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Our founding fathers said it would come to this when our government gets bigger than their britches.

Don't say who, your relation, or anything that may put someone in jeopardy, but does anyone know personally any individual(s) heading to Nevada in support of either the Government or the Bundy family?

Me personally, I make 100% of my income from supporting the government. As vocal as I am about some of the crap they pull, I have to be very selective about what I say an do. I don't want to risk loosing my income. I will say this, if there were and outright revolution, I may not be young enough or fit enough for battle, but I would have to leave my role in DC to protect my family.

With that said... if I was in the private sector, I would have a truck loaded to the hilt with supplies and driving out there with as much as I could carry.


I love this picture.

I have heard of people in another forum that I frequent that is more west than we are heading that way. I have heard heard of any of my virginia friends going, but I have many friends who are watching this with great interest.

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Sources inside the BLM and Las Vegas Metro PD say Feds are planning to raid the Bundy home as well as the homes of their children.

http://benswann.com/exclusive-sources-i ... z2yu7rDfdC

Not only is the BLM not actually backing off of Cliven Bundy, Sheriff Richard Mack of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association has revealed stunning information: on Ben Swann’s radio program, Mack said that he has received intelligence from multiple, credible sources inside the BLM and the Las Vegas Metro that there is “no question” that the federal government is planning a raid on the Bundy home and the homes of their children who live on the property.

According to Mack, the so-called retreat was nothing more than theatrics. “It was a ploy to get people to back off, to get people out of the way. They weren’t expecting us to get this amount of people here. They were surprised by the numbers and so they wanted a way to get us out of here. This was a ploy to get us out of here and then they’re going after the Bundys.” Mack said that when he was at the Bundy ranch on Saturday there were an estimated 600 to 800 protesters present when federal agents were releasing the cattle.

“If they do that kind of raid, I don’t believe there’s any way that could happen without bloodshed,” Mack told Swann.

Anyone else see any evidence of a land-grab trend?

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wir ... s-not-over

“Well, it’s not over,” Reid told KRNV, a Reno, Nev.-based television station. “We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it's not over.”

What he meant to say was, "We can't have an American people who interfere with deals the politicians and their kids make with Communists."

From a BLM document that had been didsapeared from its original web page. The internet never forgets.

http://archive.today/nvlzr

"Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle."

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At this time, I still stand that only people like us on this forum will do anything.

I worked with a guy when Waco happened who said "Good! Good Riddance! No one should stand up to the government! They're there to help us."

And with the increase in entitiements, I cannot see a majority going for this...

Now. that being said? If I were Bundy? I would welcome as MANY people as i could to camp out, and stick around on a rotational basis...

And that photo of the anon Militia sniper? Is EXCELLENT fodder for the Progressive/Commies to say "SEE! SEE! WE TOLD YOU THE WHITE MIDDLE AGED MEN WERE YOUR ENEMIES!"

Sorry, but I cannot see any good coming to us... But... i can see this as the start of a Revolution.

Regarding the guy on the overpass and the "progressive" whining.

That guy was pointing in the general direction of people with weapons and preparing to use violence. Who were THESE guys pointing at? In addition to the obvious rifleman along with the binoc guys, note the guy using better cover at the front of the truck. Also note their poor trigger disipline.

Damn good video! Thanks for sharing.

Well Now that was intresting

As a Texan I feel I must point something out about rule of law and people's struggle for freedom against a corrupt oppressive govt.

. In 1836 Texas by all rights belonged to Mexico. By all rules of law in the area the freedom fighters were nothing more than land pirates deserving of no quarter. They died at Goliad and at the Alamo, but they set up San Jacinto. The desire for freedom from a corrupt state was overwhelming and in the end they were victorious.

These ranchers have been oppressed and abused by the govt. A govt which colludes with itself to deprive men of their property, their livelihood, and sometimes their lives at the slightest provocation. We have all started to feel the pinch of the Feds of late. We are all feeling the weight of corruption on us, The FEDS and all govt in general would be wise not to set up an Alamo, unless they want a San Jacinto.

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I read that the feds backed down at least for now, and the cowboys were able to get 100 head of cattle that the feds had "confiscated" back to Bundy.



Lets watch and see what they the feds do when they rally and reorganize.

That is great.

However I am wary. Every tyrannical despotic regime....which our govt certainly is now.......has a similar play book. Tell your enemies peace, safety, and truce, then when they are sleeping you come in and kill everyone. That trick is as old as the hills. This is not over. It is a mere skirmish and a long way to go.

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mamabearCali wrote:As a Texan I feel I must point something out about rule of law and people's struggle for freedom against a corrupt oppressive govt.

. In 1836 Texas by all rights belonged to Mexico. By all rules of law in the area the freedom fighters were nothing more than land pirates deserving of no quarter. They died at Goliad and at the Alamo, but they set up San Jacinto. The desire for freedom from a corrupt state was overwhelming and in the end they were victorious.

These ranchers have been oppressed and abused by the govt. A govt which colludes with itself to deprive men of their property, their livelihood, and sometimes their lives at the slightest provocation. We have all started to feel the pinch of the Feds of late. We are all feeling the weight of corruption on us, The FEDS and all govt in general would be wise not to set up an Alamo, unless they want a San Jacinto.

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That's downright eloquent, MBC.............. It should be shared far and wide.

So because they did not feel like going through the trouble to find homes for these little creatures they were slaughtered. Nice......as far as them making bad pests because they have a long lifespan. Some parrots have long lifespans. It is quite simple the parrot is willed to a member of the family and goes on.

My inlaws had a bird we were to have inherited, but of course he died.

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I was watching "Fox News Reporting: Enemies of the State" just before the Bundy thing broke. The story of the Hage's struggle with the BLM was interrupted by the MLA saga but I found the video. Watch and draw your own conclusions. Actual story starts a couple of minutes after the introduction.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 7yR-Gj5u70

Lets get one thing, a very basic thing, straight about the Bundy / Bunkerville matter: BLM does not own land. They are a management agency with responsibilities for certain public lands.

BLM no more owns the public lands than the FAA owns the airspace that it, too, manages.

I left VA 4 years ago, and live in White Pine County Nevada now, two counties North of Clark county. The ranch includes both deeded private land and BLM managed property -- maybe some Forest Service managed land, too. Mr. Bundy is well known and respected in the Nevada ranching community. In my work, I have met Cliven Bundy and his wife and one son that lives on and works the ranch.

There are two court orders outstanding that order Bundy off the public lands for non-payment of BLM fees over close to 20 years. His position is that he has a pre-existing right to use the land since his family has been there non-stop since 1877. The pre-existing rights issue is a valid legal theory -- and one that is changing under other court decisions. (See cases involving Hage vs. the United States, which have been ongoing for about 15 years.) True enough though, he has been ordered off the land, and until a court says otherwise, BLM has the authority to remove him.

What we do know is that the public will not tolerate 1/ the use of armed force and positioning of snipers against unarmed demonstrators, and 2/ that "free speech zones" are offensive and a PR disaster for BLM.

We also know that BLM is not done. It simple withdrew due (at least in part) to potential for violence and possible other legal problems. "Based on information about conditions on the ground and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," the bureau's director, Neil Kornze, said in a statement. FYI: Kornze is Nevadan that knows the land issues well and a former senior staff member to Senator/Majority Leader Harry Reid.

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