Loretta Lynch comment on Muslims

[wittmeba]

This from Loretta Lynch really bothers me. It is like the libs will use our Constitution for their personal agenda.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/1593/lore ... es-barrett

[MarcSpaz]

She can kiss my rosey red bible. If the gentle giant, Mike Brown's parents can tell their thug friends to burn the town to the ground, the thugs do, and then the parents don't get a single charge, then they better not charge anyone for saying a dann thing. About Muslims.

I have several friends who are Muslim. They are incredibly nice people who font support any of this terrorist carp from ISIS or ISIS inspired attackers. I k,ow not all Muslims are bad people. The problem is, 10's of millions of them are. And near 1 billion of them want Sharia law, which is rule by violence and murder of infidels. So, yea, excuse me for not hopping on the fan boat. I'll just keep judging people one at a time, while being aware of cultural differences that could be bad for my health.

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[Marshall357Dillon]

OK to judge one at a time, as individuals, as their views may not endorse violence, but that's not how they should be viewed as a group. As a group which has a few million violence-prone members, we cannot take the gamble as to who is OK and who is not. If you consider the history of the Muslims, it's tenets and it's M.O., you must be afraid. We do not need violent people in this country, no matter their religious or political beliefs.

[SHMIV]

When some crazy white guy shoots up a black church, I hear other white people scrambling for every opportunity to denounce and condemn the action.

When someone who claims to be a Christian shoots up a Planned Parenthood, other Christians race to denounce and condemn the action.

But, a Muslim sets off a bomb, or goes on a shooting spree.... I don't hear much from the Muslim community. Sure, one or two token Muslims appear on TV to tell me how much I misunderstand Islam, and when specifically asked, they say, "Oh, well, of course I don't support such things", but overall one sees far more of the Muslim community celebrating the destruction than denouncing it, at least, that's how it appears to me.

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[MarcSpaz]

In response... I judge the majority of Muslims as dangerous, as I wrote above. There are something like 1.8 Billion Muslims in the world and a majority of them want Sharia law, which is very violent. Most Muslims want to kill, convert and enslave all non-Muslims. Yes they are dangerous.

My point was... I believe that a majority of Muslims that came to the US or were born in the US and are of the Islamic faith, are here / came here because they don't want Sharia law, but rather the law of the USA.

Yes, some will be evil. That doesn't mean all are evil. This is why I said, I will judge the individual.

[WRW]

In response... I judge the majority of Muslims as dangerous, as I wrote above. There are something like 1.8 Billion Muslims in the world and a majority of them want Sharia law, which is very violent. Most Muslims want to kill, convert and enslave all non-Muslims. Yes they are dangerous.

My point was... I believe that a majority of Muslims that came to the US or were born in the US and are of the Islamic faith, are here / came here because they don't want Sharia law, but rather the law of the USA.

Yes, some will be evil. That doesn't mean all are evil. This is why I said, I will judge the individual.

Perhaps, if those not wanting Sharia law converted to a prophet that did not condone lying to achieve violent ends, I could be persuaded to believe this.

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[MarcSpaz]

The Old Testament teaches and eye for an eye, stoning prostitutes, and literally dozens of examples of unjust, excessively violent murder for "sinners". Should members of the Jewish faith be forced to convert to some other religion or they can't be trusted?

[WRW]

It's the lying that stretches credibility.

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[MarcSpaz]

Okay... so.. that is beyond obvious. If someone is a known liar, they have no credibility. Yes... agreed. However, just because the Quran says they should lie to convert people, that doesn't automatically mean all Muslims are liars, the same way not all Jews stone prostitutes.

[WRW]

Beyond obvious is, "why believe anything said by one who worships from a script that calls for lying?"

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[SHMIV]

When was the last time we had a serious problem with Jews stoning prostitutes?

I must admit, that whole lying thing bothers me, too. So does the report of the modern teaching to not appear devout. Sorry, I have no link for that, it's something that I heard on the radio.

From what I hear, read, and from my own personal experience, I find it wise to be distrustful of Muslims.

To be clear, my distrust of Muslims does not mean that I will be unpleasant or impolite to any Muslim that I meet. Indeed, treating Muslims with Christian love and charity is part of what Christians are called to do.

Also, I will not advocate or condone initiation of violence. I will not be calling for good citizens to blow up a mosque, or lynch Muslims.

I will simply advise that we should be prepared, and be observant.

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[Reverenddel]

I have no issues with Buddhists, my fellow Tribe followers, Christians, Shintoist, or even Pagans... Why?

BECAUSE THEY DON'T FREAKIN' BLOW UP THINGS AND SHOOT INNOCENT PEOPLE MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS, IS WHY!!!!!

Like SHMIV, I will be courteous, polite, and friendly. I am Southern. That said, I will have my hand close to my weapon. I am Southern.

[MarcSpaz]

I dont know... Maybe it's just me... But being Muslim is a "mindset" or way of thinking. There is no way of knowing what a Muslim looks like, especially moderates trying to blend in. So how can you defend yourself against a religion if you don't know someone? Seriously.

That's why I say I take everyone as an individual. I initially trust no one, but repect everyone until I know who my enemy is.

Don't get me wrong, I have a strong dislike for Muslims who want us dead and have no problem with giving them the hell on earth that they are begging for. I just want to make sure we're killing the right people. We turned two cities into rubble during WWII and millions of innocent non-militant people died. I prefer we not do that again.

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[SHMIV]

Oh, I get where you're coming from, Marc. You know, sometimes you can take visual cues, sometimes it's audio cues, and sometimes it's the cue you get from the hair raising up on your neck.

But, if someone tells me that they are a Muslim, I will automatically distrust them.

As to blowing up two cities, I note that we ended the war that way. We made it through WWII, and aside from Pearl Harbor, we suffered no major attack on our soil. I don't much like the idea of wiping out entire cities, either, but if a city has to go, I prefer the city not be American.

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[WRW]

Oh, Dear God, we aren't bringing up Nagasaki and Hiroshima with feelings of angst, are we? Please tell me, "No."

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[MarcSpaz]

Bill, I wouldn't go that far... but there is a reason no one else in the world (including us) has done it since. I keep hearing people say we should turn the whole region into a sheet of glass and I don't support that idea. Evidently every world super power, including the bad guys, agree with me.

Now... if we were to say... carpet bomb the caliphate into non-existence, I'm cool with that. I just don't support the genocide of any group of people nor do I believe in guilty til proven innocent.

[WRW]

Well, there was a delay between the first delivery and the second, so it would seem that we did do it again even after seeing the bomb's effects. Since that time, mutual deterrence has certainly played a considerable role.

My point, in this thread, has been that the religious teachings of lying pretty much negates any profession of peace, friendship, loyalty, etc.

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[MarcSpaz]

I'll agree with that for sure. It is a lot of things, but the religion of peace is not one of them.

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[Viper21]

Bill, I wouldn't go that far... but there is a reason no one else in the world (including us) has done it since. I keep hearing people say we should turn the whole region into a sheet of glass and I don't support that idea. Evidently every world super power, including the bad guys, agree with me.

Now... if we were to say... carpet bomb the caliphate into non-existence, I'm cool with that. I just don't support the genocide of any group of people nor do I believe in guilty til proven innocent.

While I hope we never have to nuke anyone as well..... I'm also, very much aware that our enemies use our own ROE against us. Many fine young men have died as a result. I don't personally believe that just because a young man is willing to enter the fight, that his life means less. I would rather any and all blood be on the hands of our enemies. How many outstanding young men died because they wouldn't kill the "goat herders" during Marcus Lutrell's mission..? There are many similar stories in the military within the last decade.

I'm not advocating careless killing of innocents but, I care more about our people, (Americans & those on our team) than anyone else period. We will never negotiate a peace with these nut jobs. We will never negotiate a desire to disagree but be peaceful with each other. The nut jobs in the desert only understand one language: Blood. They only ask one question: Yours or mine ? We will only achieve peace with them as a whole by, stomping a mud hole in em. By forcing other nations that support them covertly, to choose sides, & prevent them from waging war against the rest of us. Anything short of a forced submission will be in vain in my opinion. Until that happens, we will continue to see attacks against civilians, & proud parents will continue to receive folded flags. I just pray I never receive one of those flags......

[MarcSpaz]

The world has been defending itself from Muslims, fighting full blown wars, for near 1400 years. I feel like if we keep doing the things we have been, it won't change for another 1400 years. Today is the modern Crusade. As in the past, the good must slay the evil. Not as the agressor, but as the defender. That won't happen with a Lib in the White House. Barry won't admit they are our enemy, because they are not his enemy.

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