new york car bomb

[GS78]

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/H ... /story.csp



the "bomb" was made of "consumer grade gunpowder", according to bloomberg, "the kind used in fireworks that you can buy in Pennsylvania and drive into New York."


.....I guess mikey has found a new target.

[totes6]

Ok time for your

Considering that you can spend 5 minutes online and get better instructions on explosives than what was described in the article. And that it took NYPD almost 12 hours to clear it out.

Now add to it, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told a news conference that "we have no idea who did this or why." How could that be? They have cameras on every street corner. Is Bloomberg saying that they didn't even get a single photo of this person that drove this vehicle? I highly doubt the car drove itself.


So somehow in this situation I am adding 2+2 but I am getting 5

[zephyp]

And, secretary nepolatino whatever her name is has already labeled this as terrorism...she also said it was an amateurish attempt...I also read someone was seen running from the scene...so let me get this straight...a muslim tries to blow up a plane full of Americans and they cant/wont/dont call it terrorism yet when something like this happens - obviously domestic - they immediately label it terrorism...

[GS78]

anyone want to bet that the "bad guy" ends up being a tea party type?

[gunderwood]

The antis have been trying to years to get reloading banned. Serial numbers on bullets, smokeless powder as an explosive (its flammable, not an explosive), restricting primers, you name it. They will use this to justify restricting reloading activity. No question about it.

Who builds a car bomb and then leaves the engine running and the flashers on...its almost like they wanted it to be found.

[zephyp]

anyone want to bet that the "bad guy" ends up being a tea party type?

Gee, what an intuitive leap...get real. Whatever gives you this idea...

[gunderwood]

anyone want to bet that the "bad guy" ends up being a tea party type?

Even if there is no connection, the media will use statements like: "expressed anger at the government, like the TEA party...", "suspect fits the demographics of TEA party members...", "blames President Obama for X, just like the TEA party..." They won't lie for say, but they will definitely pre-bias the debate with misleading statements.

[GS78]

anyone want to bet that the "bad guy" ends up being a tea party type?

Gee, what an intuitive leap...get real. Whatever gives you this idea...

Its too convenient. A car bomb that smolders long enough to attract attention but doesn't go boom?.....all the recent chatter about timothy McVeigh and the comparisons between the tea party "extremists" and the Oklahoma city Bomber . A truck bomb (and a crude one placed by an idiot) remember the tea party extremists have been painted as idiots by the media ...... all I'm saying is that it won't surprise me if it is reported this way whether they find who did it or not. It was only a day ago that Obama himself said that " this kind of speech(anti-obama speech) will only encourage extremists to commit violent attacks..... it all fits to neatly....

[zephyp]

anyone want to bet that the "bad guy" ends up being a tea party type?

Gee, what an intuitive leap...get real. Whatever gives you this idea...

Its too convenient. A car bomb that smolders long enough to attract attention but doesn't go boom?.....all the recent chatter about timothy McVeigh and the comparisons between the tea party "extremists" and the Oklahoma city Bomber . A truck bomb (and a crude one placed by an idiot) remember the tea party extremists have been painted as idiots by the media ...... all I'm saying is that it won't surprise me if it is reported this way whether they find who did it or not. It was only a day ago that Obama himself said that " this kind of speech(anti-obama speech) will only encourage extremists to commit violent attacks..... it all fits to neatly....

I was being sarcastic...and I agree...somewhere an MSNBC anchor is preparing the story...

Keith Olberman Show -- Yesterday a Tea Bagger attempted to blow up Times Square with a car bomb. But like the shoe bomber, he lit the fuse, ran, and nothing happened. Are all of these people stupid or what. My guess is that he lived in a trailer park and his parents were closely related...I strongly recommend that law enforcement look for anyone driving a run down pick up truck named Bubba...

[GS78]

yeah, thats pretty much it. I heard on FOXNEWS that some pakistani terror cell is claiming responsibility, that would make sense and make it extremely difficult to find the driver........almost every yellow cab driver in the city is from pakistan.

[zephyp]

I doubt very seriously this was any terror cell other than some lame brained far out domestic extremist who knew absolutely nothing about bomb making...terror cells are well funded and trained...I think in the least they dont run from the scene...

[OakRidgeStars]

Guess who stepped up and claimed responsibility for the failed car bomb?.

http://townhall.com/news/world/2010/05/ ... c_car_bomb

[Taggure]

Guess who stepped up and claimed responsibility for the failed car bomb?.

http://townhall.com/news/world/2010/05/ ... c_car_bomb

Not sure that I believe this as they have claimed responsibility of a lot of things but I could be wrong. Because the bomb did not go off the police will find something in the SUV that will give them clues as to who did it. Think about this: put your on everybody as a am about to go off the deep end. All the left around the world were protesting on Saturday as it was May Day and that is the normal day of protest for the left. So, what better way to end a day of protesting then to BLOW (in this case an EPIC FAIL) something up. The have security video of a white male getting out of the SUV and then later of him taking off his grey over shirt and having a red shirt on under it. Ok so that means what exactly? well right now bumpkins is about what it means even though they got a good snap of his face know one knows if the guy is right or left or somewhere way out in space. Me I would love to hear all the media ramp up on the right wing and TEA party spill to have to retract it later when they find out the guy was so far left that he makes Pelosi look like a moderate, now that would be Priceless

[BluemontGlock]

I am just glad the damm thing didin't go off so that we could be "saved" some more by "The Patriot Act II", or whatever the left, the right, and yahoos in between could come up with in the heat of the moment to show "progress" and flash pictures of troops on the TV in the local area to show we have this place on KNEE JERK LOCK DOWN... safe and sound... its GREAT TO BE SAFE isn't it... GOD SPARE ME...!

if it is a domestic, as they are spying on us already..., it will only get worse, as to be honest, i just figure that this forum is also being recorded by those that record all the drivel we produce...if it wasn't, i would joke "can't someone send them a map to bloomburg's office"...but i won't, as i'm sure that would be considered treason...
The cycle will continue until a true patriot gets into the office, and realizes that you cannot beat your enemy by becoming them, we are running our country down the tubes, in the name of saving it... under lock and key... and never forget also, as i am quick point out that everyone that shows up, is not there to help... what if NYC planted it just for the hype and the anti gun sentiment ? crazy, yes...but what if, and crazier things have happened...and either way, our precious 2A !!???!! PU-LEASE... soon we will be told that the arcaic document that we keep senselessy referring to will no longer apply to the little people, like me and you...just the uniforms and the suits with helicopters (as that would include the wall street business men and insurance magnates) to save us from ourselves, of course, as we do not know what is best for us...according to those that "do" know...

I hope and pray it is some foreign entity, otherwise if you think the current adminstration is your enemy, just wait until you see an adminstration that is trying to "save" you from your fellow countrymen...as you haven't seen nothing yet...

the curiosity for me is why do we REALLY AND TRULEY believe that we are exempt from losing it all...? maybe it is just me, but i feel that we are on the cusp of a major change, again, and not for the better...

Do we lose the right of free movement this time? or free movement is still OK, so long as we have papers? or papers that indicate that we are "licensed" to wield the awesome power of free speeech and we have been found to be not so idiologically opposed to the gov't that they deem it ok if we are able to gather and protest (or not)....? what will it be... go ahead...let the mind wander to how those in power "COULD" save us this time... scary isn't it... it is time to start talking to your elected officals about reducing the hype...even on actual events... we are at war, civilians die in war, any questions on that?...

why do we believe that we are the exeception? How is it "terrorism" when you are at war, OH, you mean you didn't realize all the different people you were fighting with...You mean that when you have a war, you don't get to control it like where it happens, who is involved, who gets injured???? perhaps next time we will be smart enough to aviod such a costly endevour (which is said after everytime a war is started)

Its not terrorism, its warfare...
If they want terrosim, i guess we are just going to have to call off the war...
OR FINISH IT (now there is an novel ass idea...quick and brutal, just end it, as, IMHO, we should not trifle with War unless we are prepared to do so...)

Lady Liberty, to quote Lady Antebellum, ...Its a quarter after 1, Im a little drunk, & we need you now...

While you are Carrying On, & Doing good things, Collect up and keep your powder dry, cause i got a bad feeelin''''' .... as it is not too too often that i hope i am wrong...dead ass wrong...

[GS78]

This was a plant.A fake. A test. Never before has a bomber took the time to light ther fuse, put his flashers on , get his backpack out and stand on the busiest street in America to change his shirt in full view of numerous surveillance cameras, leave fingerprints and a photo, deliberately look back suspiciously at the truck bomb(on camera) before slowly walking away..... This was a plant, and it is intended to put the government iun postion to crack down on dissent. WATCH. I'll bet you a dollar.

[wally626]

It looks like from the news that there is now a Pakistani connection which would tend to indicate a Jihadist attack versus a domestic nut-job. The bomb design is similar to the London car bombs that also failed to go off. I think someone has decided to try and make a BLEVE type device but it is not simple to get these to work, especially quickly. See Mythbusters for the water cooler version. If done right they can do a lot of damage, if even slightly successful they can do some damage, Glasgow airport as an example. It appears home made versions mostly don't work which is good. In the middle east most of the bombs use conventional high explosives, it seems whatever precautions the US has taken since Oklahoma City have restricted the ability of terrorists groups to get ahold of this type of material in the US.

[zephyp]

This was a plant.A fake. A test. Never before has a bomber took the time to light ther fuse, put his flashers on , get his backpack out and stand on the busiest street in America to change his shirt in full view of numerous surveillance cameras, leave fingerprints and a photo, deliberately look back suspiciously at the truck bomb(on camera) before slowly walking away..... This was a plant, and it is intended to put the government iun postion to crack down on dissent. WATCH. I'll bet you a dollar.

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup, how many times have you seen this administration label anything as "terrorism?"

Answer: Once - on this incident.

This was clearly the work of some local yahoo looking to pin the blame on someone they didnt like...can you say TEA Party or Conservative or The Right...

If this were indeed terrorists they would have done one or two things...

1 - used alot more discretion and the bomb would have actually detonated and been made differently or

2 - used more people with automatic weapons lighting up anything that didnt get exploded by the bomb...

[Taggure]

Well Well Well looky who it really was. I guess That I was wrong it was

OakRidgeStars wrote:
Guess who stepped up and claimed responsibility for the failed car bomb?.

http://townhall.com/news/world/2010/05/ ... c_car_bomb

Not sure that I believe this as they have claimed responsibility of a lot of things but I could be wrong. Because the bomb did not go off the police will find something in the SUV that will give them clues as to who did it.

May. 4, 2010 7:52 AM ET

Man held in NYC car bomb attack to appear in court

NEW YORK (AP) — A Pakistan-born U.S. citizen accused of driving a bomb-laden SUV into Times Square and parking it on a street lined with restaurants and Broadway theaters was to appear in court Tuesday to face charges that he tried to set off a massive fireball and kill Americans, federal authorities said.

The suspect, Faisal Shahzad, was taken into custody late Monday by FBI agents and New York Police Department detectives at Kennedy Airport while trying to board a flight to Dubai, according to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and other officials. He was identified by customs agents and stopped before boarding, Holder said early Tuesday in Washington.

U.S. authorities "will not rest until we have brought everyone responsible to justice," Holder said, suggesting additional suspects are being sought.

Shahzad, 30, is a naturalized U.S. citizen and had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, where he had a wife, according to law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation into the failed car bombing.

The rest can be found here: http://www.wmal.com/news.asp?c=USNEWS&u ... 57daa0cf0e

[WildBill44]

Don't hold your breath until this guy is convicted. Since he is in all probability a Muslim, our Muslim-in-Charge will find some creative way to let him off.

[Taggure]

Don't hold your breath until this guy is convicted. Since he is in all probability a Muslim, our Muslim-in-Charge will find some creative way to let him off.

Of course I can expect nothing else but that. I am sure that he will say that he was
Misguided individual.

This guy was a registered DEMOCRAP so this was a Left Wing Nut Job Muslim Extremists

We will see this get brushed under the carpet and then out the door instead of making an example out of him.

Once found guilty they should broadcast his execution on all channels to include a You Tube video to send a message on what will happen to the next one that tries to hurt us.

Then see how quick the left wing liberals scream.