US history begins in 1877

[GS78]

North Carolina schools are proposing to start US history at 1877 with the Presidency of Rutherford B Hayes.


and you wonder why people don't know whats in the constitution anymore......

[GS78]

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010 ... onment-in/

[zephyp]

Well just beat me with a stick. I heard about this yesterday. Dumbest thing I ever heard of. And, we all know why they are doing this...dont we....

[wylde007]

If they start it after the "unpleasantness" then they never have to broach the subject of Lincoln's tyranny and invasion of a peaceful, sovereign nation for financial gain.

UNreconstructed.

[GS78]

If they start it after the "unpleasantness" then they never have to broach the subject of Lincoln's tyranny and invasion of a peaceful, sovereign nation for financial gain.

UNreconstructed.

.... and it makes it a whole lot easier to rewrite history . Besides think of how upsetting it must have been for NEA operatives in the past, to have to admit to some of "that other history".....

[KaosDad]

It's bad enough that most public schools ahve to "Teach to the Test" - now they are teaching revisionist history??? FFS! I know folks here have very strong feelings about the Civil War (War Between The States, War of Yankee Agression) and I am NOT trying to stir up that pot - really. But what good do we do ANYBODY if we skip the first 100 + years of our Nation's History?

The USA is a great country inspite of her warts & was made great, in some cases, BECAUSE of her flaws and the flaws of the men & women who served the Nation.

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."{Edmund Burke (1729-1797)} - how many times have we seen this played out in history?

I survived private school & there the teachers were to TEACH. So, for us, American History started with the Toltecs, Maya & Aztecs and ended with the Reconstruction (for that year).

By fast forwarding the "Education System" is robbing those kids of the right to free speach through open & educated debate in the class room.

Sorry - rant off.

[wylde007]

It's bad enough that most public schools ahve to "Teach to the Test" - now they are teaching revisionist history?

They've been teaching revisionist history for generations, starting with the war being about slavery and Lincoln wanting to "preserve the union", something he had no authority or purpose in doing other than to subjugate the private wealth of the South to the yankee industrial machine.

Follow it up with FDR's despicable and liberty-destroying acts of the "New Deal" where private gold was confiscated and personal wealth, with the exception of his connected friends was totally destroyed.

Then luring Japan to attack Pearl Harbor so we would be "forced" into a two-front war initiative to "pull us out of a depression."

Let's see, what else? Gulf of Tonkin? Bay of Pigs? Iran-Contra?

They'll just sweep whatever they want under the rug and rewrite history to suit them. How very Orwellian.

[BluemontGlock]

and that is why we can never wholly replace books...

the internet can be "edited" over and over, and done so easily... it is tough to do that with an already printed book with out it being noticed...

[OakRidgeStars]

That's an interesting point, Eliot. You don't have to look too far down the road to envision a Kindle or iPad in the hands of every student instead of books.

Between the "personalized" history lessons and the commercial advertising, who knows what kids will learn.

[BluemontGlock]

Jay,
we are well on our way...

I tell my kiddies all the time to "not believe everything you read, and always ask how "they" now what they know (the concept of Metadata)... and never be afraid to ask someone who is making a "point"...to prove it...or if someone is asking them questions, that it is perfectly acceptable to ask "why do you wnat to know?" before responding... (that is to everyone except me )

My son's 3rd grade teacher hates me...and that is A-ok with me...

[OakRidgeStars]

Mm mmm mm...

[Eagle4second]

This is a bit long winded, I know...

North Carolina schools are proposing to start US history at 1877 with the Presidency of Rutherford B Hayes.


and you wonder why people don't know whats in the constitution anymore......

(Vehement derision ahead)
Good. Thats ok with me. After all the Founding Fathers, er, "framers", no, no, the white, slave owning, woman hating, (totally a-religious men wrote a "living document" that should be taken to mean whatever we want it to. So why learn about why they wrote what they wrote, and why study what it actually means? What's the use in learning about their violent and hostile ways that created an oppressive and war-mongering country like the US of A? Instead we should study FDR. He "saved" the country don't ya know? Herbert Hoover's hands-off, laze faire approach to the evil capitalist free market along with greedy bankers who were allowed to do what ever they wanted lead to the Great Depression.
(end sarcasm)

The American public school system teaches the great depression- as it should. But its taught as if- like I said- capitalism caused the problem and FDR had to come to the rescue with his massive expansion of the Government. Never mentioned is the fact that unemployment never got below 14% (I'm pretty sure, I will check again) until we were all ready well into WWII. Also neglected is what he did to the Supreme Court. Or how he destroyed the Constitution of these great United States, beginning the onslaught of "social programs" and all the other crap that- Congressmen even admit- can be found nowhere in the Constitution that have taken place over the past seventy years. None the less, school children are fed this dream of Big Government as a savior and protector of the people and that we, as citizens, are entitled to all kinds of garbage. You wonder how people can vote for a joker like Obama? THATS WHY! Children are taught that, yes, the Government is more important than you, your property, and your rights. Security over freedom!
I had no idea about the reality of the New Deal until about two years after high school. I began to become enlightened to the fact that what I had been taught about FDR, the New Deal, and the Great Depression (especially Hoover's role in causing it) was patent revisionism. I began to do some research for myself. Oh the things I learned. I was so p*ssed about the bald faced lies I was fed in high school that I wanted to drop out of COLLEGE because its even worse! My grades would be better here at the U of Mary Washington if I didn't spend half my time researching to confirm or discover the truth of the issues presented in class just so I can be positive of the reality. The schools are a laughing stock.
If I can suggest a book to you ladies and gentlemen it is Mark R. Levin's book, "Liberty and Tyranny." If you haven't read it, do yourself a favor and pick it up.
I'm out of breath. End rant

[GS78]

I agree, Levin's book is a gem, and I hate to read books. One post here said they tell their children to ask teachers to prove what they are teaching... The Bible tells you to "prove all things".... which is another reason the left wants to denegrate and destroy the influence of the Bible on youth..... I remember hearing when I was young, something like this...." if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t. that just about sums up the NEA, and public education.

[wylde007]

The Bible tells you to "prove all things"...

Years ago a good friend of mine called me up while at university. He and I had shared a long and intimate spiritual journey together while in high school, many ups and downs and the Lord interwoven throughout.

He was nearly in tears, I could tell by the shaking in his voice. He was taking a religion/theology course of some sort and said he had been reading a lot of things that were making him question his faith.

This is a fellow who I had prayed and sang and worshiped and shared communion with more times than I could possibly count.

I brought up essentially the same thing, that if his faith was true and he used his questions to investigate and deeper delve into his beliefs that he would become much stronger in the Lord and his walk with Him would ultimately be that much more rewarding.

And you are absolutely right. "They" want to be the false idol who replaces the Lord. "They" want to be all-powerful and eventually the Lord will decide He has had enough of "their" s**t and will smite them with great vengeance. Perhaps He will send "us" to do his great work. Who knows? Only He does.

I'm content to keep my powder dry until then. Ever vigilant.