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Hi Everyone,
I have a Utah nonresident permit but I plan to move to northern Virginia, near Alexandria, in August. Could I continue to use the Utah permit if I plan to get a VA driver's license and take up residency in VA, or do I need to get a VA permit? I think it would be strange for a VA resident to use a UT permit to CCW in VA. At least it might make any police officer suspicious.
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Nope not strange at all. I would just be sure to update your address with the Utah issuing Agency (I believe BCIS is the name). A lot of people have the Utah Non-Resident permit since it is recognized by so many states. There are some perks though to the VA resident permit like being able to purchase multiple handguns in a single month. And remember the Federal Gun Free School zone rule of 1000 feet. The exemption is for firearm permits issued by the state the school resides in. While I have not heard of this law being enforced before, I would not want to be the first trial case personally.
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One issue with the VA permit is that your name is on "the list" which gets published from time to time in a local news paper.

But... if you do not have one then you run the risk of being (illegally) detained by an officer who is unaware of the reciprical rules, this might be far fetched but possible. If you had a VA permit in addition you would clear up this ambiguity.

I believe there is a 30 day period during which you cannot purchase a gun, I am not sure if this extends to applying for a permit. Your application time is 45 days.
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learn2shoot wrote: I believe there is a 30 day period during which you cannot purchase a gun

Cite please?

I am aware of the 30 day period between handgun purchases without a Virginia concealed firearms permit. But I have not seen any law stating that you have to be a resident for 30 days before purchasing firearms. As long as the purchaser can show proof of residency, they should have no problem with purchasing a firearm.
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I believe totes is correct. I dont think anything is required other than proof of residency and that isnt required for a long gun - only hand guns...

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totes6 wrote:But I have not seen any law stating that you have to be a resident for 30 days before purchasing firearms. As long as the purchaser can show proof of residency, they should have no problem with purchasing a firearm.
Well, there is the requirement that the photo ID be at least thirty days old in order for it to be used for a firearms transaction. Maybe he was thinking of that?
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@Diomed - you are indeed correct however the code says "when the ID...contains a date of issue" but I'm also not aware of any acceptable ID that does not. The point is that to my knowledge there is nothing that specifically states in the gun code how long you have to live here to be a resident. Nor can I find anything elsewhere in the code that stipulates length of stay before becoming a resident. The 30 days is inferred but not specifically stated. And I believe that it is relatively universal for non-residents to purchase most long guns as long as their home state laws are followed.

The other point I was attempting to make, which perhaps I should have avoided, is that Learntoshoot presenting himself as an instructor for permits should be more specific when citing gun law.

@Learntoshoot - not trying to be critical but rather helpful and would like to see your business succeed...I know from personal experience that its tough out there.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... .2-308.2C2

§ 18.2-308.2:2.B.1 -- When the photo-identification presented to a dealer by the prospective purchaser is a driver's license or other photo-identification issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles, and such identification form contains a date of issue, the dealer shall not, except for a renewed driver's license or other photo-identification issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles, sell or otherwise transfer a firearm to the prospective purchaser until 30 days after the date of issue of an original or duplicate driver's license unless the prospective purchaser also presents a copy of his Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles driver's record showing that the original date of issue of the driver's license was more than 30 days prior to the attempted purchase.
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