VA-ALERT: VCDL Update 1/11/16
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1. Watch for VCDL digital ads in Richmond, Roanoke, Virginia Beach, Fredericksburg!
2. VCDL running ads on WRVA in Richmond!
3. VCDL president speaking in Manassas at a Tea Party event tonight
4. VCDL president to be on a televised gun panel in Lynchburg Tuesday
5. Ignore the “login” button on the top of VCDL’s new web site
6. Flooding the General Assembly with Guns Save Lives stickers
7. Need an Alternative to A Bumper Sticker For the Same Price?
8. Gun shops have wide latitude to deny sales
9. Letter: Paris attacks prove need for citizens to be armed
10. Gun rights a nonpartisan issue
11. McAuliffe attempts to claim VA loss wasn't because of gun control
12. ODU, city leaders scramble to stop violence as residents worry
13. [CO] Concealed carry of handguns has faded as an issue
14. [FL] FS shooting victim not allowed to carry in gun free zone
15. [SC] Police: Men lure couple to vehicle buy [VIDEO]
16. Terrorist Watch List
17. Legal guide to gun sales in all 50 states
18. Gun violence challenges Congress on mental health
19. Can you identify these 10 gun malfunctions? [VIDEO]
20. It's time for the TSA to stop discriminating
21. Wouldn't being armed at least give citizens a chance?
22. Ten Ways to avoid being killed during a terrorist attack
23. The results of one gun surrender event that Hillary loves so much
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1. Watch for VCDL digital ads in Richmond, Roanoke, Virginia Beach, Fredericksburg!
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VCDL just started running digital billboard ads in Richmond, Roanoke, Fredericksburg, and Virginia Beach. All ads will be running until mid-to-late February.
The ads are focusing on McAuliffe, Herring, and generally promoting gun rights and VCDL.
Keep an eye open for them!
To see a sampling of some of the ads (by by no means all of them), go to VCDL’s main web page and scroll to the bottom:
http://vcdl.org
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2. VCDL running ads on WRVA in Richmond!
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VCDL will be running radio ads in Richmond on AM 1140, WRVA, starting this Wednesday for 5 weeks.
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3. VCDL president speaking in Manassas at a Tea Party event tonight
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I’ll be speaking at the Manassas Tea Part meeting this evening at 7 PM. It is being held at the Manassas City Police Station, 9518 Fairview Ave., Mansassas, VA 20110
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4. VCDL president to be on a televised gun panel in Lynchburg Tuesday
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On Tuesday, January 12, from 7 PM to 8:30 PM I will be part of a televised panel on “gun violence" being held be ABC Channel 13 in Lynchburg (WSET). I am supposed to be going up against the Brady Campaign as I understand it.
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5. Ignore the “login” button on the top of VCDL’s new web site
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Please ignore the “login" option on the VCDL web site. That is only for administrators, not general membership
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6. Flooding the General Assembly with Guns Save Lives stickers
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On Monday, January 18th we will fill the halls of the General Assembly with many hundreds of VCDL gun rights supporters wearing
bright orange Guns Save Lives (GSL) stickers. This sends a powerful message to lawmakers about the volume of voters with a passion for the Second Amendment.
There will also be thousands of people representing other interest groups roaming the halls on Lobby Day. A large portion of them
are also pro-rights patriots. We need to offer everyone entering the building the opportunity to stand in solidarity with us by also sporting
our GSL stickers. Imagine tripling or quadrupling our numbers in the eyes of the press and the lawmakers.
To that end, we have a need for volunteers to be strategically placed within the building to politely offer GSL stickers to all passersby coming into the
building. The ideal would be to have sufficient volunteers to have them work in two or three person teams in each area for about an hour and a half
beginning prior to 8:30 a.m., leaving enough time afterward to visit individual lawmakers as constituents before the bell tower rally at 11:00 AM.
If you are interested in helping with this vital mission, please report in to the VCDL organization assembly point outside the main entrance of the General Assembly Building upon arrival.
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7. Need an Alternative to A Bumper Sticker For the Same Price?
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Don't like bumper stickers? Is your GSL magnet getting stolen? Coming soon to a VCDL table near you....GSL designs in STATIC CLING!
They are 5" just like the regular orange bumper stickers, but have the newer format where the “SAVE" is emphasized.
Prove to the antis you ARE emotional! Show your feelings on the INSIDE...of your car....of your house.....of your office.....of your store! Our stickers will cling to your windows while you cling to your guns!
(and they will be in the online store soon too!)
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8. Gun shops have wide latitude to deny sales
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Thanks to member Clayton Rhoades for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/ozzoo2b
or
http://www.chesterfieldobserver.com/new ... e_to_.html
Background checks: Gun shops have wide latitude to deny sales
by Ben Orcutt
November 25, 2015
If you try to purchase a firearm from a gun shop in Virginia, you better make sure the information you submit on your application is correct.
Oscar Thomas Logan Jr., 30, of the 6200 block of Belmont Road, found out the hard way when he tried to purchase a firearm on Aug. 19 from Bob Moates Sport Shop in Midlothian.
According to a Virginia State Police summons in Chesterfield General District Court, Logan did not admit on his background check form that he had been involuntarily committed to a mental health facility.
Logan was arrested shortly thereafter at the gun shop and charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor, which carries a maximum penalty of 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine. He is scheduled to be tried on Dec. 18 in General District Court.
David Hancock, one of two managers at Bob Moates Sport Shop, said the question that Logan did not answer properly is 11-F, “‘Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective, which includes a determination by a court, board, commission or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or to others or you are incompetent to manage your own affairs or, have you ever been committed to a mental institution?’ If you lie on any of these forms, then the state police are allowed to come pick you up.”
Applications to purchase firearms in Virginia are screened by the Virginia Firearms Transaction Program (VFTP) under the auspices of the state police, according to Corinne N. Geller, director of public relations for Virginia State Police.
The program screens buyers “at the point of sale for all firearms, except antiques, based on the results of a criminal history record information check on the buyer,” Geller said in an email. “The VFTP processed 405,838 transactions in 2014. Of these, 2,661 were denied based on the results of a criminal history record check or the identification of another disqualifying record.
“The purchaser’s name and certain personal descriptive data are immediately entered into a computer system at the dealer location or while the dealer remains on the telephone with the FTC,” Geller continued. “The design of this program eliminates traditional waiting periods by electronically accessing criminal records and ‘wanted’ databases at the National Crime Information Center and the Virginia Criminal Records Exchange and provides an instantaneous approval or delay determination to the firearms dealer concerning the firearms sale or transfer.”
Even if a person trying to purchase a gun passes the background check, gun dealers in Virginia can still refuse to make the sale, Hancock said.
As an example, Hancock recalled a time when he refused to sell a firearm to a man who came into his store.
“I had one that had just lost his job at Christmastime after 20 years,” Hancock said. “The company just folded out of nowhere. He was obviously very depressed. I could see it. He came in and just wanted to buy a gun. He wasn’t specific enough. Usually when you get that kind of situation it’s going to be a suicide. So I talked with the county police, had them stop by, and we all talked to him.”
Hancock said the authorities said it was up to him if he wanted to make the sale or not. Hancock told the man to come back after Christmas, and they would talk again about him purchasing a firearm when his emotions were in check.
“He came to see me after Christmas,” Hancock said, “and said, ‘You know what, you knew exactly what I was going to do, didn’t you?’”
The man decided not to purchase a gun, and Hancock said he felt good about giving the man some time to deal with his depression.
“We are very cautious about anything that looks funny [or if] they say something that sounds off the wall,” Hancock said. “A lot of things we look at way beyond the background check.”
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9. Letter: Paris attacks prove need for citizens to be armed
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Thanks to member Theron Keller for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/pvgganx
or
http://www.fredericksburg.com/opinion/l ... 2e1d0.html
Letter: Paris attacks prove need for citizens to be armed
By Bob Taubert
November 25, 2015
It is no secret that along with the quest for government-controlled universal health care, climate change tyranny and massive immigration of future Democratic Party voters that leftists, progressives, liberals or Democrats — whatever you want to call them — want to disarm America’s law-abiding citizens, but are too cowardly to admit it.
All these incremental, onion peel and harassing tactics under the guise of public safety and “reasonable laws” to regulate guns purportedly to prevent homicides and mass shootings mask true intentions.
It’s all about power and control, as are the above socialist programs in the left’s relentless march to establish their version of a utopia.
I wish gun-phobic wimps would man up and use the Constitution and attempt to repeal the Second Amendment once and for all. If their efforts fail, then they should shut up, leave us alone and stop implying that millions of legal gun owners are evil, sick, perverted or are being controlled by the NRA.
Listen to me. Your “reasonable measures” are falling on deaf ears, especially in light of the Paris massacres. Europeans need their own Second Amendment, or they will continue to be sitting ducks ready for the slaughter.
Just imagine what a half dozen armed citizens could have done to the two terrorists at the Bataclan? But Paris and most of Europe is a huge gun-free zone created by liberal governments, and these gremlins knew they would be virtually unopposed.
Sane Americans, appalled by Paris and our inner-city carnage, are wisely acquiring firearms for personal protection as fast as they can be produced.
Contrary to previous pompous rhetoric, facts show that firearms save millions of lives annually, often without firing a shot. Civilian disarmament in the midst of threats is insane. Instead, concealed-carry licensees should be encouraged to be armed in public until these and other threats subside.
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10. Gun rights a nonpartisan issue
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Thanks to member Paul B. for the comments:
I moved hear from the L.A. area in 2008. Back there, I had started a local Internet-based motorcyclist group called LAbikers. I’ve heard that it is still going strong after well over 20 years.
It was a laissez-faire kind of group with members suggesting events and other members attending. One of these recurring events was called the Scoot & Shoot. That was a ride to an outdoor range. The political makeup of the group was varied and people rarely brought up anything political which kept the group together all these years.
I noticed that many members were Dems. Well, this was L.A. No one in the group (dozens of members) had issues with guns.
In West Virginia, I am told that everyone was brought up with guns. They have areas where Dems rule. I’m sure that isn’t unique.
In VA, there seems to be a partisan attitude towards guns. At least in our legislature. Also in Congress. Why? When I’ve suggested to Dem gun owners in CA that they join a gun-rights organization, they wouldn’t hear of it. I even said that if you do nothing to protect your right to own a gun, you will lose it.
The NRA is somewhat at fault for that attitude. I used to be a member of the Libertarian Party. (I’m still a small el libertarian but am a member of the Republican Party. Long story). I’ve tried to convince the NRA that the R does not stand for Republican but Rifle. If a Dem, A Republican and a Libertarian was on a ballot and only the Libertarian was pro-gun, they would not endorse anyone. Ad nauseam.
When I attended Lobby Day, I mentioned to D legislators that gun rights should be a non-partisan issue. I did not get push back. That is a start.
Existing organizations need to reach out to Dems who own guns and convince them that the organization is non-partisan and it is in their interest to join forces. Failing that, a Dems for Guns organization will need to be created. Finding those people will be a difficult challenge, but an important one.
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11. McAuliffe attempts to claim VA loss wasn't because of gun control
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If Gecker had won, all we’d be hearing from the Governor is that the election had been proof positive that Virginians want more gun control. But, Gecker loses and the Governor says instead that gun control had nothing to do with Gecker’s loss.
Nice try, Governor, but no cigar.
Thanks to member Walter Jackson for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/pw9m99f
or
http://bearingarms.com/mcauliffe-attemp ... n-control/
McAuliffe attempts to claim Virginia loss wasn't because of gun control
by Bob Owens
November 6, 2015
“I need one seat to get control of the Senate, and we can pass common sense gun laws,” said Terry McAuliffe the night before the elections, and he did everything he could to push for those gun laws, soliciting anti-gun groups from out of state to pour nearly $3 million into Virginia, primarily in two key Senate races.
Michael Bloomberg pushed ads costing $730,000 against NRA-backed Glen Sturtevant in Senate District 10 in Virginia’s elections, attempting to flip the “red” seat “blue.” Americans For Responsible Solutions (ARS) spent an additional $720,000 on pro-gun control advertising, opposing Sturtevant and supporting his opponent.
Bloomberg also dumped $1.7 million to merely maintain a Democrat in another “deep blue” Virginia district. Jeremy McPike, his gun control candidate under-performed Obama’s 2012 election by nearly 10%, probably due to the fact Bloomberg’s ads roused pro-gun voters in his district.
As a result of the clear loss and closer than expected victory after nearly $3 million in anti-gun ad buys, Democrats are wondering if their gun control focus backfired:
When Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe and his fellow Democrats study what went wrong for them in Tuesday’s crucial legislative elections, one possible mistake stands out: Their aggressive advocacy of gun control in a pivotal Senate race in the Richmond area may have backfired by producing a pro-Republican backlash.
In a race that proved decisive in enabling Republicans to retain control of the Senate, Republican Glen H. Sturtevant won the 10th District seat after benefiting from a huge turnout in conservative Powhatan County, which analysts attributed in part to the gun issue.
Sturtevant beat Democrat Daniel A. Gecker after GOP supporters ran ads blasting Gecker for trying to win the seat with $700,000 of outside help from pro-gun-control TV advertisements paid for by a group linked to former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg.
McAuliffe had backed Gecker as far back as the Democratic primary and has broken with typical past Democratic practice in Virginia by openly opposing the National Rifle Association. That approach sparked some second-guessing in the wake of Gecker’s loss.
“The gun thing — I would have done it differently,” Sen. J. Chapman “Chap” Petersen (D-Fairfax) said. “It’s speculation at this point, but I feel the Gecker seat was one we thought we were going to win. .?.?. [The gun issue] was one variable that was thrown in at the last minute.”
A Richmond Times-Dispatch editorial said Gecker “made a massive mistake” by accepting the ads from Bloomberg. “A campaign focused on guns redounded to Gecker’s despair,” it said.
Democrat Governor Terry McAuliffe bragged and boasted when he won office despite challenging the NRA. He mistook his victory over a weak Republican candidate as a sign that gun control was a winning argument.
Now? He’s pretending that his strong gun control push didn’t happen, and wouldn’t have mattered anyway:
Gov. Terry McAuliffe on Thursday brushed off Democrats’ failure to win the state Senate, noting that the GOP-dominated House can block his agenda no matter who controls the upper chamber.
“I wanted to win the Senate. I gave it all I have,” he said. “But at the end of the day, you know, it wasn’t going to make a difference really one way or the other. I still have only 34 Democrats in the House of Delegates.”
The comments were McAuliffe’s first since Election Day, when Republicans held their 21-19 advantage in the Senate. Democrats could have grabbed control by flipping just one seat because Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam presides over the chamber and has the power to break most ties.
Throughout the enormously expensive Senate battle, Democrats and Republicans alike portrayed the outcome as critical to advancing or blocking McAuliffe’s legislative goals. McAuliffe barnstormed the state ahead of Election Day and solicited millions in out-of-state donations. In the aftermath, McAuliffe acknowledged that even with the leverage of a Democratic Senate, the overwhelmingly Republican House stood ready to kill his priorities.
Folks, we all know Clinton acolyte Terry McAuliffe. If Gecker had won after Bloomberg’s late cash infusion, he would have claimed it was as a result of a “mandate” for “common sense gun laws,” and he would have ridden it mercilessly in the media.
Of course, he lost, so now he’s all: “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
The Clinton/Bloomberg machine was using races as a testbed for Clinton’s 2016 run, which is incredibly heavily invested in radical gun control and even confiscation as their primary domestic policy issue.
It looks like they’ve made a huge mistake in attempting to run against the NRA, which won 92% of their election on Tuesday.
You have to wonder if Hillary Clinton’s calculus in attacking the 5 million men and woman of the NRA isn’t shaping up to be a major disaster.
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12. ODU, city leaders scramble to stop violence as residents worry
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ODU still doesn’t get it - CHP holders, students, faculty, staff, and guests, need to be allowed to carry everywhere on campus.
Thanks to EM Dave Hicks for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/pex8zdb
or
http://www.pilotonline.com/news/local/c ... a4c66.html
ODU, city leaders scramble to stop violence as residents worry
by Jonathan Edwards
November 20, 2015
With Halloween looming, City Councilman Andy Protogyrou proved an unfortunate fortune-teller when he warned City Manager Marcus Jones about the specter of more violence erupting around Old Dominion University.
[snip]
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13. [CO] Concealed carry of handguns has faded as an issue
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Colorado campus has found the CHP holders are causing no trouble at all on campus and the issue is gone. It’s the same everywhere it has been tried - Utah, Blue Ridge Community College (but carry now banned for all community colleges), and Liberty University. It’s just not an issue once the initial anti-gun rhetoric and fears don’t turn out to be real.
Thanks to EM Dave Hicks for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/plkfj6f
Or:
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/stat ... as-/npSZL/
At Boulder campus, concealed carry of handguns has faded as an issue
By Ralph K.M. Haurwitz
November 21, 2015
For 136 years, the University of Colorado banned anyone but law enforcement officers from carrying a firearm on campus. That changed in March 2012, when the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that a 2003 law expanding concealed gun carry rights in the state overrode the university’s Board of Regents.
The impassioned debate at the time of that ruling has long since subsided, even at the flagship campus in Boulder, a liberal outpost in the eastern foothills of the Rocky Mountains.
“The concealed carry issue is not much on the radar screen these days,” said Bruce Benson, president of the University of Colorado system, which includes the Boulder campus and three others.
That’s in sharp contrast with the University of Texas, where passions over a new campus carry law are running as hot as the barrel of a 9 mm Glock after target practice.
There haven’t been any significant incidents at the University of Colorado since the accidental discharge of a handgun three years ago by a staff member who was showing her weapon to colleagues at the university’s Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora, 35 miles to the southeast of Boulder. The staff member and a co-worker sustained minor injuries, and the staff member no longer works at the university.
“There have been absolutely no problems or issues (since then), so there never will be, right?” said Jerry Peterson, a professor emeritus of physics and former chairman of the Boulder Faculty Assembly. Peterson was praised by fellow faculty members and rebuked by the administration when he declared after the court ruling that he would cancel a class session immediately if he became aware that someone in the room had a firearm.
The evolution of the issue in Colorado offers another perspective at a time when universities, community colleges and health schools in Texas are preparing to implement Senate Bill 11, which widens concealed carry rights.
The Lone Star State has permitted holders of concealed handgun licenses to carry weapons on the grounds of public institutions of higher learning since 1995. SB 11, passed by the Republican-dominated Legislature and signed in June by Gov. Greg Abbott, lets licensees also carry guns in campus buildings, with each school’s president and governing board allowed to establish limited gun-free zones.
The law takes effect Aug. 1 next year for public universities — 50 years to the day after UT student Charles Whitman set a grisly early standard for mass murder on a college campus when he opened fire from 230 feet up on the UT Tower in a rampage that ultimately took 16 lives, including those of his mother and wife, whom he stabbed.
The law then goes into effect Aug. 1, 2017, for community colleges. Private schools are allowed to opt out altogether, and nearly all are expected to do so.
The UT Faculty Council voted unanimously last week to oppose guns in classrooms, offices, residence halls and most anywhere else on campus — a range of restrictions that UT President Gregory L. Fenves suggested would go beyond what the law allows. Some students and campus employees have spoken in support of the campus carry law at forums, but the vast majority of comments received by a working group charged with making recommendations to Fenves has favored sharp restrictions on where handguns could be carried. Some faculty members have threatened to ban handguns from their classes, no matter the rules.
The author of SB 11, state Sen. Brian Birdwell, asked Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton last week for a formal opinion, suggesting that a partial or blanket ban on guns in classrooms would violate the law. Birdwell, R-Granbury, also argued that schools can regulate the storage of handguns in dormitories but can’t ban them from dorms.
Like Texas, Colorado has seen its share of mass murder that serves as a backdrop to the gun debate, including the 2012 shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, where a former graduate student in neuroscience at the Anschutz campus killed 12 patrons, and the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School, where two disaffected students killed 13 people before taking their own lives.
Guns barred in dorms
At the Boulder campus, permit holders can carry concealed weapons in most places, including classrooms, offices and laboratories — but not in residence halls or at football games, concerts and other special events. Housing contracts and event tickets include a prohibition on weapons.
However, students with a concealed carry permit can arrange to live in separate university housing otherwise designated for students with families, provided they have a gun safe or other lockable, secure receptacle, said Bronson Hilliard, a spokesman for the university.
“Since I’ve been here, nobody has opted into that program,” said Melissa Zak, the university’s chief of police, who joined that force in July 2012. Just one student has taken up her department’s offer to store a handgun in a locker inside the police station. Another student, a military veteran, was keeping a gun in university housing, unaware of the ban, Zak said. He was instructed on the law but not charged.
“Our ability to exclude guns from dorms was really important,” said Russell Moore, provost and executive vice chancellor for academic affairs. “In a perfect world there would be a locker and 100 percent compliance when you lock up a gun. But where you have the possibility of young people who have been out drinking, it’s a bad mixture.”
Moore said officials estimate that less than 1 percent of the roughly 39,000 students, faculty and staff at the Boulder campus possess a concealed carry permit, and even fewer actually carry guns. County sheriffs, who issue the permits, don’t disclose the names of permit holders, so firm numbers aren’t available. Most undergraduates wouldn’t qualify because they are not yet 21 years old. Moore said he knows of just two people with permits, and neither carries guns on campus.
Hunter Metcalf, who grew up hunting, obtained a concealed carry permit for his 9 mm Springfield XD pistol before starting law school in Boulder, where he walked through a rough neighborhood on his way to class during his first year.
“I really didn’t feel incredibly threatened, but I figured that was what it was for — in case an occasion for self-defense arises,” he said. After the first year, he was able to park close to school and since then has “very seldom” carried a gun. Metcalf, 25, now in his third and final year of study, said he’s not aware of another current law student with a concealed carry permit.
Katherine Whitney, who graduated from the law school last year, often carried a gun while in school and continues to do so. She figures the number of people carrying guns on the Boulder campus might be as small as about 20, including some students who previously served in the military.
“I have a concealed carry permit as an acknowledgment of some of the evil that exists in society,” Whitney said. That conviction was driven home when, during law school, she sat through a trial of a man charged with the random murder of another man in the Hill, a neighborhood of restaurants, bars and shops adjacent to campus.
The court ruling that opened the university to concealed carry came in a case brought by three students and an organization called Students for Concealed Carry on Campus. Colorado’s Concealed Carry Act explicitly bars such guns from elementary, middle, junior high and high schools, but “universities are noticeably absent” from the exclusion, the state Supreme Court said. And because the law authorizes permittees to carry in “all areas of the state, except as specifically limited” by the statute, and grants no regulatory authority to the Board of Regents, the justices upheld a lower-court decision invalidating the university’s ban.
Ruling upset most faculty
The ruling didn’t sit well with a majority of faculty members and students at Boulder, Moore said, but the university was duty-bound to obey it. Officials made an exception for dorms and events by taking the position that housing agreements and tickets constitute contracts.
Critics predicted that some faculty members and students would be less willing to engage in vigorous class discussions for fear that someone might draw a weapon — a point also made in a resolution adopted by UT’s Faculty Council and in a joint statement against campus carry laws earlier this month by the Association of Governing Boards of Universities and Colleges and three other national education groups.
Moore said he has received no reports of a chilling effect from his university’s deans and department chairs. Nor have predictions of difficulties recruiting students, faculty and staff come to pass — a concern also cited by UT’s faculty.
“After that initial period when people were hypersensitized to the issue since it was such a radical change, it has simmered down,” the provost said.
But not completely. Julie Carr, who teaches writing and poetry at the Boulder campus, said she and some colleagues are in a heightened state of anxiety when dealing with some students.
“I work with students on a very intimate level,” Carr said. “I see a lot of students with mental health problems — not necessarily that it frightens me, but it might if I thought they had a weapon. I personally am just waiting for the school shooting to happen on my campus.”
Kyle Wagner, a freelance writer with two daughters at the school, said anytime a shooting occurs on a college campus, like the Oct. 1 rampage at Umpqua Community College in Oregon that left nine people and the gunman dead, “My brain explodes.”
She nevertheless supports concealed carry on campuses. “It’s my feeling that those people carrying with concealed permits are responsible and knowledgeable gun owners,” Wagner said, adding that she has taught her daughters how to handle and shoot a variety of firearms, in part so they could disable a weapon if they ever saw one lying around.
At the Auraria Higher Education Center in downtown Denver, which the university shares with two other institutions of higher learning, holders of concealed handgun permits are permitted to carry on the grounds, in buildings and at sporting and other events. On a handful of occasions, people have unintentionally revealed their weapons, such as when a jacket slips open, said Cmdr. Jason Mollendor of the Auraria Police Department.
“We tell people to just call the Police Department,” Mollendor said. “We’ll come and verify that they have a concealed weapons permit.”
Oliver Clough, a student studying digital design at the downtown campus, said he wishes guns were banned. “In general, students are not very receptive to the idea of concealed carry,” he said. “I see it as a threat.”
Still, given that there have been no major incidents, concealed carry seems to be a nonissue for most students.
Will Fattor, a junior who serves as director of health and safety for Boulder’s Student Government, said he considers drug and alcohol abuse, sexual misconduct and mental health far more pressing concerns than concealed carry — a view echoed by Zak, the police chief.
“Honestly, I’ve never heard anything about it on our campus,” Fattor said of concealed carry. “It’s never been brought up in any of my classes.”
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14. [FL] FS shooting victim not allowed to carry in gun free zone
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Thanks to member Sean Jackson for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/oyeqnr6
or
http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2014/12/f ... free-zone/
Florida State shooting victim had concealed carry permit but was not allowed to carry in gun free zone
By Onan Coca
December 4, 2015
The evidence is clear, constitutional gun ownership saves lives and gun free zones end them.
The latest example comes to us from the horrible shooting at Florida State University in Tallahassee, Florida.
A couple of weeks ago a gunman entered the library at FSU and shot three students before being gunned down by police himself. The FSU campus is a “gun free zone” where law-abiding gun
owners are stripped of their right to carry. Of course, while law-abiding citizens leave their guns at home… criminals see no reason to obey the “gun free zone” signs and carry their firearms wherever they want. Which is EXACTLY what happened at FSU.
Nathan Scott is a concealed carry permit holder, as well as a concealed carry activist who is highly trained and has the necessary skills to carry his firearm. However, since he was on FSU’s campus, he was without the ability to defend himself. Also on scene was a US Army veteran with more than enough training to help combat the threat, but of course he too had been disarmed by the “gun free” signs.
See what happens folks? “Gun free” signs only take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, not criminals looking to commit violent acts.
“The events of the last week in Tallahassee make plainly clear that it is unacceptable for responsible students who have gone to training, had extensive background checks, had their fingerprints taken, are of legal age, and are licensed by the state to be prevented from carrying their self-defense weapons on campus,” reads a release from Students for Concealed Carry at FSU, of which Scott is a member.
“The way the laws are now, violent criminals know that they have a window where they can act with impunity before police arrive on scene,” Erek Culbreath told Guns.com Wednesday. “This window varies, but as we have seen across the nation, in a student packed setting like a library the results can be unimaginably devastating. I am tired of seeing fellow students get shot at and having to flee for their lives when they know that if this shooting happened across the street off campus they would have the ability to have a fighting chance. Everyone deserves that chance, students are no exception.”
When will we stop the insanity of these gun-free zones? Every major shooting of the last 20 years has happened in gun free zones – schools, malls, movie theaters, etc. These shooters are ALWAYS cowards, they choose “soft” targets where the likelihood of meeting force is not high. It’s in our own best interests to stop the madness and let our law abiding gun owners carry their firearms wherever they go. Wherever.
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15. [SC] Police: Men lure couple to vehicle buy [VIDEO]
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Thanks to member Doug Kinney for the link:
A righteous shoot in Aiken County, South Carolina. The wife should be commended for accuracy ?and a cool head.
People warn that, if you use Craigslist, make the buy in a very public place. However, the interviewed lady in the video said she wouldn't buy this way because "you could be meeting a serial killer..."
http://tinyurl.com/q5eerxf
or
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11 ... f-her-own/
Police: Men Lure Couple to Vehicle Buy, Pull Out Weapons, Demand Money. Then One Victim Pulls Out a Gun of Her Own.
by Dave Urbanski
November 27, 2015
The trouble began after a couple responding to a Craigslist ad arrived at a meetup spot in Aiken, South Carolina, to purchase a vehicle, police told WJBF-TV.
Then the two black men who met the couple Wednesday afternoon pulled out weapons and demanded money, Aiken County Sheriff Captain Eric Abdullah told WJBF.
But one of the victims, a woman, pulled out her own gun and fatally shot one of the men, later identified as 23-year-old Frank Frazier Jr., police told the station, who died at the scene.
Witnesses said a black male with a grey hoodie fled from the road where the meeting took place, WJBF added, and police are still looking for him.
While authorities were investigating the scene, a couple admitted to the shooting and said it was in self defense, WJBF reported.
The couple said after the shooting, the other man ran off and they got in their car, called 911 and met with deputies at a nearby gas station, WRDW-TV said.
Abdullah told the station the investigation is ongoing but no charges have been filed.
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16. Terrorist Watch List
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Thanks to member Timothy Wise for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/nlje6nr
or
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/25/does- ... -have-now/
Does George Stephanopoulos even know what gun laws we have now?
by John Lott
November 25, 2015
Do gun control advocates even read what gun laws are on the books? The hot new claim is that there’s nothing to stop identified terrorists from buying guns in this country.
On Sunday, on ABC’s “The Week,” George Stephanopoulos asserted that, “Under current law, individuals on the terror watch list and the no-fly list have been allowed to buy guns and explosives.” That same day, New York City Police Commissioner Bill Bratton got on “Meet the Press” and asked Congress to “help us out with that Terrorist Watch List, those thousands of people that can purchase firearms in this country.” Chuck Todd then pressed Ohio Governor John Kasich on whether he would protect Americans by following Bratton’s advice.
It sure sounds scary.
But Bratton surely knows better. Law enforcement is notified every time that a person on the terror watch list attempts to buy gun. If it raises other flags, that case may be further scrutinized.
Being on the watch list doesn’t mean that you are guilty of anything. You can be on the list simply because the FBI wants to interview you about someone you might know. About 300,000 people on the watch list are under “reasonable suspicion” even though they have “no affiliation with known terrorist groups.”
Being on the watch list doesn’t mean that you have been arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of a crime. Of over 2,000 people on the watch list that bought guns between February 2004 and December 2014, not a single one has been identified as using a gun in a crime.
It is pretty easy to get on the terrorist watch list even if you haven’t done anything wrong. About 700,000 people were on the watch list last year, and this number has grown dramatically during the Obama administration. In 2014, about 50,000 people were on the “no-fly” list. This is a 10-fold increase since the beginning of 2009.
Should the government be able to deny people the right to protect themselves simply because it wants to ask about someone you might know?
Not only does the list target people who aren’t really threats, it stops a lot of people who aren’t even on the list. The late Sen. Ted Kennedy was stopped from flying five times because someone with the same name was on the anti-terror “no-fly” list.
The error rate for identifying potential terror threats is probably similar to the error rate for background checks on gun purchases. Over 94 percent of “initial denials” for gun purchases are dropped after just the first, preliminary review. These cases were dropped either because the wrong people had been stopped or because the covered offenses were decades old and the government decided not to prosecute. The total error rate comes to about 99 percent.
Even if we put people on a list and prohibited them from legally purchasing guns, it’s not really that hard to get a gun. Just because illegal drugs are illegal doesn’t mean people can’t get them. It’s the same with guns. And, incidentally, illegal guns and illegal drugs often go together.
All the AK-47s and explosive belts used in the Paris attacks were of course illegal. The gun laws in France are even much more extensive than anything that President Obama or Hillary Clinton have yet proposed. Nor would background checks on private gun transfers have stopped aany of the mass public shootings that we have seen in recent years.
Strangely, the Paris attacks are being used to push for gun control laws that failed to stop those attacks.
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17. Legal guide to gun sales in all 50 states
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Thanks to member Walter Jackson for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/qba4o2o
or
http://gunbuyersalmanac.org/?source=unit3
Legal guide to gun sales in all 50 states
The laws on buying and selling guns are different from state to state. The map at the link lets you learn about the laws where you live.
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18. Gun violence challenges Congress on mental health
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Thanks to EM Dave Hicks for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/pggweq4
or
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/m ... nra-216221
Gun violence challenges Congress on mental health
By Brianna Ehley
November 27, 2015
Even before word came of the latest mass shooting in San Bernadino, California, lawmakers were talking about guns and mental health.
It's hard not to.
Speaker Paul Ryan this week said he wanted to push ahead with a mental health overhaul making its way through the House.
An odd couple pair of senators have been building support for a similar, less controversial, initiative in the Senate.
Nobody thinks a mental health bill, no matter how bipartisan or well-crafted, will magically make the violence disappear. And advocates worry that linking mass shootings and mental illness will add to the stigma that already haunts the mentally ill, the vast majority of whom are not violent.
But across the spectrum, lawmakers acknowledge that the mental health system in American needs to be fixed. And that some of the perpetrators of mass shootings have serious mental illness — and easy access to guns. But again and again, when they try to fix mental health care, they get stuck — often because of the volatile politics of gun ownership in America.
It may be happening again.
The Senate’s No. 2 Republican, John Cornyn of Texas, has been working behind the scenes to drum up support for his own mental health legislation, which includes language endorsed by the National Rifle Association. He says he wants his bill — not the bipartisan one on track for consideration by a Senate committee early next year — to be "the engine that pulls the train" of mental health legislation.
Cornyn says his bill would boost the federal background check system to prevent guns from getting into the hands of those with serious mental illness. His critics say the legislation actually loosens restrictions on gun purchases, under the umbrella of mental health reform.
“The net effect of this bill would be to weaken, not strengthen, our background check system, and make it easier for people struggling with dangerous mental illness to legally access a gun,” said Mark Prentice, spokesman for Americans for Responsible Solutions, former Rep. Gabby Giffords’ gun control advocacy group.
Any push to include guns could create a wedge in the bipartisan coalition that has been working on a mental health overhaul — and trying to keep it separate from the background check fight that has divided Washington at least since the Columbine school killings in 1999.
Cornyn confirmed right before Thanksgiving that he’s talked to Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), a sponsor of the main bipartisan mental health initiative, about packaging the two bills together. A Cassidy spokesman said at that time that Cassidy, who is a co-sponsor of Cornyn's bill, was “supportive” of that idea.
Asked on Wednesday about wrapping guns into mental health legislation, Cassidy said, "I think people may decide to do so, but if they decide to do so, it might rightly be seen as an attempt to defeat the legislation, not to advance the cause of gun control.” He did not specify what type of gun measure he would find counterproductive.
But Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, Cassidy's Democratic partner on the bill gaining traction in the Senate and a progressive who is pushing separate gun control legislation, is not on board with incorporating Cornyn's measures.
“Ultimately, he believes the final product has the greatest chance of passage if it maintains its singular focus on mental health, rather than venturing into other complex issues,” Murphy’s spokesman, Chris Harris, said.
The motives and identities of the San Bernardino assailants are not yet clear, but after the shooting spree, Murphy showed his frustration. He tweeted that gun violence requires leaders to offer more than “thoughts and prayers” and in a statement he begged his colleagues to act.
“I can only pray that America’s leaders will do something — anything — that prevents more communities from knowing this sorrow. Congress’ No. 1 responsibility is to keep our constituents safe, and not a single senator or member of Congress can go back to their state this weekend and claim that they are doing their job,” he said.
The possibility of a schism arising from the Cornyn bill is disturbing both to mental health advocacy groups — many of which didn’t want to be quoted criticizing Cassidy or Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chairman Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) as they move the issue ahead — and to gun control advocates.
The most recent time the Senate tried to pass ambitious mental health legislation, after the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, sweeping proposals were whittled down. What was left failed when it was tacked onto a gun background check measure that was defeated on the floor in 2013.
Since then, neither the full Senate nor the House has considered comprehensive mental health legislation, although a few, more-modest initiatives have passed.
Neither the Cassidy-Murphy bill nor the House version — sponsored by Rep. Tim Murphy (R-Pa.) — is a done deal; there are plenty of disputes to resolve over patient privacy, court-ordered outpatient treatment and the price tag for an overhaul. But both pieces of legislation had begun to move as lawmakers looked for a way to respond to the mass shootings across the country.
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), who has long advocated both mental health legislation and tougher gun laws, wants to keep the two initiatives separate. On mental health, she sees a chance at finding the common ground that’s so elusive in Washington. But not if guns are added to the mix.
“This is something that needs to be done and stand on its own,” Stabenow said.
Gun control activists say Cornyn's language allows for patients’ gun rights to be restored immediately upon their release from involuntary treatment. In addition, they say, it would narrow the definition of who is actually prohibited from buying a gun.
Cornyn's measure expands upon a grant program that gives incentives to states that share mental health records with the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, known as NICS. The goal is to prevent anyone who has been adjudicated by a court as mentally ill from buying a gun.
On its website, the NRA says Cornyn’s bill would “protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens from continued bureaucratic abuse by the Obama Administration.” Under the system laid out in the bill, prohibiting someone from possessing a gun requires a “full hearing in which an individual has notice, the opportunity to participate, and the right to counsel.”
Cornyn's bill includes other mental health provisions, and he incorporated elements of Sen. Al Franken’s bill on mental health and criminal justice. But the Minnesota Democrat won’t back Cornyn’s legislation because of the gun element.
"We have issues with some language in the bill, so I am not signing on as a co-sponsor,” Franken said late last month.
The House bill by Rep. Tim Murphy does not include any language on guns. However Rep. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.) is pushing a companion measure to Cornyn’s bill, though it is unclear whether lawmakers will try to package the two together if Murphy’s bill makes it to the floor. His bill was approved by the House Energy and Commerce health subcommittee and is awaiting consideration by the full committee. While Murphy's bill has scant Democratic backing on that panel, it does have support from several dozen Democrats in the House as a whole.
In his brief public comments on mental health, Ryan spoke about Tim Murphy's bill and didn't mention gun legislation.
How the simmering Senate fight plays out won’t be clear for some time, and other procedural pathways could emerge.
Alexander is leaving his options open — including opening the door to Cornyn.
“I expect to see the HELP Committee report additional legislation in the upcoming months,” Alexander said during a mental health hearing this fall. “Then we will see what other committees are doing, what the Judiciary Committee might be doing, what the Finance Committee might be doing on Medicaid and Medicare and see if putting all those together, we have a better coordinated response toward mental health.”
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19. Can you identify these 10 gun malfunctions? [VIDEO]
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Thanks to member Walter Jackson for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/o4h4tet
or
http://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2015/ ... functions/
Video quiz: Can you identify these 10 gun malfunctions?
By Daniel Xu
November 11, 2015
Identifying firearm malfunctions is easy enough after the fact, but can you correctly call these as they happen? Not only is it a useful skill to have, but being able to identify certain malfunctions instantly can save lives—and that’s no hyperbole. Last month we posted a video of a range officer spotting a dangerous malfunction at the very last second. In that case, the shooter had encountered a squib and had already racked another round into the chamber. Had the range officer been any slower, the gun would have fired and likely suffered a catastrophic malfunction, possibly resulting in injuries to the shooter.
You can learn more about firearm malfunctions here and check out our informative infographic on the topic here. You can also take our other gun malfunctions quiz here.
This quiz should be pretty easy if you know your malfunctions—and there’s two “easy” questions to keep your spirits up. Good luck!
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20. It's time for the TSA to stop discriminating
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Thanks to member David Custer for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/phfctnx
or
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/11/ ... ating.html
One-third of all Americans own a gun, it's time for the TSA to stop discriminating
By Diane Black
November 24, 2015
If you have followed the news headlines lately, you know that the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) – the bureaucracy responsible for ensuring the safety of our nation’s travelers – has seen better days. An internal investigation released in June found that the TSA had a stunning 96 percent failure rate in detecting weapons and fake explosives. More recently, a report from “The Today Show” revealed that NBC producers were able to pass airport security with Swiss army knives and box cutters in tow. Comforting, huh?
While knives and weapons may make it past airport security all too often, your handgun carry permit – a government-issued form of identification – will not. I speak from personal experience. On a recent flight from Nashville to Washington, I approached the TSA counter only to realize my drivers’ license was tucked away in a pocket of my jeans at home. Unfazed, I pulled out my handgun carry permit to identify myself to the agent. The card bears my picture, my full legal name, my date of birth, and a hologram with the state seal.
Further, as any firearm owner knows, the process of obtaining your handgun license is significantly more involved than obtaining a drivers’ license. It requires completion of a safety course, a fingerprint, and a thorough background check. If that’s good enough to carry a weapon, then surely it is sufficient as a form of identification to board a plane, right?
Wrong. As I handed over my permit, I was met with a look of immediate disapproval. The TSA agent informed me that handgun licenses are banned as a form of identification. After a moment of panic, I showed the agent my Congressional voting card and boarded my flight, but I vowed to do my research on the subject upon returning to Washington.
As it turns out, the TSA agent was correct. Their website explicitly states that “A weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification” so I decided to determine what is allowed under TSA standards. According to federal law, the criteria for a “verifying identity document” is “an unexpired document issued by a U.S Federal, State, or tribal government” that includes your full name, date of birth, and photograph … In other words, everything that is on my handgun carry permit. Compounding my frustration were the reports earlier this year that TSA was accepting Costco membership cards as a form of identification. Double standard much?
We all understand the need for tough security measures at our nation’s airports, but these policies must be rooted in logic and fact, not someone’s political agenda.
One in three Americans own a gun and there is no reason to make them feel like second class citizens when traveling. That is why I introduced the Nondiscriminatory Transportation Screening Act, or the “TSA Act” for short.
This simple, two-page bill would allow Americans to use handgun carry permits bearing a photograph for TSA purposes while maintaining strong protections for gun owners’ privacy rights and prohibiting government tracking of individuals who choose to present this identification at airport screenings.
The legislation is not simply a response to my travel experience; it also reflects the will of the states – such as in Texas, where the state legislature overwhelmingly adopted a bipartisan resolution calling upon Congress to pass a bill such as this.
I do not discount the very real threats that exist to passenger safety on our nation’s transportation system, but law-abiding gun owners choosing to identify themselves with a handgun carry permit are not among those.
After seven years of hostility from this administration towards Americans who exercise their Second Amendment rights, passage of the TSA Act should be a simple, bipartisan step we can take to stop the government’s marginalization of gun-owners and alleviate confusion for millions of American travelers this holiday season.
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21. Wouldn't being armed at least give citizens a chance?
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Thanks to member Walter Jackson for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/q3rsnmo
or
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... ns-chance/
Bill Maher on terror attacks: Wouldn't being armed at least give citizens a chance?
By AWR Hawkins
November 21, 2015
During the November 20 airing of Real Time with Bill Maher, California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom’s (D) pro-gun control comments were countered by Maher’s observation that being armed during a Paris-style attack would at least give citizens a fighting chance to survive.
According to MRC/Newsbusters, Maher stepped in to defend the option of being armed for self-defense after Newsom dismissed the idea of a good guy with a gun having any real success against bad guys with guns.
Newsom said, “I just simply, this sort of mythology, the guy with the gun that’s going to come save the day, I mean, so right out of the movies, sort of this gun-slinging fantasy. The reality is, it’s most likely to create more harm, more damage, more lost lives in those circumstances.”
Surprised by Newsom’s willingness to accept the paradigm of citizens remaining unarmed in such a setting, Maher responded, “Really? So if you were in a restaurant and a crazy gunman came in, you wouldn’t want to have a gun? You’d rather just be shot?”
Newsom responded by suggesting that citizens without proper training might just start shooting in response and make things worse. They might get nervous and “start pointing the trigger or pointing a gun and shooting.”
Again, Maher countered by trying to get Newsom to listen to himself. Maher said, “But hasn’t the worst thing already happened? A crazed madman who’s bent on killing everyone? How could it get worse?”
Maher’s contention was clear—at least being armed would give citizens a fighting chance.
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22. Ten Ways to avoid being killed during a terrorist attack
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Thanks to member Billy Huckleberry for the link:
Out of the ten, I would place #10 as #1.
http://tinyurl.com/nbe45xw
or
http://bearingarms.com/ten-ways-avoid-k ... st-attack/
Ten Ways to avoid being killed during a terrorist attack
By Brent Wheat
November 15, 2015
In light of Friday’s terrorist attacks, it seems only a matter of time before similar incidents occur in the U.S. The question many people are asking is “What would I do if suddenly in a situation like Paris??” To help answer that concern, Bearing Arms will offer a list of ten things you can do to avoid becoming a casualty in the “War on Terror.”
1. Realize it WILL happen here – This isn’t a paranoid statement: it is a simple unpleasant fact based upon intelligence gathering efforts, expert opinion, and common sense. At some point, it is likely there will be a coordinated, Paris-type attack in the U.S. on schools, shopping malls, sporting events, or other mass-gathering areas. And, don’t think it would happen only in New York, Chicago or Los Angeles because what would be better to create fear (the ultimate goal of terrorist action) than by killing dozens or hundreds of people at a school in rural Mississippi or a shopping mall in Montana?
2. Always carry a concealed firearm where legal – Carrying a firearm is a lifestyle habit, not something you should do only occasionally or when you feel it is likely there will be trouble. Odds are, you won’t correctly guess the date, time and place of life-threatening violence. A concealed firearm in the hands of a responsible and trained individual is statistically one of the best tools available to stop mass killings.
3. Improvised weapons are within reach – If you cannot or choose not to carry a firearm, there are always effective weapons within your immediate area so learn to use them. Whenever unarmed in a public area, make it a habit (or game) to choose three nearby items that would make a good weapon if things turn dire.
4. Know where exits are located – Many people die during all types of emergencies because they don’t know where exits are located. This should be the first thing you do, above all else, whenever situated in a public place.
5. Act decisively – The “immediate action drill” during an attack is either fight or flee. Don’t mill around, waiting for instruction or to gain a better idea of what is happening. Flee the area when you have an opportunity or instantly attack a threat if one presents itself. The old chestnut is still true: “To Ponder is to Perish.”
6. Be alert to people and unusual circumstances – Most folks wouldn’t see a large pink gorilla wandering down the hallway and certainly won’t see a suspicious individual fiddling with wires under a long trench coat on a hot day. You don’t have to glare at every passerby but simply maintain a loose focus for unusual patterns of activity within your surroundings. This is also known as “Maintaining Condition Yellow.”
7. “If you see something, say something.” – Cops everywhere have stories of witnesses who said after a crime, ‘I wasn’t sure what was going on and I didn’t want to make a big deal out of it.’ If you see people or objects that look suspicious, notify the authorities immediately. There is no punishment for being mistaken but there are huge consequences to being correct but not sharing the information.
8. There is one more bomb/attack/assailant – Experience has shown that attackers are increasingly planning not only their initially assault, but follow-up actions such as secondary or even tertiary explosives and attackers. Such actions not only increase the “shock and awe” of the incident but cause additional carnage and damage the emergency response system.
9. Have a basic understanding of trauma medical care – in the aftermath of a bombing or shooting incident, many people will be bleeding to death and you have two or three minutes to save lives. This means you need to understand mass-casualty triage principals and some basic tactical combat casualty care (TCCC) techniques. Be ready to provide aid such as tourniquets, spinal immobilization and safe patient evacuation from threatening circumstances. (See related article: Stop the Bleed)
10. Trust your intuition – If something ‘feels’ dangerous or simply makes you uneasy, trust your inner voices. This inner dialog might be wrong, but then again, you may have subconsciously picked up subtle environmental clues that you “can’t quite put your finger on,” but are real nonetheless. At the very least, move to a safer position or relocate to where you can more easily escape a potential kill zone.
It is not hyperbole to state that we are all now terrorism responders because the avowed goal of Daesh and other such groups is to bring death and destruction to Mainstreet U.S.A. However, with planning and preparation individual citizens can sometimes prevent, often shorten and effectively respond to mass killing incidents.
The “Tango’s” are ready and merely waiting. Are you likewise?
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23. The results of one gun surrender event that Hillary loves so much
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Net turn-ins: one BB gun and a hunting knife.
Thanks to member Chuck Nesby for the link:
http://tinyurl.com/o42ncrt
or
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/478283- ... s-so-much/
Here are the results of one of those voluntary gun surrender events that Hillary loves so much
By Parker Lee
November 23, 2015
As gun control continues to be a major talking point across the U.S., advocates for increased control have suggested a variety of methods to achieve their goals.
For presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, a voluntary gun turn-in or buyback program is “worth considering,” even at a federal level.
As Time Warner Cable News reports, such an event was just held in Greensboro, North Carolina, in mid-November and — despite seemingly high attendance — the hard results of the program may not be what proponents like Clinton were hoping to see.
As a Facebook post from the Greensboro Police Department indicates, local law enforcement asked “at least 1,000 residents” to come sign a ‘Pledge of Nonviolence,’ and ideally turn in any weapons and firearms at the same time:
Following the event, Time Warner Cable News reported that “almost 1,000” did come to take the pledge, and that “gun owners also turned in unwanted firearms and ammunition at the event.”
It’s a statement — as the NRA’s Institute for Legal Action writes — that may have been misleading:
“A report by Time-Warner Cable News tried to put a positive spin on things by noting that ‘almost 1,000 people’ responded to take the pledge, leading one to believe that 1,000 firearms had been turned in, but this was hardly the case. As evidenced by the footage accompanying the story, the gun turn-in apparently resulted in a single BB pistol and a single sheathed hunting knife being ‘taken off the streets.'”
The apparent turn-ins from that day consisted of one BB pistol, which was accompanied by BBs:
And this hunting knife:
While some politicians seem to propose otherwise, the results of this firearm turn-in suggest that Americans may not be quite so eager to voluntarily hand over their Second Amendment rights.
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