VA-ALERT: Breaking: Attorney General Opinion on UVA Gun Ban

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Tue, July 5, 2011 5:02:03 PMVA-ALERT: Breaking: Attorney General Opinion on UVA Gun Ban!

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1. Attorney General says UVA gun ban isn't worth the paper it is written on for visiting CHP holders, only somewhat for visiting open carriers
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1. Attorney General says UVA gun ban isn't worth the paper it is written on for visiting CHP holders, only somewhat for visiting open carriers
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Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R) has just released an opinion requested by Senator Emmett Hanger which says that the University of Virginia's campus gun ban **policy** isn't worth the paper it is written on for CHP holders. Cuccinelli said that they can restrict open carriers from certain buildings based on simple trespass law, but NOT CHP holders. He also said that a campus-wide ban is simply a non-starter, even for open carriers.

However, students, faculty and staff can still be controlled by the school's policy, allowing them to be expelled or fired, respectively for breaking the policy.

This is exactly how VCDL's Corporate Attorney, Richard Gardiner, had read the recent Supreme Court ruling when it was released on "DiGiacinto v. Rector and Visitors of George Mason University."

For a school like UVA to be able to ban guns in their buildings like GMU does, they would need to go through the complete administrative process to get a regulation added to the Virginia Administration Code. That would require public hearings.

If such a thing is done by any university or college, VCDL needs to have its members show up en mass to indicate our opposition to any such regulation.

Thanks to VCDL EM Hal Macklin for finding the breaking story.

Here is a link to the opinion in PDF format:

http://tinyurl.com/3jqr2t7

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Here is a link to a story on the opinion:

From Virginia Lawyers Weekly: http://tinyurl.com/3z9sh6x

UVa gun policy does not govern those with carry permits, AG says

July 5th, 2011

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says the no-guns-on-campus policy at the University of Virginia lacks the legal authority to overcome the gun-carrying rights of citizens with concealed weapons permits.

In a July 1 opinion letter, Cuccinelli draws a distinction between a George Mason University regulation banning guns in school buildings and the U.Va. policy prohibiting guns on school property. The GMU regulation was upheld by the Supreme Court of Virginia this year, but Cuccinelli notes the U.Va. ban is a mere policy and not a regulation.

“[A] regulation has the force of law, whereas a policy does not,” Cuccinelli wrote. Accordingly, he said, the statute allowing individuals with permits to carry concealed weapons trumps the school gun policy.

While disclaiming any expression of opinion about the wisdom of campus gun bans, Cuccinelli nevertheless offers a taste of his personal outlook: “It certainly can be argued that such policies are ineffectual because persons who wish to perpetrate violence will ignore them, and that the net effect of such policies is to leave defenseless the law-abiding citizens who follow these policies,” he wrote.

In April, Cuccinelli released an official opinion that “personal safety” would justify carrying a gun to a place of worship under a law banning guns in church “without good and sufficient reason.”

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Some excellent analysis here by VCDL EM John Pierce, who is currently a law student:

http://monachuslex.com/?p=100

Virginia AG Cuccinelli Says Carry Permits Trump UVA ‘No-Guns’ Policy

Posted on July 5, 2011 by John Pierce

In response to an inquiry by Senator Emmett W. Hanger, Jr. (R – District 24), on July 1st Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli issued an opinion addressing the constitutionality and validity of a University of Virginia policy banning the “possession, storage or use of any firearm, weapon, ammunition, or explosives within any University facility by anyone, except a law enforcement officer, without the prior written permission of the University’s Chief of Police.”

In the opinion, Attorney General Cuccinelli distinguished his analysis between the constitutional right to open carry and the statutory privilege granted by a concealed handgun permit.

As might be expected, much of the opinion was concerned with analogizing to DiGiacinto v. Rector and Visitors of George Mason University. In DiGiacinto, decided January 13th of this year, the Virginia Supreme Court held that George Mason University’s regulation banning firearms in university buildings was constitutional.

However, the key distinction between the regulation at issue in DiGiacinto and UVA’s policy is a matter of administrative law. In Virginia, regulations are promulgated via the due process protections in Virginia’s Administrative Process Act, and when properly promulgated have the force and effect of law. Policies on the other hand do not have the force of law nor can they survive a direct conflict with a regulation or a statute.

In DiGiacinto, the regulation, having been properly promulgated and having the full force and effect of law, triggered the prohibition in 18.2-308(o):

[t]he granting of a concealed handgun permit shall not thereby authorize the possession of any handgun or other weapon on property or in places where such possession is otherwise prohibited by law[.]

However, the UVA policy, not having the force and effect of law, does not trigger any statutory prohibition. Failing such a finding, it is to be assumed that the General Assembly intended the privilege granted by the concealed handgun permit to supersede any such policy.

As Attorney General Cuccinelli noted, ”[t]he clear intent of the General Assembly is to allow concealed handgun permit holders to carry handguns only in areas where it has not specifically prohibited the carrying of handguns.”

Disappointingly, the opinion simultaneously held that such a policy, developed subject to the powers statutorily granted to UVA to formulate such policies, and sufficiently narrowly tailored, would prohibit the open carry of firearms, even by permit holders, subjecting offenders to possible trespassing charges.

It is interesting to note that Attorney General Cuccinelli, who was criticized by some for his office’s defense of GMU in DiGiacinto, took the opportunity to make a pro-gun editorial comment in the UVA opinion.

“It certainly can be argued that such policies are ineffectual because persons who wish to perpetrate violence will ignore them, and that the net effect of such policies is to leave defenseless the law-abiding citizens who follow these policies. The task at hand, however, is not to evaluate the desirability of such policies. Instead, the role of the Office is to assess the lawfulness of these policies in light of the law as it presently exists in Virginia.”

The lesson to be taken from both DiGiacinto and this opinion is that preemption needs to be expanded to cover agency action. I expect that this will be a continuing goal of the Virginia Citizens Defense League in 2012.


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