Official VGOF Second Amendment March Thread

[SnakeEater]

DIGG This Post!!

Do any of you plan to participate? Maybe we could go as a group or as a sub group to VCDL. What do you guys and gals think?
http://secondamendmentmarch.com/

Added by Allingeneral - If you are interested in any updates to this thread, please click the "Subscribe" link near the thread title. You will be emailed any time there is a new post to the thread.

Will

[VBshooter]

I'm up for it definitley!!!

[allingeneral]

I have been in contact with the folks at SecondAmendmentMarch.com and we actually have a link on their website at http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/links.htm

Would someone like to volunteer to be the "VGOF Second Amendment March Coordinator"? Responsibilities include:

- Coordinate VGOF Second Amendment March participation
- Keep the forum apprised of updates to the effort by posting information
- Other responsibilities as determined during the evolution of the position
- (Possibly coordinate a Town Hall meeting?)

[SnakeEater]

I have been in contact with the folks at SecondAmendmentMarch.com and we actually have a link on their website at http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/links.htm

Would someone like to volunteer to be the "VGOF Second Amendment March Coordinator"? Responsibilities include:

- Coordinate VGOF Second Amendment March participation
- Keep the forum apprised of updates to the effort by posting information
- Other responsibilities as determined during the evolution of the position
- (Possibly coordinate a Town Hall meeting?)

Yeah Ifound the link after my post. I will do it if you would like. I have already signed up for the e-mail updates and can e-mail them to let them know of our status as well.

Will

[Dragonfly]

You would need to charter a Bus, that would up the participation numbers for DC or organize a march in Richmond.

[allingeneral]

SnakeEater - I'll be in contact soon regarding the way ahead with this. In the meantime, I have renamed this thread and it is now the official VGOF Second Amendment March thread. Feel free to post here as you deem necessary, but let's discuss before going outside the forum with anything.

Good thoughts Dragonfly. Richmond is awfully close to DC...might be worth organizing a big meeting point in Richmond and getting several buses together for the run up to DC. Sounds expensive though... if we decide to go that big, we would need to start some sort of fundraising.

[SnakeEater]

SnakeEater - I'll be in contact soon regarding the way ahead with this. In the meantime, I have renamed this thread and it is now the official VGOF Second Amendment March thread. Feel free to post here as you deem necessary, but let's discuss before going outside the forum with anything.

Good thoughts Dragonfly. Richmond is awfully close to DC...might be worth organizing a big meeting point in Richmond and getting several buses together for the run up to DC. Sounds expensive though... if we decide to go that big, we would need to start some sort of fundraising.

I think if we do anything in Richmond we should do it in the morning and take the busses to DC in the after noon or quite possible that we may have to do Richmond on another day. Like I said in my OP maybe we could go in half with VCDL? We could maybe make up some t-shirts or stickers pertaining to 2A. and sell them from the forum.

We will get it worked out. BTW I have sent you a PM

[SnakeEater]

Hey all some new news

Paperwork has been submitted to the park service in D.C. to reserve the date for the march. We have requested April 19, 2010.

This was posted on the 2A march site it says 4 days ago. I will keep in better contact in the future. Thanks

Will

[SnakeEater]

Allingeneral have you signed us up as a group on the 2A March website I understand we are listed.

Will

[allingeneral]

Allingeneral have you signed us up as a group on the 2A March website

I just signed us up. I checked the box indicating that we may be interested in sponsoring a charter bus. I'll post information here as I get it.

Thanks for your update SnakeEater. Your assistance is appreciated!

[SnakeEater]

No problem just doin my job

did you get my PM?

[allingeneral]

PM received and replied. Thanks!

[NavArch]

SnakeEater,

I plan on being at the DC march in 2010. I live in Bristow, so my personal travel and lodging is taken care of. I can take care of my own logistics for a Richmond march, if one is organized. My point is that, for planning purposes, there are probably a lot of people in my situation. I do think that Virginia-logo T-shirts would be cool. Maybe something that aligns us with a Virginia founding father.

[Richard Henry Lee - To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms.]

or maybe something as simple as [It’s not called the “Bill of Privileges”] or [Civil Rights start with the Right of Self-Defense]

Alan

[allingeneral]

NavArch, Thanks for your input. Stay tuned for more info!

[SnakeEater]

Leyla Myers
is the coordinator for the Virginia State Capitol March. Leyla offers a firsthand account of what a country without freedom is like. Please see her article in this newsletter.

Leyla Myers
(804) 450 6045
leyla.myers@secondamendmentmarch.com


Thanks Vince and Leyla, and welcome aboard!

Growing Up Without Guns

While growing up, I knew there were guns and other arms, because the army and police had them. Us, ordinary people didn't need them. The saying was "my police protect me". I don't think I ever saw a gun except in movies or those carried by police on the streets. Some people in remote mountain villages had small rifles and a limited amount of ammunition - mainly to shoot predator animals to protect their farm animals. At 13, police were going door to door at night, pointing guns at my family and other neighbors. Later I witnessed how government ordered army and tanks to the streets of my city under the cover of the night, killing dozens of innocent people. Not a very good experience to base your opinion about guns.

When I came to America, I was prepared to see the abundance and wealth, and knew I would need to learn lots of things. As an immigrant, I looked into various laws - those that applied to immigration, employment, and travel. I never looked into the laws about guns. There was not a single "drawer" in my brain dedicated to firearms; the only knowledge I had was "guns are bad." In 2002 there was a sniper on the streets of Virginia, but I never thought about how I could protect myself. I was simply glad the sniper was not frequenting my area, and I stayed home.

In all my searches for good shopping stores, I never even considered that ... gun stores exist. No one tells you that at the border control at the airport, and unless I came across someone who took the time to talk and explain the facts to me, I still would never have thought any different. I give full credit for my re-education to my husband (boyfriend at that time) who was the first person I would hear to frequently use words, "the Constitution actually says ...", "the local rules do not require you to...", "have you read Common Sense?" These were very different conversations from the ones I had at work or with my girlfriends.

So my message to you is this - if you let any society grow accustomed to seeing guns as only for use by police or criminals, if you let just two generations to go on like that, you will eventually have a society in which I grew up. It is a strange feeling when, while carrying open in Virginia, I have to tell people, "no, I am not a law enforcement officer, and do not intend to impersonate one, I am just exercising my right. You have one, too, you know?" Sometimes this makes me want to double check if I am in America.

If you haven't figured it out yet, - I was born in the Soviet Union. It was the largest prison in the world, where the prisoners were either unaware that they were prisoners, or were deeply aware of it and therefore were eliminated by the government.

I have lived in this country for eight years and I am just coming to a point where I can't imagine not having a Second Amendment as the norm. It takes time to turn your whole knowledge and vision of life up-side-down, to pretty much throw away the morals you grew up on. I just finished reading 1984 by George Orwell. We would never be allowed to read this book in the Soviet Union. But when I was done reading it, I knew that for over 20 years, I had lived the life of "the next generation after Winston Smith" - the generation that did not know that a human is capable to think and to reason. And the Soviet government did not have to torture me to get me to that stage - I was already born in a thought-vacuum my ancestors allowed to be established.

I always point out that Soviet schools had very strong curriculum, especially in math and history. But we never heard Patrick Henry's "Give me liberty or give me death" speech; history books never mentioned Jefferson's proposed language for the Virginia Constitution - "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." We were slaves, no doubt. Worst yet, we were dead in a sense that we could not live out our lives how we wanted.

Most people at least once in their life said or heard someone say, "I wish I could bring my childhood back." I might have said it too. Not now, not anymore. The Second Amendment to me, then, is one guarantee that my past will never become my future.

~ Leyla Myers

About author: Leyla Myers was born in Azerbaijan Republic, former Soviet Union. She came to the States in May 2001 on an employment visa. She currently lives with her husband in Virginia.

Will

[OakRidgeStars]

Anyone who can read Leyla's story and not appreciate the rights and liberties that we were born with in this country needs to read her story again. That's why this is the greatest country in the world.

[zephyp]

I'm in Alexandria if we need a base camp for anybody. I dont have much room, but we can make do if need be.

[Sweetpea]

I'd like to go to this too. I am also in Alexandria and can help out logistically if needed. Would it be helpful to take the Metro into town instead of busses?

[NickFac]

Going to put in my request for vacation from work here shortly. Wanna make sure I have the time off set so no one else takes it

If anyone wants to work out some where to stay in DC or anything like that let me know and we can work something out. I'm in VA beach so i'm going to be doing a bit of traveling.

[CCFan]

I'd like to go as well - I'm in Roanoke so I'm gonna subscribe to this post to keep updated. Work schedule and logistics will play a part, but the DC march is something I think is pretty important...