A Mystery: Do prison bars cause this kind of damage?

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A Mystery: Do prison bars cause this kind of damage?

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I am wondering if anyone has any ideas as to what caused the dings in my Sig. This was a prison guard issue before it was retired into my care. Do you think it was used as a hammer? Or maybe it was run up and down the prison bars? OR maybe it was used to punch some dude in his grill and the diamond in his front right tooth caused it. Educated (or other) guesses anyone?
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Sweetpea wrote:OR maybe it was used to punch some dude in his grill and the diamond in his front right tooth caused it.
1) Greatest. Post. EVER
2)That's the most likely option....or maybe it just bumped the bars every once in awhile. I still like your guess better. I say bumped btw because most of the damage is on the grip and trigger guard and if he was right handed the damage would be on the right side of the gun if he bumped the bars or rails. Look at the other side of the gun and if it has less or no wear then it was probably carried by a right handed officer.

Also could just be wear from removing and inserting it into the holster. Many options.
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Re: A Mystery: Do prison bars cause this kind of damage?

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Hey those look like diamond thug tooth chips to me... :clap:
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Re: A Mystery: Do prison bars cause this kind of damage?

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Just a guess, but I would think keys being dropped on it.
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I think you can rule out the prison bars, VA State prisons and the federal prisons I've been to do not allow firearms in areas where the prisoners are. The only time a prisoner is within reach of someone with a firearm is during transport. I'd assume most other prisons are the same way. I would agree with the keys being dropped on it or the pistol itself being dropped at some point.
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WRW wrote:Just a guess, but I would think keys being dropped on it.
That would be my guess as well, unless it was exposed to a chemical that lifted the paint or caused some kind of pitting.
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If you find someone that you trust to strip this weapon down it can be re painted and look brand new. Altho the stories that you can make up for it might be more fun.
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What about using something like this to touch it up with a Q-tip?

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If you truly want it back to original ,send it back to SIG,,,At the bottom of this link page is another link to SIGs price list of services,,,They offer refinishing and a lot more,,,
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allingeneral wrote:What about using something like this to touch it up with a Q-tip?

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Doesn't look like it's blued to me, but I could be wrong. I've never handled a Sig so I don't know what finishes they use.
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At the regional jail where I now work, everything is computer operated doors.
You'd be pressed to bars. Keys make sense but, man, that would be annoying to hear
all day. I wish we used Sigs. If we do carry, it's Glocks.
The only time we do carry is when you're transporting, court duty, and the like.
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If it's a coating ,the older Sigs had K Coat,,the newer Nitron, If it;s blued it could be redone too
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wbtrunx wrote:At the regional jail where I now work, everything is computer operated doors.
You'd be pressed to bars. Keys make sense but, man, that would be annoying to hear
all day. I wish we used Sigs. If we do carry, it's Glocks.
The only time we do carry is when you're transporting, court duty, and the like.
I believe the thought with the kys is that they were dropped on the pistol while it was laying on a counter. My son works at Coffeewood. According to him they have S&W revolvers, not sure which one though. They carry those for transport and have shotguns and AR's for the towers. The state is "supposed" to be offering the revolvers for sale to the CO's soon, he hasn't said what they are replacing them with. I'm looking to get one of the revolvers when it happens though. :clap:
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SgtBill wrote:If you find someone that you trust to strip this weapon down it can be re painted and look brand new. Altho the stories that you can make up for it might be more fun.
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Yeah, I am fine with it the way it is. It functions BEAUTIFULLY and the stories I can make up are a bonus! :) It came from the prison system in Oregon. My relative was the armorer there for a long time. I don't know what they replaced the sigs with.
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Those scratches are not from hitting someone. Most likely the entire Dept. bought new sidearm's and an armorer stripped apart all the old ones i.e. frames in one bin, slides in another, etc. etc. to assess the the levels of wear. Your frame is scratched like that because it was tossed in a bin and rubbed against other frames.

Yours could be built with a mix of better parts but, you could also have a mix of bad ones to. Just depends where you bought it.
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Sweetpea wrote:
SgtBill wrote:If you find someone that you trust to strip this weapon down it can be re painted and look brand new. Altho the stories that you can make up for it might be more fun.
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Yeah, I am fine with it the way it is. It functions BEAUTIFULLY and the stories I can make up are a bonus! :) It came from the prison system in Oregon. My relative was the armorer there for a long time. I don't know what they replaced the sigs with.
Just don't say you hit a Thug in oregon, I'd be surprised to know they had them there too. :hysterical:
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40shooter wrote:
Sweetpea wrote:
SgtBill wrote:If you find someone that you trust to strip this weapon down it can be re painted and look brand new. Altho the stories that you can make up for it might be more fun.
Bill
Yeah, I am fine with it the way it is. It functions BEAUTIFULLY and the stories I can make up are a bonus! :) It came from the prison system in Oregon. My relative was the armorer there for a long time. I don't know what they replaced the sigs with.
Just don't say you hit a Thug in oregon, I'd be surprised to know they had them there too. :hysterical:
They have a gang problem in Alaska....why not Oregon too?
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RJames wrote:Those scratches are not from hitting someone. Most likely the entire Dept. bought new sidearm's and an armorer stripped apart all the old ones i.e. frames in one bin, slides in another, etc. etc. to assess the the levels of wear. Your frame is scratched like that because it was tossed in a bin and rubbed against other frames.

Yours could be built with a mix of better parts but, you could also have a mix of bad ones to. Just depends where you bought it.

This statement makes no sense at all. Why would an armourer strip apart all the weapons and put the parts in seperated bins and then put the weapons back together again. For one thing all the weapons have hand fitted parts that have to be filed,stoned or any number of other fitting proceedures.

you don't assess any level of wear on traded in weapons, that is on the vendor that is getting them.

Sweetpea, don't let the above statement's bother you your gun is fine. Enjoy it !
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SgtBill wrote:
RJames wrote:Those scratches are not from hitting someone. Most likely the entire Dept. bought new sidearm's and an armorer stripped apart all the old ones i.e. frames in one bin, slides in another, etc. etc. to assess the the levels of wear. Your frame is scratched like that because it was tossed in a bin and rubbed against other frames.

Yours could be built with a mix of better parts but, you could also have a mix of bad ones to. Just depends where you bought it.

This statement makes no sense at all. Why would an armourer strip apart all the weapons and put the parts in seperated bins and then put the weapons back together again. For one thing all the weapons have hand fitted parts that have to be filed,stoned or any number of other fitting proceedures.

you don't assess any level of wear on traded in weapons, that is on the vendor that is getting them.

Sweetpea, don't let the above statement's bother you your gun is fine. Enjoy it !
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Hey, it sounded good to me all the way up to the last paragraph. But, then, I'm not an armorer and never have been :roll:
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