VA-ALERT: Who needs a gun in Norfolk? (Might Want to Read!)

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VA-ALERT: Who needs a gun in Norfolk?
Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:44 AM

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It took 3 tries to get through to 9-1-1 and I'm thinking the Virginian-Pilot now has two employees who might be in the market to get a CHP.

Some thoughts about this story from a self-defense point of view:

1. If you are in a vehicle and can speed away from danger, do it! Certainly don't confront a mob!

2. Don't bet your life that 9-1-1 will save you - even a one minute wait could be fatal. Your best bet is to be ready and able to defend your own life at all times.

From WND.com: http://tinyurl.com/8axg86m

100 blacks beat white couple, media bury attack

'That is sad and disgusting. Someone should be fired or resign'

Published: 2 hours ago
by Joe KovacsEmail | Archive

There’s outrage in Norfolk, Va., today after a white couple was attacked by a group of 100 black teenagers, and the local newspaper did not report on the incident for two weeks, despite the victims being employees of the paper.

Even today, the Virginian-Pilot did not cover the crime as news, but rather as an opinion piece by columnist Michelle Washington.

“Wave after wave of young men surged forward to take turns punching and kicking their victim,” Washington wrote, describing the onslaught that began when Dave Forster and Marjon Rostami stopped at a red light while driving home from a show on a Saturday night. A crowd of at least 100 black young people was on the sidewalk.

“Rostami locked her car door. Someone threw a rock at her window. Forster got out to confront the rock-thrower, and that’s when the beating began. …

“The victim’s friend, a young woman, tried to pull him back into his car. Attackers came after her, pulling her hair, punching her head and causing a bloody scratch to the surface of her eye. She called 911. A recording told her all lines were busy. She called again. Busy. On her third try, she got through and, hysterical, could scream only their location. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. It happened four blocks from where they work, here at the Virginian-Pilot.”

Washington says neither suffered grave injuries, but both were out of work for a week. Forster’s torso ached from blows to his ribs, and he retained a thumb-sized bump on his head. Rostami reportedly fears to be alone in her home., while Forster wishes he’d stayed in the car.

The columnist admits the story has not, until today, appeared in the Virginian-Pilot.

“The responding officer coded the incident as a simple assault, despite their assertions that at least 30 people had participated in the attack,” Washington explains. “A reporter making routine checks of police reports would see ‘simple assault’ and, if the names were unfamiliar, would be unlikely to write about it. In this case, editors hesitated to assign a story about their own employees. Would it seem like the paper treated its employees differently from other crime victims?”

Washington says the day after the beatings, Forster searched Twitter for mention of the attack, and one post in particular chilled him.

“I feel for the white man who got beat up at the light,” wrote one person.

“I don’t,” wrote another, indicating laughter. “(do it for trayvon martin)”

Trayvon Martin, is the unarmed black teen, who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident.

The newspaper is coming under heavy criticism today from residents in the greater Norfolk area, known as Hampton Roads.

“It is unbelievable that the Virginian-Pilot would BURY this story for two weeks for politically correct reasons. That is sad and disgusting,” said David Englert of Norfolk. “Someone should be fired or resign over the decision not to report this attack. It is a sad enough commentary on our society and community to read about how the responding police viewed this crime, but for our only newspaper to decide that they will hide from the truth rather than report the truth is PATHETIC! Any attack by a mob of people on any innocent victim should be put under a bright spotlight for all involved to be judged and exposed as appropriate, and to make sure that the criminal justice system does its job to protect those who obey the law.” [PVC: Hah - don't hold your breath for anyone to be fired. When a reporter lied about what I said in an interview and was caught red-handed, the Pilot ignored the situation.]

William Tabor of Chesapeake, Va., complained: “Surely the Pilot knew about it. A racially motivated attack is certainly news. Was it not politically correct enough to be reported? Is civilization suspended in Norfolk after dark? If we can’t rely on the police for protection, and our [news] media fails to warn us of such hazards, we can only rely on ourselves.”

Charles Chandler of Norfolk indicated: “I am not sure what I am angrier about. This story, or the crowd of black teens who needlessly and thoughtlessly beat two white victims. Or am I just angry that this still occurs in the year 2012. Nearly fifty years after the marches and the speeches and the declaration of civil liberties for all people. Clearly we are nowhere near the dream Dr. King envisioned. I am angry. I am angry at the calloused cop who stated “this is what they do”. I am angry at the Pilot for hiding it under a bushel.”

And Douglas Gaynor of Virginia Beach brought up the need for self-defense, saying, “If the young lady was armed and trained, she could have whipped out P345 and taken out a few thugs.”

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I have to agree with option 1.

1. If you are in a vehicle and can speed away from danger, do it! Certainly don't confront a mob!

To heck with the light and the damage just get the heck out of there and get to safety. His first mistake was getting out of the car to confront the individuals.

There are so many things that went wrong here that you knew something bad was going to happen.

Where is the Out Cry about this

If the individual had been a CHP and used it to defend himself and his passenger would that have been justified here in the state of Virginia? He did get out to confront them, so I am not sure.

Vern

[dragonzfury050]

I got to tell you, this gives me the warm and fuzzies about going to commencment in Norfolk this weekend

[allingeneral]

He definitely should have stayed in his car and left the area, then called his insurance company the next day to have his window replaced.

My problem here is the "Mob mentality" that has seemed to overcome a lot of people. We've all seen in the news when people get trampled trying to get into a store that's having a big sale. We've all heard of mobs running into convenience stores and taking anything they want, then running out. Being part of a mob gives everyone involved a sense of security (I won't get caught because there are 35 of us) and a sense of discretion (I won't get caught because they'll never recognize me out of the other 34 of us that are in there.)

Clearly, it's illegal to enter a store and steal something. Perhaps there should be an added paragraph that says "if done so as part of a mob, it will be considered a Class 6 Felony".

This mob mentality has got to be dealt with...now.

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This should be national news... CNN stuff along with a blurb on why our second amendment right to keep and bear arms is so important. Not just when it was written, but in posterity.

Someone should be doing news releases to every major network in the country along with a blurb on 2A and police protection.

I can tell you that they didn't help us out when we had a gun pointed in my face in Orlando a few years ago. Broad daylight. Druggie. Right by Mickey's place.

We had an attempted home invasion more recently (we live in a great area, seriously) by two armed bad guys.... I as much as told the 911 operator that if they breached my front door and made it over the threshold that they would be leaving feet first.

Cops showed up in a jiffy.... they were parked all over my front lawn!