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[gunderwood]

I'm getting mixed feedback about the LCR. I didn't find it painful to shoot, as some say, but others question the wisdom of carrying in a pocket. I guess I would rather have one in the pocket than nothing at all.

I carry a S&W J-frame airweight (similar in size & weight to the LCR) both in the pocket or concealed OWB, depending on my attire for the day. It conceals well OWB under an untucked shirt, but having the right holster, high & tight, makes the difference.
As far as carrying in the pocket, I use a pocket holster, too. Mine's the fabric one from Blackhawk; need something to cover the trigger guard and break up the outline. If drawing from a pocket may not seem quite as quick, it does allow you to put your hand on the gun without alarming others if your situational awareness Spidey-sense starts tingling.

Small revolvers are good option, but I prefer the semis because they are thinner. The small revolvers are close to an LCR or similar, but the cylinder is much thicker.

[Mindflayer]

I went shopping for the Bodyguard 380 to get a feel for it. I ended up buying a S&W 642-2.

OK, I am really done buying guns now. I can't believe I just got into this and already own three pistols and a rifle.

[gunderwood]

I went shopping for the Bodyguard 380 to get a feel for it. I ended up buying a S&W 642-2.

OK, I am really done buying guns now. I can't believe I just got into this and already own three pistols and a rifle.

Why stop at three? You need a bolt action tactical rifle. That could set you back a small car.

[allingeneral]

I went shopping for the Bodyguard 380 to get a feel for it. I ended up buying a S&W 642-2.

OK, I am really done buying guns now. I can't believe I just got into this and already own three pistols and a rifle.

[gunderwood]

The 642s are nice. If I was to buy one I'd be looking between a 442 or 642.

[Mindflayer]

I put 40 rounds through it today a couple of hours after purchase. I have only fired a revolver a few times, and never a snub nose. My friend - the seasoned shooter who got me into this - has a Ruger SP101 and he fired 10 rounds. I found the recoil sharp and getting back on target rough. My friend agreed that the gun "jumped all over the place".

I was shooting high and right or low. I moved the target to 10', figured out the sighting, and then moved the target back to 30', and did a lot better. I also found I was sitting with my pinky on a ridge on the grip, which was probably acting as a lever point. Moved it down, tightened up. It's not a shoot-several-hundred-rounds-in-a-session range gun, but once I got things worked out, it was a lot more fun to shoot.

The best part was shooting my XDM afterwards. I was doing timed shots, and the recoil was nothing comparatively.

[Diomed]

OK, I am really done buying guns now. I can't believe I just got into this and already own three pistols and a rifle.

Keep on telling yourself that. You may actually start to believe it, even as you're buying your thirtieth or fortieth gun...

I put 40 rounds through it today a couple of hours after purchase. I have only fired a revolver a few times, and never a snub nose. My friend - the seasoned shooter who got me into this - has a Ruger SP101 and he fired 10 rounds. I found the recoil sharp and getting back on target rough. My friend agreed that the gun "jumped all over the place".

I was shooting high and right or low. I moved the target to 10', figured out the sighting, and then moved the target back to 30', and did a lot better. I also found I was sitting with my pinky on a ridge on the grip, which was probably acting as a lever point. Moved it down, tightened up. It's not a shoot-several-hundred-rounds-in-a-session range gun, but once I got things worked out, it was a lot more fun to shoot.

To be very blunt, the snub revolver is not a beginner's gun. I cringe whenever someone suggests them to a woman who is new to guns, just because they're small. It takes time and effort to master, or even get fair with. You can alleviate some of the issues with better grips and ammo selection (practice with 130gr FMJs - easier to clean than lead and loaded much lighter than average .38spl) to get better accustomed to how it handles. But you already know - it's not a plink all afternoon sort of gun.

[zephyp]

@Patrick - the trick is dont fight the gun. Its going to do what it wants...you have to treat it like sort of like a good woman to get what you want...

[gunderwood]

@Patrick - the trick is dont fight the gun. Its going to do what it wants...you have to treat it like sort of like a good woman to get what you want...

DK is trying to derail this thread like Jake and I did to the browser thread.

[newdovo]

The 642s are nice. If I was to buy one I'd be looking between a 442 or 642.

I went with the 642 as I felt it would stand up better to sweat. Switched out the grips for the retro look - wood grips with Tyler T-grip.

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This isn't mine, but looks the same, except for the front sight.


Parry

[Mindflayer]

To be very blunt, the snub revolver is not a beginner's gun. I cringe whenever someone suggests them to a woman who is new to guns, just because they're small. It takes time and effort to master, or even get fair with. You can alleviate some of the issues with better grips and ammo selection (practice with 130gr FMJs - easier to clean than lead and loaded much lighter than average .38spl) to get better accustomed to how it handles. But you already know - it's not a plink all afternoon sort of gun.

I was aware of the concerns/impact before I bought the pistol, and it was one of the reasons I was looking at the Bodyguard™ 380. I've fired the LCP now, and it's sharp, but not as brutal for me as it is for others. No idea what ticked in my head to go for a revolver - maybe it was trying on the Bodyguard 38 and LCR on for size. In any case, I figured I could start using the 642 and learn to use it properly.

Once I got a better feel for the grip and sights, it was not so bad. Another friend sold his after 25 rounds - he just could not stomach the recoil, and he's been shooting for years. OTOH, my other buddy thought it hopped a bit, even compared to his Ruger SP101 w/.357 Magnum. I think changing that beautiful rosewood for a rubber Uncle Mike's may help perceived recoil.

I have no illusions about needing a lot of practice before I am executing Mozambique drills with any accuracy. Hell, I am newbie, so I'm happy I can do timed drills with pretty high accuracy right now with my "weak" 9mm!

[gunderwood]

To be very blunt, the snub revolver is not a beginner's gun. I cringe whenever someone suggests them to a woman who is new to guns, just because they're small. It takes time and effort to master, or even get fair with. You can alleviate some of the issues with better grips and ammo selection (practice with 130gr FMJs - easier to clean than lead and loaded much lighter than average .38spl) to get better accustomed to how it handles. But you already know - it's not a plink all afternoon sort of gun.

I was aware of the concerns/impact before I bought the pistol, and it was one of the reasons I was looking at the Bodyguard™ 380. I've fired the LCP now, and it's sharp, but not as brutal for me as it is for others. No idea what ticked in my head to go for a revolver - maybe it was trying on the Bodyguard 38 and LCR on for size. In any case, I figured I could start using the 642 and learn to use it properly.

Once I got a better feel for the grip and sights, it was not so bad. Another friend sold his after 25 rounds - he just could not stomach the recoil, and he's been shooting for years. OTOH, my other buddy thought it hopped a bit, even compared to his Ruger SP101 w/.357 Magnum. I think changing that beautiful rosewood for a rubber Uncle Mike's may help perceived recoil.

I have no illusions about needing a lot of practice before I am executing Mozambique drills with any accuracy. Hell, I am newbie, so I'm happy I can do timed drills with pretty high accuracy right now with my "weak" 9mm!

The rubber grips are a must in my book. I can't shoot revolvers for nothin without them.

[zephyp]

@Patrick - the trick is dont fight the gun. Its going to do what it wants...you have to treat it like sort of like a good woman to get what you want...

DK is trying to derail this thread like Jake and I did to the browser thread.

Actually I wasnt trying to introduce sarcasm...the statement is metaphorically correct... Most women do what they want and if you want them to do anything for you there is a special way to handle them, and each one different...

[OakRidgeStars]

And speaking of the Ruger LCR, it's now available in .357 Mag.

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/specSheets/5450.html

Just in case the .38 Special +P doesn't do it for you.

[gunderwood]

And speaking of the Ruger LCR, it's now available in .357 Mag.

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/specSheets/5450.html

Just in case the .38 Special +P doesn't do it for you.

I like the concept of the LCR and like revolvers, but .357Mag is too much IMHO. Might as well make them single shots because you aren't going to be able to find the gun as it is 20 feet behind you.

[Diomed]

I think changing that beautiful rosewood for a rubber Uncle Mike's may help perceived recoil.

If you don't mind a set of "range only" grips, Pachmayr makes a set of rubber J frame grips (I think they're Gripper Decelerators) that are oversized - they make a vast improvement in handling, but they're very big. The gun feels sort of like a K-frame that's been through the dryer. I use them on 3" barreled J-frames, they're fantastic.

[zephyp]

Recoil on a .357 aint that bad...its a bit more than most pistols we carry but still manageable. I wouldnt necessarily carry one though unless I had time to shoot a couple times weekly...

[gunderwood]

Recoil on a .357 aint that bad...its a bit more than most pistols we carry but still manageable. I wouldnt necessarily carry one though unless I had time to shoot a couple times weekly...

.357Mag isn't bad, but mostly people will be unable to shoot one well in that package. It weights only 17oz, you can only get 2 fingers on it, etc. Don't forget that the original .357Mag load was the 158gr, but the 125gr was developed for defensive use because most people considered the 158gr to have too much recoil.

[zephyp]

Yes and the 2 big problems with a .357 is the follow up shot and a pistol like this is definitely not good for a running gun battle but who needs that. Follow up acquisition can be helped through practice. I bet spending an hour on the range using full loads with that one will leave a bruise though.

[gunderwood]

i just want to know !

Why did someone's seeking advice about a sighting system for his Ruger AR end up talking about riots in VA?

It started as a joke concerning the justification for the firearms.