What should be done about toy guns?

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Re: What should be done about toy guns?

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@ Kreutz - I was thinking the same thing. Something else about distance; people without firearms training are going to hit a cop (at least not on purpose) with a pistol shot from 20-25 yards away. The LEO's would have a huge upper hand in a gun fight with distance and training on their side.

@ Bill - :whistle:

@ Bob - I posted this in another forum about the situation. Sounds like you and I are of the same mindset.
Originally Posted by skwerl
OK so if you have 4100 white murderers arrested out of 72.4% of the population and then you have another 4200 black murderers arrested out of 12.6% of the population, how can you sit there and claim we're all the same? Blacks are 6 times more likely to murder someone. Blacks are inherently more violent regardless of how many people jump up and down claiming we are all the same. We are similar but there are many genetic differences which go much deeper than just skin color.


Eh, I think I follow your line of thinking. But, I think those people are 6 times more likely to commit murder for many other reasons outside the color of their skin. Race and ethnicity are not factors that determine if someone is a murderer or not. I could be wrong, as I am not a psychologist nor do I study the human condition and its relation to behavior based on their ancestors point of origin, but it sounds unreasonable to assume that there is a relation.

I would think its more a matter of target demographic being herded into condensed groups while the government and the race-hustlers condition them by brainwashing them into believing that they are solely dependent on the government and confined to a life of hopelessness and tragedy because they are repressed by others, combined with upbringing by people already trapped by this system.

Again, you (i.e. Americans) need to believe that there is a race problem in order for the Socialist party to use that as a leverage or means of control over the people while making hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more.

Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and people like them need you (i.e. Americans) to believe that this race issue is a social problem instead of a man-made control mechanism so donators will send them infinite amounts of money to help rescue the oppressed... all while further oppressing the target demographic so they ensure the growth of power and continuation of money flowing into their pockets.

Need proof? Ever ask yourself why Jackson and Sharpton are always at the White House for closed door meetings whenever there is a Democrat President?

But hey... everyone should look on the bright side, Black and White Americans should be happy because all this is going to end soon. See, Black Americans are growing in numbers, intelligence, and wealth, making them harder to be controlled by the socialist party. So, they are importing Hispanics by the 10's of millions so they can create a new target demographic that they can control. Then the Blacks and White can revel in the common belief that Hispanics and Latinos are the new problem. The Black and White problem goes away; the socialist party and the and race-hustlers keep their money flowing and the cycle starts over again.
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Re: What should be done about toy guns?

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Marc, while I think we agree on principles, we differ on a few details.

We didn't make it about the color of their skin. They did. And by doing so, and acting the way they do, they force even the most open-minded among us to question whether they have made a self-fulfilling prophecy. (Who are the "they"? Not the race-baiting, self-styled "leaders" but those who willingly gave up their minds to accept those corrupt racists as their leaders.)

I think that your last paragraph draws the battle lines incorrectly. It won't be the established tribes against the newcomers, but, as you wrote above it, the government dependents, all organized by the Democrat party against the producers. Remember, the urban dependent class doesn't want jobs, so they don't care whether Mexicans "do the jobs they won't do." All they want is unearned money.
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Re: What should be done about toy guns?

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I was a cop for 20 years, retired in 2001. I was an FTO for the last few years. The guy driving the patrol car is an idiot. He drove up so close and so fast his partner, a rookie with only a few months on the road, had no time or distance to react any other way then what he did. The rookie, yelled 3 times?? BS! 1.5 seconds, if he was yelling hands up, there is no way that 12 year old could even comprehend what was going on and what the officer wanted. That kid never had time to process what the officer wanted or what was happening. You want to protest something, this is it, not the thug in Ferguson.
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Re: What should be done about toy guns?

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I have to say, I'm with you machias. It looks to me like the police were in the wrong on this one. Even if it were an adult and a real gun, the police approached that one all wrong. The person had been there with the gun a while before the police showed. If he had wanted to use the gun he had a chance before the cops showed. The rookie didn't give the kid time to react to any command or even acknowledge that he heard what the cop said. The cop didn't take into account that the kid might have been deaf. The police should have approached slowly from a distance so they could observe what was happening before taking action. It looked to me like a case of shoot first, ask later.
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