NPR story on girl hunter generates outrage

[Mindflayer]

Via @nprnews: Girls Hunt Too -- And Story About That Ignites Debate | http://t.co/YhffLui

Good read. I gather some folks don't realize the meat on their table - hell, the vegetables on their table in many cases - is farmed and processed by less humane methods for animal and human alike in many cases.

[gunderwood]

Good for her.

[Vahunter]

My oldest daughter deer hunts. She might weigh 110 pounds soaking wet and uses a .30-06 for hunting.

[gunderwood]

My oldest daughter deer hunts. She might weigh 110 pounds soaking wet and uses a .30-06 for hunting.

Technique is important. Most firearms have "too much" recoil if you have poor technique.


As a side note, it really is amazing how tolerant the average NPR listener is.

[Kreutz]

As a side note, it really is amazing how tolerant the average NPR listener is.

About as tolerant as the average Limbaugh listener, coincidentally enough.

[CCFan]

As a side note, it really is amazing how deaf the average NPR listener is.

There. Fixed it for you. (To borrow one of your lines!)

[bobingersoll]

I didn't hear the story so I can't comment on it, but I am a regular daily listener to NPR, and an owner of several guns...and an animal lover.

I don't hunt. I have no problem with people hunting and I have had deer and antelope meat several times. I guess if I could get past the ides of the risk of only wounding the deer and having it run off and suffer, I would probably hunt also. I am torn.
I guess if it was a necessity for my survival, I would be out in the fields with my orange hat on.

So, that leads to my feelings of hypocrisy because I love to eat meat and eat dead cows all the time, cows that are treated badly and killed by other people. I know I should "man-up" (or "girl-up") and go get my own meat.

Anyway, not all of us average NPR listeners are deaf or intolerant.

[ainokea]

This is the same NPR that salivated over American military deaths and selectively edited audio clips to make Donald Rumsfeld sound bloodthirsty. And the audience lapped that up without care! What can you expect from people who can stand listening to Diane Rehm?

[gunderwood]

As a side note, it really is amazing how tolerant the average NPR listener is.

About as tolerant as the average Limbaugh listener, coincidentally enough.

What does that have to do with this thread other than your bias?

I made that specific comment because it was relevant to the thread. I.e. NPR story about hunting gets listeners angry who seem like they are always promoting their cultural superiority because they listen to NPR, which is "unbiased" and tolerant of other cultures.

[Kreutz]

As a side note, it really is amazing how tolerant the average NPR listener is.

About as tolerant as the average Limbaugh listener, coincidentally enough.

What does that have to do with this thread other than your bias?

Ah, you can only point out bias on the left, forgot that.

[gunderwood]

Ah, you can only point out bias on the left, forgot that.

No, you are once again ignoring the whole point...par for the course.

I never said Limbaugh is unbiased, I said he has nothing to do with this thread except to show your bias and bigotry towards his listeners (of which I am not). This thread is about NPR and its listeners intolerant response towards a girl and her hunting trip.

I presume that the Limbaugh remark is because you have no valid counter argument, but wish to derail the thread.

[gunderwood]

I didn't hear the story so I can't comment on it, but I am a regular daily listener to NPR, and an owner of several guns...and an animal lover.

The link has it for you to listen.

I don't hunt. I have no problem with people hunting and I have had deer and antelope meat several times. I guess if I could get past the ides of the risk of only wounding the deer and having it run off and suffer, I would probably hunt also. I am torn.

Hunting requires good shooting, but also wise judgment and knowing your limits. If you can't be certain of making that shot, don't take it.

I guess if it was a necessity for my survival, I would be out in the fields with my orange hat on.

The problem with this is that it is a skill. If wait until you need the skill to live, you are in trouble...just like a person who owns a gun for when they need it, but never learns to shoot it well.

So, that leads to my feelings of hypocrisy because I love to eat meat and eat dead cows all the time, cows that are treated badly and killed by other people. I know I should "man-up" (or "girl-up") and go get my own meat.

Hunting is fun, but it also is a lot of work. I don't think it is hypocrisy to not like hunting, but like meat. IMHO, it would only be hypocrisy if you didn't want others to hunt or considered it wrong for them to do so or if you refused to eat hunted meat simply because it was hunted.

Anyway, not all of us average NPR listeners are deaf or intolerant.

All? No, but clearly from the comments there are quite a few. I suspect it is mostly due to the politics and culture of the average NPR listener.

The intolerant aspect of the responses is not that NPR listeners don't like hunting. Tolerance doesn't require that they agree with it or like it in any way. Tolerance requires that they not be insulting just because they disagree, that's bigotry. A tolerant, but negative comment would read something like this:

"I don't agree with hunting <insert rational or unsubstantiated opinion here...even it if is 10 pages long>, but I respect this girls right to do so. I don't understand it or agree, but I won't stop her from hunting."

[wylde007]

The problem with this is that it is a skill. If wait until you need the skill to live, you are in trouble...just like a person who owns a gun for when they need it, but never learns to shoot it well.

When a time of crisis is upon you, the time for preparation has expired.

[Palladin]

The problem with this is that it is a skill. If wait until you need the skill to live, you are in trouble...just like a person who owns a gun for when they need it, but never learns to shoot it well.

When a time of crisis is upon you, the time for preparation has expired.

Amen - (and God bless Scouting)

[Taggure]

I don't hunt. I have no problem with people hunting and I have had deer and antelope meat several times. I guess if I could get past the ides of the risk of only wounding the deer and having it run off and suffer, I would probably hunt also. I am torn.
I guess if it was a necessity for my survival, I would be out in the fields with my orange hat on.

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Hey you know a good Hunter spends many an hour just walking through the woods and learning the patterns of the animals as well as many hours on the range with their weapon. Most of the hunters today like this young girl have learned the skills needed to hunt from the parents and grandparents; I know I have and I have passed those skills on to my son.
That does not mean that you can’t start learning how to hunt now, what with the internet and all the books out about hunting. Education is a great thing and it is something that once you have no one can take it from you and you can pass your knowledge down to your children. If you are interested in learning just ask questions and I am sure that folks here can point you in the right direction.

You know what the Indians called a bad hunter right?

A Vegetarian

[SgtBill]

My daughter with her first Deer that she harvested last year at my place. A 9 point that she got with my .270 Browning A-Bolt at about 170 yard's.
Bill

[Taggure]

That is what we are talking about! Good on her

[gunderwood]

My daughter with her first Deer that she harvested last year at my place. A 9 point that she got with my .270 Browning A-Bolt at about 170 yard's.
Bill

Wearing Daddy's old winter BDUs?

[newdovo]

I listen to public radio most days. NPR news during morning and afternoon commute, sometimes classical music (local programming) during the day, and some of the weekend programs like Car Talk and Prarie Home Companion. I'm probably not the typical public radio listener (too conservative, etc.), but NPR does keep me informed on national and world events.
I would have been excited if I had heard the story when it was first broadcast. There is a liberal slant to much of what NPR broadcasts, especially some of the softer news stories; some stuff is just hard news, and then the occasional public interest story like this one. This actually gives me a little hope that there is a wee bit of balance, even if the scale is tipping to the left.
BTW, I don't feel like my week is complete if I haven't gotten steamed about something that was said/reported during the week. Every time I hear Cokie speak, at some point I'm shouting at the radio. It's as good as any workout... meet my target heart rate, sweat a little, might get winded.
But listen on, I do...


Parry

[Mindflayer]

I believe you should listen to the right and to the left. I do not listen to many of the talking heads, though, since they are merely entertainers and demagogues. Once Americans pull their collective heads out of the rear ends of these bloviating spokesmen and spokeswomen for advertising sales, then we will all be in a better place. Open discourse with an open mind will make America stronger. Anyone that thinks they have all the answers is just an arrogant fool.

<phew, back sorta on topic>

What is it about women with guns? Sorry for the below the waist thinking, but it seems men secure in themselves find women that can handle a gun properly and with expertise very attractive. Insecure men - from the stereotypical machismo to the cultural "elite" - seem to think women are too delicate or can't stand a woman that shoots better.

I know, not really on topic but the thought popped into my head.