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mamabearCali wrote:My "stuff" is insured.
not against riots... seriously... go read your policy exclusions. Riots/war/civil insurrections are generally excluded from most personal policy, and are a specific rider I need to add on my commercial policy.
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Now that is a handy piece of info. I am going to check on that too.

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Then it is still replaceable.

I, my kids, my husband, my dog even, we are not replaceable. The first rule if staying out if trouble is to stay away from places you know trouble is likely to happen.

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....And here we go again...
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Arrest every person that breaks a window, throws a bottle, or starts a fire. That is the only way this ends.

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Problem is, how do you do that at night, while there's a riot going on?

Not that I disagree with the idea of arresting criminals; it's just a difficult prospect, when in the midst of a riot.

If they had tried to arrest the whole crowd, the crowd would have resisted violently. The damage would have been worse, and white police would have likely killed black rioters. And, it starts all over again.

What would have actually happened, is that criminals would have died while resisting arrest, after being caught committing felonies; but it would not have been painted that way.

Those rioters stole the lively-hoods of many Ferguson residents. How many people woke up, I wonder, and realized that they had been rendered unemployed by selfish animals?

Sometimes you have to protect your investments, your way of life. The government was unable to protect the law abiding citizens in Ferguson. That riot was inevitable, it was not going to be stopped. Those business owners should have been there to protect their investments. That was how they made their living, fed their families.

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After the violence of the 1960's there was only one Democrat President from 1968-1992. I think we are getting ready to see a similar thing happen.
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Remember the strip mall with the business owners with Ar15's? They were not touched again:

http://www.libertynews.com/2014/11/busi ... r-looting/
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FiremanBob wrote:
Advice for the race-baiting "protest organizers" and their mindless followers: Your actions have justified every negative stereotype that we, the civil, non-racist majority have consistently rejected, and are forcing us to consider whether there is a racial basis, in addition to the cultural basis, for your brutish behavior. In sum, you have proven that one doesn't have to be sub-human to act like a sub-human. You have set back the civil rights movement decades by showing the tribalist, violent nature of the subculture of urban blacks in America to day. You all have more in common with the machete-wielding savages in Rwanda than you do with Martin Luther King.
The violent protesters weren't only urban blacks in the footage I saw (both in New York as well as Ferguson) - so really the "You" should be more towards a broader spectrum of uneducated and violent culture.

Brown's father certainly showed his colors with the captured footage shown last night: "Burn this ***** down!" (repeatedly) - stark contrast to their statements prior to the announcement of the (lack of) indictment.
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Armed deterrence works fine as long as the ammo you have outnumbers the crowd looking to torch your business. Problem with animals is, when they become enraged they lose all sense of fear.

The race-baiters are already working on making that criminal a civil-rights martyr. With the help of O-bucket-head and his hyena in the DOJ, they'll do a fine job.

It may be too late to convince blacks in this country that they've been lied to since Johnson put the Great Society programs in place.

The best thing to do right now is to get the government out of the way of the economy. Let business thrive and put people back to work. Make work more profitable than welfare by increasing the demand for workers. If business has to actively search for workers they 'll increase wages to attract them. More people working means fewer people with too much free time on their hands. At the same time reduce public assistance payments for ALL able-bodied Americans. Make it less attractive to take a handout.

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I have no more opinions that are print worthy. Because my thoughts are simple. You have people committing crimes, acts of violence, and in an enraged mob...

You open up with a full belt on a Squad Automatic Weapon.

I guarantee the crowd will "Disperse".

No matter the aftermath, or the arm chair quarterbacking. At that moment in time, you're life is endangered, and you have no route of escape. Time to bring out "Old Painless".
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MNMGoneShooting wrote:
FiremanBob wrote:
Advice for the race-baiting "protest organizers" and their mindless followers: Your actions have justified every negative stereotype that we, the civil, non-racist majority have consistently rejected, and are forcing us to consider whether there is a racial basis, in addition to the cultural basis, for your brutish behavior. In sum, you have proven that one doesn't have to be sub-human to act like a sub-human. You have set back the civil rights movement decades by showing the tribalist, violent nature of the subculture of urban blacks in America to day. You all have more in common with the machete-wielding savages in Rwanda than you do with Martin Luther King.
The violent protesters weren't only urban blacks in the footage I saw (both in New York as well as Ferguson) - so really the "You" should be more towards a broader spectrum of uneducated and violent culture.

Brown's father certainly showed his colors with the captured footage shown last night: "Burn this ***** down!" (repeatedly) - stark contrast to their statements prior to the announcement of the (lack of) indictment.
That was his step father. His father was like WTF is wrong with these people.
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+1 to Ted!
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Too Soon???
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NEVER! THAT WAS HILARIOUS! HAHAHHAH :hysterical: :wave:
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Snakester wrote:I hear what you are saying and agree 100%....What I don't get is 93% of Blacks being killed is at the hands of other Blacks. Only FOX NEWS reports this. All these so called "Protesters" want is an excuse to Riot and Lute !
I agree with this. They are waiting and looking for a reason to act like hoodlums and feel the Ferguson actions is a good excuse. And IMO it has nothing to do with Michael Brown and little to do with Darren Wilson and his actions.

And as Reverenddel states - Not a bit different than the Rodney King riots.
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Swampman wrote:Armed deterrence works fine as long as the ammo you have outnumbers the crowd looking to torch your business. Problem with animals is, when they become enraged they lose all sense of fear.
I think that is true to a certain extent, but with some caveats. The punks in Ferguson knew that the cops and national guard were not going to shoot them when they rioted and looted. The store owners on the other hand they were not so sure about and they did not attempt it.
The race-baiters are already working on making that criminal a civil-rights martyr. With the help of O-bucket-head and his hyena in the DOJ, they'll do a fine job.
I heard of threats of police walkouts in protest if that happens.
It may be too late to convince blacks in this country that they've been lied to since Johnson put the Great Society programs in place.
Some are starting to figure it out. Just yesterday a Washington Post article blamed Republicans of all people for Ferguson, even though everyone involved from the governor, mayor, city council etc. are registered Democrats. The Ohio governors race is an example of people realizing they have been duped and really never left the largest plantation owner in history, the Democratic party. Obama selling African Americans up the river for the Hispanic vote is driving their anger as well.
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What bothers me as much as anything in these kinds of actions is total ignorance to facts. I feel for the family but it disgust me to keep responses like there are no facts that indicate Michael Brown to possibly have been in the wrong.

This kind of information tells me the family doesn't want to be bothered with any facts. They just want "their" justice because the know the facts tell a different story.

http://news.yahoo.com/grand-jury-docume ... 58856.html
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