Did we just hit the tipping point?

[PhantomPhixer]

Talk about a whirlwind couple of weeks, regarding the whole BHO / Benghazi / IRS scandal in the making. Could the media finally be starting to wake up? It feels like there is a tidal shift happening in the country...dare I hope that the outcry will finally put a stop to this administration?

- Fast & furious
- Czars
- Obamacare
- Supreme Court upholding Obamacare / calling it a tax
- Unconstitutional recess appointments
- Gun Control efforts
- Dropping the ball on terrorism
- Falsified birth certificate / SSN, Kenyan birth certificate just admitted as evidence in Alabama court case
- Partial birth abortion support
- Gay marriage
- Benghazi coverup
- Seal Team 6 exposure
- IRS targeting of conservatives
- Economic ruin / class warfare
- Drones


It's a staggering list of offenses, and I'm probably forgetting some!

[KaosDad]

Nothing in your list makes a difference unless it makes people mad enough to get off their a$$ and VOTE. What was the number for the last Presidential election? Something like 30MM registered Republicans didn't vote at all. Like their tactics or not the Dems know how to get people into the voting booth - yes, illegally much of the time. But the right leaning folks need to be able to do the same thing.

[dorminWS]

Nothing in your list makes a difference unless it makes people mad enough to get off their a$$ and VOTE. What was the number for the last Presidential election? Something like 30MM registered Republicans didn't vote at all. Like their tactics or not the Dems know how to get people into the voting booth - yes, illegally much of the time. But the right leaning folks need to be able to do the same thing.

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You are right, of course. But the encouraging thing at this point is that the BHO machine has just bitten the hand that has fed them by seizing the AP e-mails.

So perhaps the press will be sufficiently alienated by having BHO's apparatus treat them as the whores they have in fact been to motivate them to quit ignoring his outrages and peccadilloes.

If the heretofore complicit press will now just tell the truth on him, it will do the country a world of good, and may motivate the casting of a few informed votes.

[PhantomPhixer]

Peccadilloes? I'm gonna look that up...

[WRW]

Bah! The AP may harden their stance to "pussyfooting" around "the first black president" (their words, not mine), but that seems to be about their limit. Now, if Congress begins talks on limiting 1st amendment rights...

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[dorminWS]

Bah! The AP may harden their stance to "pussyfooting" around "the first black president" (their words, not mine), but that seems to be about their limit. Now, if Congress begins talks on limiting 1st amendment rights...

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Maybe. But then again, here was the AP thinking all along they were PART of the anointed rulers and diligently carrying water for Obama, and suddenly they find they've been treated like lowly, contemptible conservatives. Can you imagine how outraged they must be?

[PhantomPhixer]

It would be the first time the news media has turned on a liberal President in my lifetime. Sitting on the edge of my seat to see how this plays out. It's fair to point out that at least 5 items on that list have come to light since the election. If the vote were today, would the election have turned out the same?

[WRW]

Oh hell, dormin, it was just some low level Justice Dept. employees doing the surveillance. Why should the AP be upset about that?

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[Taggure]

Bah! The AP may harden their stance to "pussyfooting" around "the first black president" (their words, not mine), but that seems to be about their limit. Now, if Congress begins talks on limiting 1st amendment rights...

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Maybe. But then again, here was the AP thinking all along they were PART of the anointed rulers and diligently carrying water for Obama, and suddenly they find they've been treated like lowly, contemptible conservatives. Can you imagine how outraged they must be?

Nope they are going to roll over and say give it to me again like nothing ever happened just like sheep to slaughter

[thekinetic]

Gay marriage is on that list, really? I hardly think it belongs anywhere near a list with partial birth abortion and government corruption and coverups. O_o

That fight's been going on long before ol' bama took office but if it gets him out of office then fine I've lived without it this long anyway.

But yes perhaps the country is finally waking up!

[grumpyMSG]

- Fast & furious was out there before the election, didn't seem to change anything.
- Czars he has been using them since before the election, nobody seems to care enough.
- Obamacare it cost a lot of Democrat seats, flopped the house to the Republicans.
- Supreme Court upholding Obamacare / calling it a tax I don't agree with it, but it is the law of the land at the moment.
- Unconstitutional recess appointments That has yet to be completely resolved. I am waiting to see how the secondary case turn out. It would appear that the ruling basically says "With modern transportation/ communication, you don't need the ability anymore. Congress meets year round now, unlike when representatives had to travel by horse and train from their districts to DC.
- Gun Control efforts America is almost Bi-polar on gun control. I am from the western half of the state where most homes have a few firearms, at least a .22 and a 12 gauge. Even the small cities around here have less firearm ownership than the rural areas. The bottom line is the more densely packed the population is, the less likely that population will support gun ownership.
- Dropping the ball on terrorism Most Americans are not affected by terrorism, it is something that happens on the news. Here in VA we had the DC sniper who terrorized northern VA, DC and MD. It had little to no impact on the rest of the state. We also had the VaTech shooting, it was the act of a crazy person and over in a morning. It wasn't really terrorism, which is used to create fear and hysteria in the population. Truly effective terrorism changes a population's behavior patterns.
- Falsified birth certificate / SSN, Kenyan birth certificate just admitted as evidence in Alabama court case It hasn't done a lick of good yet, why would you think it would do any now?
- Partial birth abortion support He has been an ardent supporter since before the election, the mainstream media continues to support the position and denigrate anybody who doesn't agree.
- Gay marriage I don't think gay marriage matters to most Americans, it doesn't impact them. The two groups (I think) who do care are gays and those with strong religious beliefs. Both groups have picked sides for the most part and will vote the party line 90+% of the time.
- Benghazi coverup People knew it was a mess and he still got re-elected. Unless something wipes out half of the Senate's Democratic caucus nothing can happen. The house will look like a group of partisan hacks over and over. They can do everything required to start the impeachment process, but without the support of the mainstream media riling up mainstream America to push for impeachment, it won't fly. It will just help Republicans to keep from getting elected.
- Seal Team 6 exposure Military units are given credit/ blame for actions all the time. If you are talking about the Chinook shootdown in Afghanistan, that was more a random luck type of thing. They were being sent to assist a unit under fire. There are no markings on an aircraft that says "SEAL team 6 on board". To the jihadi on the ground, the most he could ever tell was what unit the aircraft belonged to. If people went to the home station of the "XYZ unit" and started killing folks in that area, you could blame him.
- IRS targeting of conservatives They did it during the Clinton administration and I wouldn't be shocked if the high level appointees during a Republican administration did something similar.
- Economic ruin / class warfare Mitt Romney talked about the 47% in that Mother Jones video, not everybody who slips into the no taxes group aspire to stay there, but a large part of them do. Some folks seem to be perfectly happy not working very much, not having very much, but like getting a lot for free.
- Drones My impression is that some of the left hates the drones more than most Americans. Where I find the humor is their willingness to look the other way because Barak Obama controls who they are targeting.

Politics in America is like a pendulum, swinging from left to right and back. Now that the media (AP) has been investigated by the Democratically run Justice Department, maybe they will turn on Barak Obama. The IRS went after the various Tea Party organizations. Looking at history, Hollywood's slow shift to the left came after the McCarthy communist witch hunts. Maybe this will start it. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.

[OakRidgeStars]

Does anyone believe that the GOP will pull their heads out of their asses long enough to turn this into a victory in next year's mid-terms?

Yeah, me either

[PhantomPhixer]

Sad but true. My hope is for a Tea Party resurgence. Look what just happened in England, of all places with the UKIP.

[tommy610]

Sad but true. My hope is for a Tea Party resurgence. Look what just happened in England, of all places with the UKIP.

I, frankly, am not up to speed on all Tea Party positions, but I know enough about it to realize they have my interests in mind far beyond ANY other party. Maybe if their time and money can be freed up from dealing with IRS demands, there will be a big resurgence.

[scott9050]

Well global warming is getting ready to be proven a farce.

From Accuweather today:

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-b ... r/12406079

One visceral reaction is to say 'get used to it.' As the Pacific remains in its cold cycle, and the sun becomes less active as it heads back to the bottom of the 11-year sunspot cycle and the Atlantic approaches the end of its warm run, the stage is set for more reluctant springs in the years ahead and probably shorter growing seasons as the planet heads into a cooler regime. But I'll save that discussion for another time and another place.

[Kreutz]

Global warming (and conversely global cooling) are real, it's just certain vocal people have hijacked earths natural cycles for their own ends.

This planet has been from ball of magma to a ball of ice and everything in between. Won't stop until the sun goes red giant and torches the whole thing.

[gunderwood]

I suspect the real reporting of the various scandals has only started because the press learned about the Administration coming after the AP. It's a lovers quarrel, nothing more.

[OldEagle]

I suspect the real reporting of the various scandals has only started because the press learned about the Administration coming after the AP. It's a lovers quarrel, nothing more.

I'm not so sure this is true. I spent decades in federal service. Military, civil service, federal LEO, etc. contain many honest, highly dedicated and capable people. They've been held down, though many know what is going on--and it's bad across agencies. I think the tipping point was when the deputy chief of mission from Libya testified. Think of his testimony as "I am Spartacus". We'll see if more stand up...

[gunderwood]

I suspect the real reporting of the various scandals has only started because the press learned about the Administration coming after the AP. It's a lovers quarrel, nothing more.

I'm not so sure this is true. I spent decades in federal service. Military, civil service, federal LEO, etc. contain many honest, highly dedicated and capable people. They've been held down, though many know what is going on--and it's bad across agencies. I think the tipping point was when the deputy chief of mission from Libya testified. Think of his testimony as "I am Spartacus". We'll see if more stand up...

reporting = media not whistleblowers.

[thekinetic]

Global warming (and conversely global cooling) are real, it's just certain vocal people have hijacked earths natural cycles for their own ends.

This planet has been from ball of magma to a ball of ice and everything in between. Won't stop until the sun goes red giant and torches the whole thing.

Finally someone with some reasonable sense. We do in fact live under a pulsar and the earth invariably gets warmer and cooler as it goes through it's highs and lows.