From the GOA:
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Friday, October 23, 2009
Congratulations!
You have stymied the shady tactics used by Barack Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi to try to pass the ObamaCare bill and -- in the opening salvo of the battle -- you blew them out of the water.
Gun Owners won a huge vote Wednesday in the Senate.
As you remember, the ObamaCare bill would dump your gun-related health data into a federal database. It would also put your (government mandated) insurance at risk if you keep a loaded gun for self-defense.
But there was a problem: The anti-gun health bills cost too much, and Obama had promised to pass a bill which would not raise the deficit by "one penny."
So what Obama, Reid, and Pelosi did was to try to pass a separate bill (S. 1776) which would fund the anti-gun ObamaCare bill by raising the deficit another $247 billion dollars.
But, they would argue, because S. 1776 was a "separate bill," the ObamaCare bill itself would not raise the deficit.
In a Senate not known for morality, this rose to a level of sleaze and corruption that embarrassed many Democrats, in addition to all Republicans.
With gun owners responding vigorously to our alerts on this issue, the motion to invoke "cloture" (or shut off debate) on the bill failed by a 47-53 vote -- 13 votes short of the 60 votes the anti-gun socialists needed.
The victory on S. 1776 means that it will be much harder for Obama, Reid and Pelosi to pick up the somewhat fiscally-minded Blue Dog Democrats they so desperately need to get their anti-gun ObamaCare legislation passed.
So congratulations! It is true that this is only the first battle... but, if we continue battering Congress as we have, it will be the first of many victories.
To see the official listing of how each Senator voted, you can go to http://tinyurl.com/ykb6kjb.
But in the meantime, pat yourself on the back for a job well done... and have a great weekend!
Gun Owners Win the Opening Battle on ObamaCare!
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Re: Gun Owners Win the Opening Battle on ObamaCare!
I'm impressed. Warner and Webb went along to nix closing debate...Perhaps there is some redemption for them...NOT
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...


Re: Gun Owners Win the Opening Battle on ObamaCare!
Thanks, for the update. Good news!
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Zephyp wrote
Warner is one of the electronic records supporters ,,at least he has said so in his many return emails to me.,.. He bears watching closely .. The Fed has no damn business with our medical or just about any other personal information for that matter.."I'm impressed. Warner and Webb went along to nix closing debate...Perhaps there is some redemption for them...NOT"
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This is one area where I'm a so called government expert. Suffice it to say I do not want Uncle to have any more of my personal information. They already have my life and work history. That should be enough.VBshooter wrote:Zephyp wroteWarner is one of the electronic records supporters ,,at least he has said so in his many return emails to me.,.. He bears watching closely .. The Fed has no damn business with our medical or just about any other personal information for that matter.."I'm impressed. Warner and Webb went along to nix closing debate...Perhaps there is some redemption for them...NOT"
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...


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Re: Gun Owners Win the Opening Battle on ObamaCare!
Both Warner and Webb voted for national reciprocity. Warner's record on 2nd amendment issues isn't great, but Webb seems like a standup guy on this issue. He not only voted for it, but he took to the floor of the senate to encourage others to do so as well.zephyp wrote:I'm impressed. Warner and Webb went along to nix closing debate...Perhaps there is some redemption for them...NOT
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I dont think either of them are standup guys on anything much other than liberalism. Most people think the reciprocity vote was rigged anyway so a few dems could vote for it just to make a show.LFS wrote:Both Warner and Webb voted for national reciprocity. Warner's record on 2nd amendment issues isn't great, but Webb seems like a standup guy on this issue. He not only voted for it, but he took to the floor of the senate to encourage others to do so as well.zephyp wrote:I'm impressed. Warner and Webb went along to nix closing debate...Perhaps there is some redemption for them...NOT
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...


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Everything I have read points to it being a rigged vote!
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