Why do some cartridges have a two part numbering system, eg. ,30-06, .38-40, .30-30 Winchester, etc?
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Rifle cartridge question
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Rifle cartridge question
The short answer is because that's what they wanted to call it.
There is some historical precedent from the black powder days. E.g. .45-70 was .45 caliber and 70gr of black powder. There also was a .45-90 and .45-120, but with modern powders the .45-70 has plenty of capacity which IMHO is why it is the most popular of the breed.
30-06 was .30 caliber and adopted in 1906. On and on. Why do we call some engines by their liter capacity and other by cubic inches...because we can.
There is some historical precedent from the black powder days. E.g. .45-70 was .45 caliber and 70gr of black powder. There also was a .45-90 and .45-120, but with modern powders the .45-70 has plenty of capacity which IMHO is why it is the most popular of the breed.
30-06 was .30 caliber and adopted in 1906. On and on. Why do we call some engines by their liter capacity and other by cubic inches...because we can.
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Re: Rifle cartridge question
+1 for on and on!
It's really interesting how the different families of cartridges evolved...
A 30-06 necked down to .25 becomes a 25-06. Neck a .308 down to 7mm, and get a 7mm-08, a little smaller and it's just a .243.
It's also cool how different cartridges perform so much better than others. For instance the little 25-20, necked down from the 32-20 pistol cartridge, can't hold a candle to the ballistics of the .22 Hornet, though looking at them side by side one might think the 25-20 packed more wallop... and on and on.
Get you a couple of reloading manuals, they look great in the basement and on the coffee table
It's really interesting how the different families of cartridges evolved...
A 30-06 necked down to .25 becomes a 25-06. Neck a .308 down to 7mm, and get a 7mm-08, a little smaller and it's just a .243.
It's also cool how different cartridges perform so much better than others. For instance the little 25-20, necked down from the 32-20 pistol cartridge, can't hold a candle to the ballistics of the .22 Hornet, though looking at them side by side one might think the 25-20 packed more wallop... and on and on.
Get you a couple of reloading manuals, they look great in the basement and on the coffee table

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Re: Rifle cartridge question
I was thinking of getting a reloading manual. I plan to get into reloading some day but I am fascinated by the ballistics aspect and trying to get a deeper understanding of loads.
If you had to get one manual, which would it be?
Thanks.
If you had to get one manual, which would it be?
Thanks.
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Re: Rifle cartridge question
You cant get just one manual, not if you plan on reloading. But the best one for starting out is the ABC's of Reloading.
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Re: Rifle cartridge question
+1gregj wrote:You cant get just one manual, not if you plan on reloading.
At least have a manual for the bullet brands you shoot (if available). Most of the name brand books do a pretty good job of explaining things.
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Re: Rifle cartridge question
Nope, one manual isn't good enough. Get more than one. With that, I'd say Lyman's 49th Edition is a pretty good one to have. I use it and Lee's "Modern Reloading", and both of these manuals are again checked against the data from the powder manufacturers' Web sites.
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