Pan handler tries to stab concealed carry holder in NOVA
Pan handler tries to stab concealed carry holder in NOVA
I think we all know how this turned out:
http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2012/ma ... r-1937183/
STAFFORD — A 29-year-old man was fatally shot Tuesday night by a driver he attempted to stab, according to the Stafford County Sheriff's Office.
Christopher Rigby of no fixed address, died following an altercation with the driver, who had refused to give Rigby money, according to Bill Kennedy, public information officer for the sheriff's office.
At about 11 p.m., police received a 911 call from a woman who said she was with a man who just shot another man who attacked him with a knife. The woman said they were located in the parking lot of Earl’s True Value Hardware at 300 Chatham Heights Road in Falmouth, Kennedy said.
When police arrived two minutes later, a man was lying on the ground suffering from a gunshot wound.
A knife was on the ground, police said, and the shooter was standing nearby and surrendered.
Rigby was taken to Mary Washington Hospital in Fredericksburg where he was pronounced dead.
According to a police report, the alleged shooter and the woman told detectives they were in a car talking when they saw two men walking across the parking lot.
One of the men, Rigby, asked for money and he was declined.
About 15 minutes later, the couple saw Rigby again when he approached the driver’s side door in what they described as an aggressive manner, attempting to stab the driver.
The driver retrieved a handgun from the glovebox, police said, and fired.
He told police he then told the woman to call 911.
The second man with Rigby, who they said did not participate in the attack, left the area on foot.
The driver was not seriously injured but had fresh wounds consistent with a struggle, police said.
Police later identified Rigby and Wednesday morning, located the second man who fled.
He said that Rigby, a friend of his, became increasingly enraged over being denied money and returned to seek revenge. He said that Rigby was the aggressor, police said.
The man who shot Rigby had a valid concealed weapons permit, police determined.
No charges have been filed. The case is still under investigation, police said.
http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2012/ma ... r-1937183/
STAFFORD — A 29-year-old man was fatally shot Tuesday night by a driver he attempted to stab, according to the Stafford County Sheriff's Office.
Christopher Rigby of no fixed address, died following an altercation with the driver, who had refused to give Rigby money, according to Bill Kennedy, public information officer for the sheriff's office.
At about 11 p.m., police received a 911 call from a woman who said she was with a man who just shot another man who attacked him with a knife. The woman said they were located in the parking lot of Earl’s True Value Hardware at 300 Chatham Heights Road in Falmouth, Kennedy said.
When police arrived two minutes later, a man was lying on the ground suffering from a gunshot wound.
A knife was on the ground, police said, and the shooter was standing nearby and surrendered.
Rigby was taken to Mary Washington Hospital in Fredericksburg where he was pronounced dead.
According to a police report, the alleged shooter and the woman told detectives they were in a car talking when they saw two men walking across the parking lot.
One of the men, Rigby, asked for money and he was declined.
About 15 minutes later, the couple saw Rigby again when he approached the driver’s side door in what they described as an aggressive manner, attempting to stab the driver.
The driver retrieved a handgun from the glovebox, police said, and fired.
He told police he then told the woman to call 911.
The second man with Rigby, who they said did not participate in the attack, left the area on foot.
The driver was not seriously injured but had fresh wounds consistent with a struggle, police said.
Police later identified Rigby and Wednesday morning, located the second man who fled.
He said that Rigby, a friend of his, became increasingly enraged over being denied money and returned to seek revenge. He said that Rigby was the aggressor, police said.
The man who shot Rigby had a valid concealed weapons permit, police determined.
No charges have been filed. The case is still under investigation, police said.

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Wow that is scary, from a woman's perspective. I can imagine having my kids in the car. I am glad the man was able to defend himself from the enraged man. I have a sneaking suspicion that this is going to happen more and more.
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Pan handler tries to stab concealed carry holder in NOVA
Thanks for sharing sir! Maybe the next one will think twice about trying some crap like this.
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Surely you jest!scrubber3 wrote:Maybe the next one will think twice about trying some crap like this.
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The headline in the print version of the Free Lance-Star blares "$1 snub leads to slaying".
As is typical for this rag they blame the shooter. It wasn't the snub by the shooter that led to the slaying, it was the knife attack by the dead guy.
As is typical for this rag they blame the shooter. It wasn't the snub by the shooter that led to the slaying, it was the knife attack by the dead guy.
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Indeed. I agree with that, and in a normal and healthy society, so would the rest of the world. But, as it is, I'm sure the media will wonder why a man in a car wouldn't just drive away from a guy with a knife.NewColonial wrote:
It wasn't the snub by the shooter that led to the slaying, it was the knife attack by the dead guy.
I just hope that the money that tax-payers saved on trying the guy with the knife doesn't get wasted on trying the guy with the gun.
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I read the hard print edition early this morning without full benefit of coffee but I think it used a lot harsher terms than the current online edition at Fredericksburg.com. The printed edition depicted the shooter as the slayer and the assailant as the victim. The online version is now referring to the knife-wielding assailant as "the shooting victim" instead of just "victim" and they are putting that in the context of a witness quote. They are also saying "killed" instead of "slayed." It seems to be more than time-driven editing oversights because the incident happened on Tuesday and the paper didn't publish the story until Thursday. The online story time stamp is 12:03 am. I'm not sure which edition would be earlier.
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... And the story quotes the Sherriff as saying that he thought that "alcohol played a part in the incident." Readers might like to know who was drinking. The man, woman, subject, witness, police officers, journalist, editor, or publishers?
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When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
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That is a good point Shotgun Blast.
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thats what happens when you bring a knife to a gunfight. one less scumbag to take what isn't his.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Remington wrote:I read the hard print edition early this morning without full benefit of coffee but I think it used a lot harsher terms than the current online edition at Fredericksburg.com. The printed edition depicted the shooter as the slayer and the assailant as the victim. The online version is now referring to the knife-wielding assailant as "the shooting victim" instead of just "victim" and they are putting that in the context of a witness quote. They are also saying "killed" instead of "slayed." It seems to be more than time-driven editing oversights because the incident happened on Tuesday and the paper didn't publish the story until Thursday. The online story time stamp is 12:03 am. I'm not sure which edition would be earlier.
Did the newspaper really use the word "slayed"?
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What I remember most clearly is the story headline that "$1 snub leads to slaying" that New Colonial referred to in a previous comment. The printed edition is markedly different than the online edition.
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I like what my dad did the last time one came up to him, he gave a hard look and said "get the hell away from my truck". He's worked in construction his entire life and has little to no tolerance for panhandlers.
So good for the shooter!
So good for the shooter!
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Remington wrote:I read the hard print edition early this morning without full benefit of coffee but I think it used a lot harsher terms than the current online edition at Fredericksburg.com. The printed edition depicted the shooter as the slayer and the assailant as the victim. The online version is now referring to the knife-wielding assailant as "the shooting victim" instead of just "victim" and they are putting that in the context of a witness quote. They are also saying "killed" instead of "slayed." It seems to be more than time-driven editing oversights because the incident happened on Tuesday and the paper didn't publish the story until Thursday. The online story time stamp is 12:03 am. I'm not sure which edition would be earlier.
I just thought that both of your points here deserved to be quoted and saved and pointed at again.Remington wrote:... And the story quotes the Sherriff as saying that he thought that "alcohol played a part in the incident." Readers might like to know who was drinking. The man, woman, subject, witness, police officers, journalist, editor, or publishers?
Calling the dead guy the "Victim" here is a stretch. He was a victim of his own idiocy, perhaps...but misrepresentation of the word victim is quickly gaining precedence on my list of pet peeves.
I'll even take that a step further and suggest that perhaps the words "Dealt with" would be more appropriate instead of "Slayed" or "Killed"
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We always used the word "perpetrator" in our police reports.
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Alright - that works for me... So, the newspaper article title should be "Knife-Wielding Perpetrator Dealt With"Remington wrote:We always used the word "perpetrator" in our police reports.
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