybe you want a fight since you think that we may be "fly off and say he is limp-wristing this so soon after it happened is crazy". (note: for those of you reading along... this is the chance that a person gives to another person to back out and inform them yeah it was a miss understanding and that sometimes written words do not come across as intended. Wouldn't it be great to have these kinds of foot notes everyday in our lives? )

"1. Both Obama and Clinton gave statements condemning the attack, which is generally what is used for media soundbytes. I don't see anyone offering sympathy to the murderers. Here's the transcript.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501708_162- ... consulate/"

I understand that polititicians generally make general statements. This is for varying reasons. I think we are all adult enough to know what they are, money, politics, money, politics, money money money, also not wanting to go into a premature war. *snicker* What some people are saying, is that this appologizing for something that other people are doing (e.g. making a movie of their own free will and accord) should not me apologized for. We are a free people. We are supposed to be able to say and do what we like. Hell do we go and shoot the families of people that tore down and burned our flag in Egypt just this week... or better yet in this example do we go and kill and murder the families of thier ambasadors to our country? Do we do that because a bunch of angry people burned and disrepsected our flag. I guarrantee you they are not the only ones. If it is ok for them is it ok for us? I want him to stop Apologizing, like he is embarrassed about us. He needs to have emotion for the people that have been killed and then on the other hand not apologize for something that someone did or is doing based on their freedom of speech.

"2. You and I don't know what's going on at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, what questions are being asked, or how angry the POTUS is."

You are dam skippy we don't know. I believe in some transparancy, and some need to know basis. There is never going to be a time where it will be appropriate to have all transparent or nothing transparent. I am not asking that the Prestident tell us what he is doing in information gathering. What I would like to see is some emotion, in the regard of ours being killed because some one esle dissagrees with something some one is doing in our country. This was an easy target that those murderers could get to, so they took the chance. To be clear I do not believe we need to police the world, however, if some one is in the country on what we believe to be peacefull work, and they are killed by some scumbag, that scumbag should be dealt with. In my opion, he should publicly call out the Lybian government or what is left of it, and call them to step up and bring justice to those that harmed ours. According to our POTUS he "strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens." He needs to be saddened, he needs to show some emotion to let us know at least superficially he cares. I strongly condem my children when the hit each other. It does not make me sad that they fight sometimes, it is a part of life... I am saddened when innocent people are murderd.

"3. By comparison, what did Bush say after such a horrible act drove planes into buildings on our soil and killed over 3000 people that showed the world we are not just going to roll over and take it in the ass after they dick slapped us? Um, pretty general statements that the media also used for soundbytes."

Yes he POTUS Bush was able to rally people and tell them that they were going to do what they could to find the perps. I don't care what you believe on 9/11... if you think it was conspiracy or if you think it was delt by terroists. I will not discuss what/who I believe to be the culprit. That is not what we are discussing here. We are talking about how the POTUS comes across to media and the rest of the world. Does he want to side with the Muslims of the world? Is it ok cause he is mabye/kinda Muslim for other Muslims to harm a by all accounts so far a peace worker? Even if he is not, that is the image that is comming across. Is it ok for people to think that the President would not stick up (due to politcal or power gain) for them and theirs if they were attacked by another people. Hell I don't care who it is... if you kill an inocent in cold blood you are a scumbag. Now if it comes across that that particular person was responsible for or involved in a mass genocide, or even the murder of babies, and mothers, then we can revist. However, currently with the information we have we know he (the ambasador we are talking about) was there as a peace worker.

"So here's a guy that acts calm and gives general statements condemning the attack, but we know now what kind of intelligence gathering and strategizing was going on in the background. Time will tell if Obama does the same thing. But to fly off and say he's limp-wristing this so soon after it happened is crazy."

Again back to your "fly off" comment. I don't think people are flying off anything. The general population is not happy with his work the last 4 years. His popularity poll ratings the lowest of all the POTUS. If you believe the polling done. He has not impressed the majority of the populous and it would behoove him to show he is a strong figure that is willing to go to the mat for our people. Instead of as some one else said ahead of me, appologizing to the Muslim world for our wrong doings. Is anyone over there appologizing for burning our flag. I don't think so. Would it be ok to them for us to burn their flag, or burn their holy books?

My Opinion I repeat My Opinion, we need to pull out of Lybia, and everywhere else. Stop giving aid, stop inserting ourselves in other countries, and work on our own country. We need to fix the home front before we can help others.
(note: another life footnote, I in no way said anything inflamitory. I asked questions, and am still trying to make this civil. We shall see how this turns out. )

[SHMIV]

I can come up with a quick, easy 4 step strategy:

1. Remove all Americans from Libya, no ifs, ands or buts, including all reporters. Have every idiot that chooses to stay sign a statement acknowledging the danger and their full acceptance of responsibility for their actions. We didn't leave them to die, they chose to stay.

2. Stop all aid from U.S. both governmental and from various aid organizations, no Americans will set foot across the borders of Libya, no aid will either.

4. Deport all Libyans here on student visas, guest workers, etc.. The only Libyans allowed to stay are the ones that have already applied for asylum.

4. Mark the Embassy compound as U.S. property, enter at risk of death. Wait and watch the U.S. Embassy, Once the party has started and they start to loot and vandalize the embassy, they will probably even try to burn it down at some point, turn the embassy into a crater. Drop a lot of leaflets stating any attempted construction on the Embassy site will meet the same fate.

What most Americans don't understand about the Muslim mentality is:
There will be no peace as long as they hate Americans and Israelis more than they love their children.

I like this strategy.

[donut]

Just a quick update from the other side of the globe. I just got off the phone with a friend in Egypt and apparently he was in the vicinity of the Embassy in Cairo, he said the local police had totally vacated their positions and he didn't see one of them. He also said he had never seen so many black flags either.On Libya, this came through my inbox from another mutual friend on that side of the globe.

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As you may have heard there was quite a violent and to be frank barbaric attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi last night. In this attack Ambassador Stevens was killed.

Ambassador Stevens, aside from being a truly down to earth, fantastic and great person, he was also someone who strongly believed in Libya and was proud to be part of our transition. As I have seen from many of you he has supported and pushed you personally to continue to fight for rule of law and democracy.

There will be a stand of solidarity and support in both Tripoli (Algeria Square) & Benghazi (Shajara Square) today at 5:00 p.m. Please wear blue or white.
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I doubt it would see much coverage but it seems that many people are cognizant a good man lost his life to a angry mob. I too want to see some heads on spikes but let it be the heads of the guilty.

[SHMIV]

I believe in some transparancy, and some need to know basis. There is never going to be a time where it will be appropriate to have all transparent or nothing transparent. I am not asking that the President tell us what he is doing in information gathering. What I would like to see is some emotion, in the regard of ours being killed because some one else disagrees with something some one is doing in our country.

Here, we actually DO have a little transparency, even if it is only because of recent historical events. Remember how Obama responded to Ft. Hood? Expect more of the same.

At this point, even if he does respond a little more forcefully, it'll be because of upcoming elections.

[skeeterss0]

yes awfully convienent there is an election coming up...Obama will sink or swim on how he responds.

[Reverenddel]

I have no words.

Just tired of the long legged liar in chief wet noodling all his responses to make sure he doesn't offend anyone.

Someone asked "Do you feel safer with Obama in the White House?" that was the article three days ago...

I would say "NO"!

He let the military do their thing unfettered because he was scared of looking weak. This proves he IS weak!

[bdog308]

Picture of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens To Libya being Paraded Dead

The did not just go in a kill people in the embassy, they took out Stevens body and paraded it around, dragging him through the streets.

Here's the link with pics if anyone wasn't outraged enough.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c9e_1347458606

[dorminWS]

Picture of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens To Libya being Paraded Dead

The did not just go in a kill people in the embassy, they took out Stevens body and paraded it around, dragging him through the streets.

Here's the link with pics if anyone wasn't outraged enough.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c9e_1347458606

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is there ANYBODY out there NOW who STILL hesitates to kill those FU*KING ANIMALS? Or for that matter, anyone who walks in their tracks?

[ShotgunBlast]

Picture of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens To Libya being Paraded Dead

The did not just go in a kill people in the embassy, they took out Stevens body and paraded it around, dragging him through the streets.

Here's the link with pics if anyone wasn't outraged enough.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c9e_1347458606

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is there ANYBODY out there NOW who STILL hesitates to kill those FU*KING ANIMALS? Or for that matter, anyone who walks in their tracks?

I'm not standing in the way. It's good to have more information on the incident.