Vanderboegh to Conn. state police: 'you are not the enemy'

[allingeneral]

Several weeks ago gun rights activist and blogger Mike Vanderboegh received a hand-delivered notice from the state of Connecticut via the local sheriff's department in his county in Alabama. The notice asked that Vanderboegh call the Connecticut State Police to answer questions concerning his advocacy for gun rights and his support for civil disobedience among residents who resist the state's new draconian gun restriction laws.

In the weeks since that letter was delivered Vanderboegh has become aware that he is the subject of an investigation being conducted by the Connecticut State Police.

But the major news coming out of Connecticut goes far beyond Vanderboegh's advocacy of citizen resistance. Thousands of residents are engaging in open civil disobedience, citing that the new laws are unconstitutional and are therefore null and void.

According to Vanderboegh, the growing citizen resistance movement has local Connecticut law enforcement in a state of panic. Apparently they are scared out of their wits that so many citizens are not only vehemently opposed to the new gun control laws but are intent on refusing to obey them.

Read more of the article on Examiner.com: http://www.examiner.com/article/vanderb ... -the-enemy

Here's the letter that was sent to the Conn State Police

[Viper21]

Wow..! That's quite a letter. Pretty blunt & to the point.

I loved the comment from "anonymous": How do you fit your balls in your pants ? LOL

[vonClausewitz]

Don't answer this question...but think about it long and hard...

Are you a member of the 3%? I mean, really...not just an internet message board bravado member...

[Taggure]

I think that he laid it out very clear as to what would happen if they were to try and enforce the un-constitutional law and a shot is fired. From the way he was talking in the letter he may just have the numbers to back up what he is saying. He is very right that this action will not be contained to one state as we have seen in the news the New Yorkers are not liking their crack down one bit either. Look at the new Maryland laws in place as well. The politicians think we are stupid and they know what is best for us but they may son realize that they have waken a sleeping giant that they can no longer contain.

[MarcSpaz]

This guys is mistaken if he thinks only the state police would be involved. Regardless of what federal law says, I have friends in the military and Guard that have independently confirmed that if such an action is commanded, the state and federal military will be responding. They are training for it and expect it.

I think some of the military members will actually do it too. I was arguing with one of them because he seemed to think that its not the place of the people to say if the "law" is Constitutional or not. He said the people would be breaking the law. I said "what if you got deployed to my house?" My friend simply replied... "please don't make me have to shoot you." And this is someone I know personally and friends with. That was the last time I talked to him on that day. I just had to walk away.

[SHMIV]

It's the younger military and LEO that worry me.

Anyone under 40, and wearing a uniform, scares me. They have been raised and trained on leftist propaganda, and I have no way of knowing whose parents were willing or able to counteract that at home.

The older guys don't concern me as much.

My father was telling me about a Maryland Trooper that attended a local funeral that my father officiated; Dad engaged him in a discussion of 2A rights. That Trooper was fairly disgusted at what has happened to the state, as well as its police departments, since he graduated the academy so many moons ago. They guy is a trainer; apparently he trains students to just forget everything they just learned at the academy, reminds them of the oath that they took, and reminds them that they took a job as a public servant. The Trooper turned out to be a strong 2A advocate.

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[BertMacklin]

This guys is mistaken if he thinks only the state police would be involved. Regardless of what federal law says, I have friends in the military and Guard that have independently confirmed that if such an action is commanded, the state and federal military will be responding. They are training for it and expect it.

I think some of the military members will actually do it too. I was arguing with one of them because he seemed to think that its not the place of the people to say if the "law" is Constitutional or not. He said the people would be breaking the law. I said "what if you got deployed to my house?" My friend simply replied... "please don't make me have to shoot you." And this is someone I know personally and friends with. That was the last time I talked to him on that day. I just had to walk away.

See Dormin's post on "Fanatical Right Wing Nonsense..." pockets of resistance, both actual and potential, are being thinned and replaced. Most of the Ex-Military folk I've talked to say they would not commit such acts, the youngest generation of soldiers is a different story however.

Ever go through security at the Fairfax county courthouse? Security there is, or at least was last I checked, very "diverse" and machine like. I was disarmed of a weapon, by their definition, which was in fact a bottle opener. Finding obeying machines won't be difficult.

[AlanM]

I hope you'll forgive me but I just reposted the OP of this thread on the Ohio BFA forum. With a link back to this, of course.
We, meaning all of us that took the oath or believe in it, need to do more of this and stand up and be heard.

[Reverenddel]

As I stated, they'll have about 600k-700k LEO's, and Troops.

We'll have about 1.3 Million insurgents... that can blend into the background, find local support, and know the lay of the land...

They thought 1864 was BAD!?!? Those were SET LINES!!!!

For this reason, I am worried about a 3% start with some of them firing the first shot. In spite of what Vanderboegh wrote. Taken out the targets that caused this issue can cause ever greater issues. It's a matter of waiting for the progressive/commies to take unconstitutional actions, and having SOMEONE report it fairly, and having a bevy of attorneys to defend that person.

[Viper21]

Don't answer this question...but think about it long and hard...

Are you a member of the 3%? I mean, really...not just an internet message board bravado member...

Pretty profound question when you really think about it. Ive thought long and hard about it for awhile now. Ive even asked a few of my friends that are gun owners or claim to be pro 2A. Ive been shocked by the comments, conversations that have followed.

I put it in a similar way too, not the quick.. bravado answer, really thinka bout it man.... what would YOU do..?! The most common answer Ive gotten is, "I don't know", usually followed by, I'd have to be in that situation to answer truthfully. I only had 1 friend out of several I asked, answer... I would fight, & or die for it. Most people default to, depends if my kids were home, etc..

For a lot of people on the fence.....meaning, they agree in principle but are skeptical when it comes to actually.... you know... being killed, etc. I think it would depend on how the first few situations went. You can bet it will be all over the news if/when it happens.

I'll be shocked if it actually happens in the next 20-30yrs. Just like I told one of my buddies.... I have a tinfoil hat too, I just think his is a heavier gauge tinfoil than mine

[mamabearCali]

I hope this is a long way off. This is just my opinion, but it seems to me that the leftist communists may have bitten off more than they can chew on this one. The moved too fast and took too much. Therefore people noticed and told them to stuff it. Now if they get even more stupid and try to enforce it things could get nasty.

For my part on the 3%. I tend to take a woman's view on fighting. That is historically women could not over power men or defeat them outright. So we got sneaky, sly, and found ways to obfuscate and confound. I am not certain one goes out in a blaze of glory. There will be a few like that, of course.

But I take a long view. Use your head, don't die unless you must. For every technology there is to find something there is a way to hide something. Obfuscate, hide, frustrate, smuggle, and yes, sabotage. Be smart. Think. If you know that they know that there are guns in the house....move them and replace with legal equivalent air guns or bb guns (so that there is something to find and they don't keep destroying your home). A fire fight will get all killed. Be smart. Think of ways to throw cogs into the machinery. Technology can be your friend or foe--make it work for you.

When the nazi's were rounding up the Jews in Norway they were using dogs to find the people. Those sailors smuggling the Jews used cocaine laced handkerchiefs to anesthetize the dogs nose. They rubbed raw meat on the handkerchief then when the dog went to smell it...it could not smell anything for an hour or two. If we really get into this that is how we have to think.

[kelu]

Now imagine that is something like this happens, Russia will send help like US sends help (money and armament) to Syrian rebels
That would be something ironic.

[jgreiner]

This guys is mistaken if he thinks only the state police would be involved. Regardless of what federal law says, I have friends in the military and Guard that have independently confirmed that if such an action is commanded, the state and federal military will be responding. They are training for it and expect it.

I think some of the military members will actually do it too. I was arguing with one of them because he seemed to think that its not the place of the people to say if the "law" is Constitutional or not. He said the people would be breaking the law. I said "what if you got deployed to my house?" My friend simply replied... "please don't make me have to shoot you." And this is someone I know personally and friends with. That was the last time I talked to him on that day. I just had to walk away.

Military members like that worry me greatly. They need to study the constitution.