Guns CAN be used for discipline

Post by **OakRidgeStars** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:25:23

Here endeth the lesson for today

dorminWS · Post by **dorminWS** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:15:09

Let me rephrase that message:

"OK, Hannah, I'm going to punish you by destroying a $1,000 or so laptop that I paid for and will one day have to replace if you stay in school. Your main punishment, however, is having this posted on Facebook, so all your buddies will know what an idiot your Daddy is."

If it had been me (and I'd had the time and patience to mess with ANYBODY's Facebook maunderings - which is unlikely in the extreme), I'd have either locked the laptop up or given it away. Maybe I would have posted on her Facebook page something like "Hannah won't be posting anymore since we took her compuer away from her after she demonstrated she wasn't mature and responsible enough to have one." THAT would have bothered a 15-year old girl. Having her redneck Daddy shoot her laptop with a pistol probably made her a teen martyr.

This, in my opinion, DOES NOT reflect in a positive manner on those of us who own and use guns.

jeeper46 · Post by **jeeper46** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:43:51

Right way! Wrong way! He could have saved $8 by using a 12ga.

dorminWS · Post by **dorminWS** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:54:16

jeeper46 wrote:Right way! Wrong way! He could have saved $8 by using a 12ga.

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Yeah, there's that, too. Those neat little .45-inch holes weren't nearly dramatic enough. If he HAD to shoot it, he ought to have used something that would have really splattered it all over the yard. Or maybe used some of them 'splodin' boolets.

Riposite · Post by **Riposite** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:06:26

I have to say, an over reaction -kids tend to vent especially teens and the whole kind of snooping , it is own thing to suspect them of bein g into drugs or watching out for predators but to get this overwrought about a post they made venting....

and yes I totally agree with Dormin I don't think this is the sort of guy we want as the poster board for responsible gun ownership

Post by **OakRidgeStars** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:15:00

I was more concerned about him carrying his 1911 in Condition 2 than I was with his method of laptop destruction.

TheGodfather · Post by **TheGodfather** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:25:15

Riposite wrote:I have to say, an over reaction -kids tend to vent especially teens and the whole kind of snooping , it is own thing to suspect them of bein g into drugs or watching out for predators but to get this overwrought about a post they made venting....

and yes I totally agree with Dormin I don't think this is the sort of guy we want as the poster board for responsible gun ownership

We really have no way of knowing if it was an overreaction. In the video, he makes it very clear that her post was the "last straw". She had been doing multiple things prior to this and the shooting was the final outcome of her continued rebelious behavior.

Also, I don't think the dad's actions were idiotic since I really don't know his daughter and what kind of punishment she responds to. Having a video of her laptop getting blown away going viral all over the internet may be what works best with her.

mamabearCali · Post by **mamabearCali** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:33:09

Ouch! Don't make that dad angry. Was it an over reaction, maybe, but I am sure it got her attention. Sure children do stupid stuff like this all the time. Parents have emotions too, and children need to learn that. Additionally Facebook is not the private rant board that kids think it is. People have been fired and lost their livelihood for what they have written on Facebook. A hard lesson for that teen to be sure, and a costly one for the dad, but if it is learned well it might just save her skin some day.

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WRW · Post by **WRW** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:53:22

I'm just not that great of a fan of airing dirty laundry. I might have destroyed it in her presence, but not on or in a social venue.

dorminWS · Post by **dorminWS** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:02:29

WRW wrote:I'm just not that great of a fan of airing dirty laundry. I might have destroyed it in her presence, but not on or in a social venue.

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Yup. 312,995,444 Americans with a God-given and constitutionally protected right to speak and a near-universal predilection for demanding to be heard, but so very rarely anything worthwhile to say. I guess (based on what people tell me) that's what makes Facebook the internet's answer to Jerry Springer.

dorminWS · Post by **dorminWS** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:02:48

WRW wrote:I'm just not that great of a fan of airing dirty laundry. I might have destroyed it in her presence, but not on or in a social venue.

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Yup. 312,995,444 Americans with a God-given and constitutionally protected right to speak and a near-universal predilection for demanding to be heard, but so very rarely anything worthwhile to say. I guess (based on what people tell me) that's what makes Facebook the internet's answer to Jerry Springer.

WRW · Post by **WRW** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:27:08

dorminWS wrote:
WRW wrote:I'm just not that great of a fan of airing dirty laundry. I might have destroyed it in her presence, but not on or in a social venue.
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Yup. 312,995,444 Americans with a God-given and constitutionally protected right to speak and a near-universal predilection for demanding to be heard, but so very rarely anything worthwhile to say. I guess (based on what people tell me) that's what makes Facebook the internet's answer to Jerry Springer.

Sad thing is, he just reinforced the validity of the act that peeved him so sorely.

Riposite · Post by **Riposite** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:05:38

WRW wrote:
dorminWS wrote:
WRW wrote:I'm just not that great of a fan of airing dirty laundry. I might have destroyed it in her presence, but not on or in a social venue.
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Yup. 312,995,444 Americans with a God-given and constitutionally protected right to speak and a near-universal predilection for demanding to be heard, but so very rarely anything worthwhile to say. I guess (based on what people tell me) that's what makes Facebook the internet's answer to Jerry Springer.
Sad thing is, he just reinforced the validity of the act that peeved him so sorely.

pretty much right..and he posted it to her facebook account so it is her peers and friends see it; that strikes me as more vindictive than constructive. He's upset his daughter seems ungrateful-take the laptop away; ground her whatever -but humiliate her in front of her peer group and plus since he destroyed the laptop she won't see it first hand it will reach her from her peers? I'm sorry I don;t care how much she whined about chores, this is over the line.

And then to the gun issue, casually discharging his gun to destroy a laptop and make a point to punish his 15 year old daughter about saying bad things about him? That doesn't equal responsible gun ownership in my book and honestly there's a bit of an implied threat there, he could of tossed the lap top in the garbage, hit it with a hammer, but no he needs to make a point of shooting it repeatedly with a .45 and posting a video of it on her facebook page for all her friends to see him do it?

And some people have mentioned he said this was the last straw-but the only other offense he mentions is that she posted on facebook before. All we can judge him on is what he says here. He read her post hate to break it to you, but I doubt at some point many a teenager hasn't thought something similar . So she said some angry things about you pop; get over it; your the adult. I am sorry I just can't see anything positive in what he did.

dorminWS · Post by **dorminWS** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:54:06

Yup. Wish I could take back all the back-sassing I did as an adolescent. And, for that matter, if I'd waved a pistol around every time one of my kids tried to be grown up by being obnoxious, somebody would probably have locked me up. I think that guy's problem is that however old he is, he's still got a little growing up to do himself. If he does, he'll come to regret that episode someday. Just my opinion.

AlanM · Post by **AlanM** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:44:20

Since he said that he is an IT professional I suspect that $1000 is pocket change for him and not a big deal.
It's also possible that that wasn't really her laptop but a dead twin and her machine is, in fact, locked up.
Sometimes you have to smack the mule between the eyes with a two by four just to get his attention before you can teach him anything.

MNMGoneShooting · Post by **MNMGoneShooting** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:52:46

Spectacular! I wonder what he did with the laptop afterwards? Set it on her desk with a bow on it?

dorminWS · Post by **dorminWS** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:19:30

AlanM wrote:Since he said that he is an IT professional I suspect that $1000 is pocket change for him and not a big deal.
It's also possible that that wasn't really her laptop but a dead twin and her machine is, in fact, locked up.

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Either that, or he "liberated" it in any number of ways from his business or a client at little or no cost to him.
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AlanM wrote: Sometimes you have to smack the mule between the eyes with a two by four just to get his attention before you can teach him anything.

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Alan, I have a daughter and 2 sons. With boys, if you raised them right, it works OK most of the time to feed one end and beat the other. But little girls aren't mules. They're special. Even when they're being a royal pain in the posterior. And I'm sorry if it offends anyone (hell, not really), but in my book it takes a rotating S.O.B. to treat his little girl in such a manner.
(If you don't know what a rotating S.O.B. is, just ask.)
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wylde007 · Post by **wylde007** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:29:28

dorminWS wrote:I'm sorry if it offends anyone (hell, not really), but in my book it takes a rotating S.O.B. to treat his little girl in such a manner.

I think the guy is a total attention whore and got exactly what he wanted from the internet: 15 minutes of fame.

Oh noes! She posted a rant of complaint on the interwebs! Whatever shall we do?

Blow up her computer. That'll show her!

Doofus.

seeknulfind · Post by **seeknulfind** » Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:12:03

My son, who is Hanna's age, thought what the father did was great. I don't agree. I simply do not like wantonly destroying stuff. Never have. Hanna has it very easy if her life is as described, My own kids only wish they had it so good. Overall I'm very happy with the way mine are turning out. Don't get me wrong, I find myself constantly frustrated with them. They, too, whine about what they've are required to do, they do a lot of things half-heartedly. My eldest (Hanna's age) is starting to do a lot better in many areas but there is still a lot of room for improvement.

Anyway, I couldn't help comparing my situation to this guy's. However if the situation was reversed I'd probably say, "Thank you for your comments but I prefer to make my own parenting mistakes." And so I just hope things work out for him.

Andy

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