When Your Own Propaganda Turns Against You

[gunderwood]

At the Independence Day, Barack Hussein Obama used the opportunity to bash the Founding Fathers of these United States of America. The exact words he used were these:

“. . . the principles that are timeless; tenets first declared by men of property and wealth, but which gave rise to what Lincoln called, ‘a new birth of freedom in America,’ civil rights and voting rights, workers’ rights and women’s rights, and the rights of every American.”

To have Obama talk about civil rights and workers’ rights, of course, is ridiculous. Under Stalin and Mao – two of Obama’s political heroes – tens of millions of workers were murdered, jailed, or tortured for even the slightest expression of discontent with the conditions of work. To have Obama – who promotes Islam at every possible opportunity – talk about voting rights and women’s rights is ridiculous. Under modern Muslim governments women have no rights, and especially when it comes to voting rights.

But more important is the use of the word “but”: The tenets were first declared by men of property and wealth, BUT . . . they gave rise to the new birth of freedom. In other words, the tenets of the Founding Fathers can not be trusted, because the Founding Fathers were “men of property and wealth.” But . . . they gave rise to the new birth of freedom nevertheless.

In other words, what Obama is trying to do is to create a moral separation between the tenets declared by the Founding Fathers and the birth of freedom in America. The moral separation is based on the Marxist notion of economic classes. Men of property and wealth simply can’t have anything to do with freedom and rights. The tenets of the Founding Fathers were not a birth of liberty themselves, they only gave rise to a “new birth of freedom”; and even that was an anomaly which deserves the qualifier “but” that Obama put in the statement.

Of course, such talk is self-defeating given the fact that Obama himself, and most of his financial supporters and political supporters are “men of property and wealth.” Harry Reid, Nancy (Marxy) Pelosi, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Joe Biden – no one could claim these men and women have any “worker’s background” or that they are not “men of property and wealth.” Obama himself is not exactly among the poorest members of our society. Obama’s attempt to throw the blame of cynicism on the Founding Fathers will only backfire on his gang of Marxist-Communist conspirators, as it does already. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword, and he who lives by slandering the Founders of cynicism shall himself be found guilty of cynicism.

Obama’s talk is morally outrageous. But it is also a statement of weakness. By bashing the Founding Fathers and their principles, Obama in fact admits his defeat in the ideological battle of the last two years. After the American Left realized that a Great Awakening is under way, that the American people are increasingly aware of their heritage and of the views of the Founders, a number of socialists tried to rally the Founding Fathers to their side. No less a prominent socialist than Marxy Pelosi tried to convince the American public that Obamacare is in the tradition of the irrevocable rights to life, liberty and pursuit to happiness given to us by our Creator, as the Declaration of Independence states.

And indeed, in terms of propaganda, the ability to rally the Founding Fathers to one’s cause could be of a great advantage. America has always been proud of her heritage, and the world has admired America for her heritage. This was true when most Americans had forgotten what the Founding Fathers stood for; how much more true it is today when so many Americans are awakening and demanding the restoration of America as she was founded? Anyone who can claim ideological descent from the Founding Fathers already has the upper hand in the debate, and the socialists understand this very well; a socialist is a cynic by ideology, he doesn’t care for the true value of things but he certainly does care for the propaganda value of them. So the Democrats and other socialists and Marxists did try their best to jump on the wagon of the growing awakening of the ideas of the Founding Fathers and claim them on their side.

Such claims did not achieve their goal. The voters for the Democrat Party don’t give a penny for the Founding Fathers in general; and those of the voters who believe in the ideas of the Founding Fathers, give even less for the Democrat Party. Rallying the Founding Fathers to Leftist causes was an empty exercise, just as empty as rallying St. Augustine to support Buddhism. The Democrats suffered another blow in the ideological battle in America.

Therefore Obama decided to bash the Founding Fathers. The logic is simple: If you can’t rally them to your side, slander them. Separate the Founders from America which they have founded. Portray them as cynical, hypocritical, greedy bunch of people who only inadvertently started something that led to liberty. Cut America from her heritage; make her hate her Founders. Only then could a radical Marxist-Muslim agenda be forced on the American public.

What Obama doesn’t understand is that there are more ideological defeats to follow. The failure to invoke the Founding Fathers to his agenda is not a simple misfortune. For the last 100 years American socialists have worked tirelessly to destroy the moral meaning of language, thinking that in such a way they could destroy America’s Christian foundations. Language has become to them a propaganda tool, not a means for conveying moral truths. It has become so twisted in their mouths that words have no meaning anymore, when spoken by socialists.

And herein lies the liberals’ problem, one that they encounter more and more these days: When words lack moral meaning, they become unpredictable. When all that matters is how words will manipulate other people’s minds, eventually words backfire on the manipulators themselves. The efforts to bring degeneration and destruction to the American mind eventually lead to degeneration and destruction in the minds of the liberals themselves. Aspiring to be the masters of propaganda and mind-manipulation through destruction of moral meaning, they increasingly find themselves unable to relate to language, and unable to predict the outcome of their own words.

The deterioration in the level of intelligence among liberals – even among their leading figures – is obvious, and it is a predictable consequence of their own ideology. Intelligence is a gift from God but like every gift of God it degenerates if not used according to His sovereign moral purposes. For several generations American liberals have done everything they could not only to deny God’s sovereign purposes for language, but to twist language to such an extent as to define it out of meaning, and out of existence. In their rebellion against God, men of superior intellect foolishly sought for ways to redefine words, phrases, meanings to mean whatever the current Propagandist-in-Chief wants them to mean. But God is not mocked, and His plan is certainly not thwarted by the feeble attempts of men.

The modern generation of leftists pays the price for the sins of their ideological fathers and teachers. More and more, their own words testify against them; their own concepts become a snare for them; their own ideology turns against them. Their media lose influence, their politicians put their feet in their own mouths, and their propaganda tactics only create more resentment, ridicule, and distrust among the voters. The era of total leftist propaganda is over, and not even the public schools can make it return.

True American patriots must learn from that. We should not fall prey to the same temptation, to speak “morally neutral” words. As the example of our leftists shows, the lie of “moral neutrality” destroys all meaning in language, destroys mind and intellect, and turns its adherents into helpless fools. America can be restored and rebuilt only on the moral foundation of the Christian religion, as our Founders envisioned. Outside of that moral foundation we will become like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the other fools: Unable to find meaning in anything, unable to have any starting point, powerless to restore America. There is no neutral ground for political action – and those who believe in neutral ground will meet defeat.

[VBshooter]

I pretty much don't listen to a thing he says, I don't respect him or his politics. He has no respect for this country or the people in it, he continually lies and attempts to BS his way through things assuming IMHO that people are stupid... And personally I think he sucks as an orator, Boring as hell and predictable as a repetitive song.

[Taggure]

I pretty much don't listen to a thing he says, I don't respect him or his politics. He hs no respect for this country or the people in it, he continually lies and attempts to BS his way through things assuming IMHO tha tpeople are stupid... And personally I think he sucks as an orator, Boring as hell and repititous a crappy song.

+1
Come on Don't hold back; tell us all how you really feel so that we all can understand your thoughts about our incompetent, Lying, Traitorous so called President/Commander - N - Chief.

[KaosDad]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06006.html

Looks like his own party is starting to turn against him. House Dems are feeling "...like they've been hung out to dry..."

November should be great fun.

[gunderwood]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06006.html

Looks like his own party is starting to turn against him. House Dems are feeling "...like they've been hung out to dry..."

November should be great fun.

Na, this is a common political tactic. They are trying to distance themselves from the president without actually doing so. They are hoping the voters forget that they pushed this with Obama. It isn't that they really disagree with him, but they are hoping that people will accept that it was some boogieman that did those bad things and not them.

They just have to look like they aren't in bed with Obama. Reality means nothing if they can get enough votes.

When we were calling, writing and meeting with them, I don't seem to recall any of them saying they were just doing the presidents bidding...they were ignoring us and doing this for our own good.

[VBshooter]

They still seem to think they can fool people with tricks like this one. Freaking amazing how dumb they think people are. It hasn't set in their little liberal adled brains that they are in for a butt kicking in November and people are really sick and tired of them and their crap. Far too many folks are genuinely PO'd to let any distraction sway their feelings or change their minds.

[gunderwood]

They still seem to think they can fool people with tricks like this one. Freaking amazing how dumb they think people are. It hasn't set in their little liberal adled brains that they are in for a butt kicking in November and people are really sick and tired of them and their crap. Far too many folks are genuinely PO'd to let any distraction sway their feelings or change their minds.

Ya, it's like they turned their Obama t-shirts inside out and think no one noticed.

[smltooner]

They still seem to think they can fool people with tricks like this one. Freaking amazing how dumb they think people are. It hasn't set in their little liberal adled brains that they are in for a butt kicking in November and people are really sick and tired of them and their crap. Far too many folks are genuinely PO'd to let any distraction sway their feelings or change their minds.

AMEN

[Diomed]

Freaking amazing how dumb they think people are.

Well... they do keep getting reelected, don't they?

[zephyp]

Freaking amazing how dumb they think people are.

Well... they do keep getting reelected, don't they?

Yeah, but you gotta figure based on the bell curve that at least half the country is of average intelligence or less. Plus you have some to the right (above average intelligence) who simply vote left.

[GS78]

Obama is making the same mistakes that Lincoln and Kennedy made.


They both accepted advise from incompetant advisors and screwed both their enemies and their friends, leaving them vulnerable.

[VBshooter]

Far too many "smart" people underestimated Obama and others chances of election . Many figured a black man couldn't get elected and not liking McCain didn;t vote. WHa the hell was hte Republican Party thinking??? And yes a lot of them keep getting reelected and it is stupid people that keep relecting them. Hopefully they will have smartened up or at least the opposition gets their act together, gets off their collective ass and votes them out,,,A lot of these career politicians need to be shown the door and the new ones made and held to be accountable for their actions.

[gunderwood]

Far too many "smart" people underestimated Obama and others chances of election . Many figured a black man couldn't get elected and not liking McCain didn;t vote. WHa the hell was hte Republican Party thinking??? And yes a lot of them keep getting reelected and it is stupid people that keep relecting them. Hopefully they will have smartened up or at least the opposition gets their act together, gets off their collective ass and votes them out,,,A lot of these career politicians need to be shown the door and the new ones made and held to be accountable for their actions.

The Republican party was thinking: Florida. That is when McCain starting doing well and the media, correctly assumed the rest of the country wouldn't vote for McCain, so they ran stories about how he was the the middle of the road Republican, no Democrat can beat him, etc. As soon as he secured the nominate, they turned on him. I dare say the media did as much for McCain during his primary bid as they did for Obama during the election.

[VBshooter]

No doubt the media did their part to him while promoting Obama as the greatest show on earth, They also failed to show all the nice little skeletons in the closet and things that were wrong with Obama while Fox News made it a point to broadcast it. Obama was the media darling and he was going to be elevated to God like status simply for being the first black presidential candidate to win the nomination. Didn;t matter one iota that he was a far left leaning nutless radical that didn't have a clue. THey were going to promote him till it hurt , and it did the entire damn country... McCain was beat from day one and his campaign was as lackluster as I have ever seen. Now Let;s see considering the choices;;;; a younger dynamic black man spouting "change" or a dried up old fart with as much pizazz as a toadstool spouting nothing. He didnt stand a chance.

[chfaunce]

McCain sank his own battleship when he announced Palin as his running mate. People such as myself (the center right, as I've heard myself described) had actually been taking him seriously up until this point. I know this (his selection) was a thinly veiled attempt to attract the disaffected Hillary supporters, but his selection showed a gross lack of sound judgement. I don't think he could have selected a more underqualified candidate - I have yet to hear her put together a single, complete, coherent sentence, and when asked on at least four (4) separate occasions, she could not accurately describe the role of the Vice President. So, we ended up one lousy choice versus another. Crap in, crap out. Unfortunately, "none of the above" was not an option on my ballot.

McCain's time has come and gone - it's unfortunate that he was not in office between 2000 and 2008.

The great news is that the Republicans (always look on the bright side!), and truly moderate conservatives have an extraordinary opportunity here to win back the Congressional majority and improve their ranks among center-oriented and independent voters such as myself, but there's not a day that goes by where I don't see them throwing that away. It's a shame. Let's just hope that they don't come up with a Palin / Limbaugh ticket.

And no, the media is of no help. Then again, neither are voters who vote solely along party lines (or skin color) without any understanding of the issues, or understanding where their candidates stand on those issues. Basically, we have a lot of people who have no idea what they're talking about 100% of the time and who rely mainly on the CNN / Fox / MSNBC (etc) talking heads to provide them with their 'opinions'.

[VBshooter]

All true and should include the fact that RINO's need to go too.Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, John McCain. Lindsey Graham and a score of others need to start their resume for a new job somewhere other than DC,These guys play the people for chumps while conducting the same old BS politics. As noted the candidates will have to show proof that they are for the Constitution and smaller government and that a return to the basic values that made this country is their end goal. We need to let them all know that WE THE PEOPLE Are back in charge and that they work for us.The current group of disrespecters need to be replaced at every opportunity.

[chfaunce]

I'd just settle for honesty, regardless of what they stand for. I mean, they're entitled to their beliefs / values as we're all entitled to ours. That said, we're entitled to vote for those that most closely align with our beliefs, and to vote those out which do not. As of late, honesty seems to be something of a rarity. The old joke, "How can you tell if a politician is lying?" isn't really a joke anymore. It's the truth! There ought to be a Lemon Law for politicians.

I would really like to have an election campaign someday where I can honestly say to my wife, or friends, or coworkers, "Wow, what a great candidate! I'm really excited to see someone running who has so many great ideas and a real plan to move the country forward!", rather than, *facepalm* "Oh, no, not this sh*t again." And no, "Hope and change!" does not constitute a "plan".

I'd also really like to see a Congressional approval rating above 30%. Otherwise, I say we pay them 30% of their salaries.

Further, I'm for mandating that people be able to pass an IQ test before being allowed to vote. Again, back to that understanding the issues bit. I watched Idiocracy again a few weeks back, and I cringe to think that we really, really are heading in that direction.

[gunderwood]

I'd just settle for honesty, regardless of what they stand for. I mean, they're entitled to their beliefs / values as we're all entitled to ours. That said, we're entitled to vote for those that most closely align with our beliefs, and to vote those out which do not. As of late, honesty seems to be something of a rarity. The old joke, "How can you tell if a politician is lying?" isn't really a joke anymore. It's the truth! There ought to be a Lemon Law for politicians...

Further, I'm for mandating that people be able to pass an IQ test before being allowed to vote. Again, back to that understanding the issues bit. I watched Idiocracy again a few weeks back, and I cringe to think that we really, really are heading in that direction.

I'll take honest and liberty loving. The second part is important as an honest statist is still a statist. We can debate the best way to reduce <insert huge bureaucracy here> most effectively, but to get my vote we have to agree that things have gotten to big and are out of control.

Realistically, we are a democracy now and we can't go back. That is unfortunate because democracy's are historically unstable. People think of the old voting restrictions as "unfair," but they did have a purpose under a Republic. Namely, that only those with a stake in the system voted. It was much harder to play class warfare because if you weren't going to pay the bill, you weren't voting. Today everyone gets to vote even if they don't pay taxes, collect social welfare checks, etc. Of course they vote to "tax the rich" or for more benefits, etc. They have nothing to lose by doing so. The middle class hate it because they are footing most of the bill because the "rich" are rich enough to "hide" their money or get loopholes built into the law for them.

[VBshooter]

THe middle class has always shouldered the burden more so than others,, Sheer numbers make them easy pray, Hopefully enough of them have had enough nonsense form their elected and are well prepared to get out and do what ever it takes to get the job done to remove the bad and install some new life into the system

[chfaunce]

Namely, that only those with a stake in the system voted. It was much harder to play class warfare because if you weren't going to pay the bill, you weren't voting. Today everyone gets to vote even if they don't pay taxes, collect social welfare checks, etc. Of course they vote to "tax the rich" or for more benefits, etc. They have nothing to lose by doing so.

THIS.

Though, there is nothing inherently wrong with democracy. However, the question really is: do we give everyone an equal say, or should those with more to risk be afforded a louder voice? We have not chosen the latter. So, it's not really democracy that has failed us, it is more our implementation of democracy I believe.