The list of ANTI-CARRY EATERIES begins

[DWinter]

Well folks,
Today starts our legal carry in restaraunts in Virginia and I suggest we get a list started of "anti" establishments who are making a big deal of this. This morning on the news, Keegans Irish Pub's have anounced their policy remains No Guns except police officers. They also own Finn McCools. I tried to send them an email via their website but didn't find contact info. Just figured I fill everyone in on their policy as they will no long get any business from me. Please add to the list as you all see fit.

1. Keegans
2. Fin McCools

[ProShooter]

Last year after the VCDL rally in Innsbrook, about 15 of us openly carried in Finn McCool's and not a word was said.

[OakRidgeStars]

I predict that with the current tough economy, this is going to be a short list. Most retailers are going to continue with business as usual when it comes to customers with firearms.

And remember, never tell a retailer that they should "put a no guns sign at the door" if you are asked to leave their establishment. No sign means carry is permitted unless you are told differently by management or security personnel.

We as gun owners can just take our business elsewhere. There is no shortage of small businesses out there that will welcome us with open arms (pun intended) and open cash registers.

[LFS]

It seems pretty stupid that a restaurant or any other establishment would make a big deal about this. They are just asking for people not to do business with them.

[ZeSpectre]

Dave's Taverna (Harrisonburg) - http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/40510082.html
Joshua Wilton House (Harrisonburg)


Remember folks, if you have a place (like Dave's) that doesn't want your business, send them a letter explaining why you will no longer do business with them and also attach a photocopy of some receipts from restaurants you ARE going to so they can see the money they are losing.

I've actually had places reverse themselves when 20-30 people send in "receipt" letters and the business suddenly realized just how much it's losing.

[Everett113]

Just to let you know.
All Macado's are gun unfriendly. My wife and I when ther all the time when we were dating. When I started carring on a regular basis I found out how anti gun they really are. I have not been back since. Another one over here in Roanoke is Carrabba's at vally view mall. I do respect there freedom off choice to not allow firearms in there places of buisness and it is my freedom of choice not to eat at there restaurant.

[KaosDad]

Over on OCDO there's a guy named Ed - I know him, you know him, he's been on national TV talking about open carry. Anyway he uses these guys: http://www.amazingmail.com/default.aspx to send post cards to gun unfriendly corproate HQs. They can be totally customized as such: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showt ... ost1292138

He sent a beauty to Fuddruckers - on the front was his "look at the business you lost" message on the back was a group photo of an OCDO/VCDL carry dinner - about 50 folks.

I have no idea of the cost.

[DWinter]

I hope this is a short list. I know that most of the places we go will not make a big deal over it, but the one's who do will be passed up. Actually our favorite place here at the beach, The Surf Rider, is owner by a former LEO, Stanley Bennett, and having known him for years, I don't see having to change that one.

[Reverenddel]

I know for a fact that the Buffalo Wild Wings on Broadstreet by Hungry Springs Rd is venomously anti-gun... Too many confrontations to list. Both personal, and associates.

It might not be ALL BW3's, but Hooters on Broad never had a problem with my open carrying. Plus? Attractive ladies!

[Tweaker]

All BW3 are anti gun. It is Korporate Diktat!

Funk them and their scrawny overpriced chitlins.

[wylde007]

Tautog's & Doc Taylor's on 23rd Street in VA Beach - not posted but I have been asked (told) by the owner that he doesn't want carry in his restaurant.

So I don't go.

Secrets on Diamond Springs - not posted but asked to leave.

Granted, both of these venues I was OC... but I have a fundamental problem supporting a business that doesn't support our rights. If they want to exercise their "right" to be selective about it, then so shall I.

As I have explained to several people, there are plenty of restaurants out there which have exemplary service and outstanding food where I am already welcomed as a customer. Those proprietors deserve my business because they have earned it by focusing on the quality of their food and their service, instead of irrational and unqualified fears.

[Runcible]

There's a bartender in Richmond who blogs, and he wrote this: http://jackgoesforth.blogspot.com/2010/ ... cohol.html

We went back and forth a bit on Twitter, and so then I wrote this:
http://richmondguns.com/story/richmond- ... s-unhinged

He now tweets that he bought a gun today, I guess to mollify all the people he pissed off but I certainly can't say for sure.

He works at various watering holes in RVA.

[allingeneral]

There's a bartender in Richmond who blogs, and he wrote this: http://jackgoesforth.blogspot.com/2010/ ... cohol.html

We went back and forth a bit on Twitter, and so then I wrote this:
http://richmondguns.com/story/richmond- ... s-unhinged

He now tweets that he bought a gun today, I guess to mollify all the people he pissed off but I certainly can't say for sure.

He works at various watering holes in RVA.

Runcible - I'm glad you wrote that story at richmondguns.com. That JackGoesForth guy is a real piece of work. Why does he think he can toss the F-bomb around and get any respect at all? Who knows...

[Runcible]

Runcible - I'm glad you wrote that story at richmondguns.com. That JackGoesForth guy is a real piece of work. Why does he think he can toss the F-bomb around and get any respect at all? Who knows...

Thanks.

He's an amiable clown, most of the time. I know people who know him, and they complain about his excesses, but he's usually fun and clever. This one I couldn't let go. Congenital screw-ups like Jack can be fun to have around, but I just couldn't believe the guy had the audacity to look down his nose at people who are choosing a very disciplined, responsible course of action.

For me, carrying a concealed weapon is something I do to keep my family safe, and I have a routine I go through every day. Based on his blog, Jack's only routine is to snort ground-up Adderall and bang drunk chicks. Color me unimpressed.

[fireman836]

Runcible - I'm glad you wrote that story at richmondguns.com. That JackGoesForth guy is a real piece of work. Why does he think he can toss the F-bomb around and get any respect at all? Who knows...

Thanks.

He's an amiable clown, most of the time. I know people who know him, and they complain about his excesses, but he's usually fun and clever. This one I couldn't let go. Congenital screw-ups like Jack can be fun to have around, but I just couldn't believe the guy had the audacity to look down his nose at people who are choosing a very disciplined, responsible course of action.

For me, carrying a concealed weapon is something I do to keep my family safe, and I have a routine I go through every day. Based on his blog, Jack's only routine is to snort ground-up Adderall and bang drunk chicks. Color me unimpressed.

He's a young jerk that one day is going to let his mouth write a check his butt can't cash. He'll atemp that threat to the wrong person and find himself face down in the street before he knows what hit him. Maybe he also needs to learn he works in a restaurant that sells alcohol for on site consumption.

I also assume he doesn't own the restaurants he works for. If he worked for me he would be out on his can just for the comment, I don't need the liability. And his stupity could cost me my restaurant.

[Runcible]

I also assume he doesn't own the restaurants he works for.

I think you can safely assume that he's at least 10 years away from having the maturity required to own or operate a successful restaurant.

[DWinter]

This Jack fellow's eloquent writing skills are only exceeded by his ignorance. IMHO a person who cannot strongly emphasize his point without swearing and making threats, whether written or spoken, loses all credibility with me. And I'm sure he values my opinion about as much as I value his. Probably some loudmouth bully who, when confronted, will run crying like a little girl.

[allingeneral]

I don't know why I bother talking to people like that. All they want to do is degrade people, curse and throw a fit when things don't go their way.

Intelligent conversation, I like. Cursing, degradation and personal attacks, I don't much care for.

So, back to our regularly scheduled thread here. The list of anti-gun wacko's who own restaurants.

[zephyp]

What I dont understand is all this diatribe about bars and drinking. The "there are no bars in VA" argument aside all I want to do is CC and eat a meal without having to worry whether or not they serve alcohol and if I'm legal. End of discussion...

[Runcible]

I'm not sure if restaurant owners realize the extent to which a "No Guns" policy could affect their lunchtime business. In the past I avoided restaurants that served alcohol when I could - I'd go to Qdoba over Chipotle, as an example - but most often I'd lock up my pistol in a desk drawer or in the glove compartment of my car.

I never liked removing my firearm in a car or in the office - it's not as safe and it's not as discreet - and I don't intend to do that anymore. I'm going to familiarize myself with restaurants that post "No Guns" policies on their storefronts and I'm just not going to eat there.

And if I'm not going to eat there, that means that the 1 to 4 other people with me usually aren't going to eat there, either.