Liberalization of Gun Laws in Virginia

[rod]

Here's my unsolicited opinion...I'd like to see some protection from civil lawsuits, as well as criminal charges, when defending my life and the lives of those around me. As for home intruders, if they break in, they get shot. No warning other than the muzzle flash. That means the intruder has to break a window or somehow force his way in. Walking through an unlocked door wouldn't justify an extra hole in the head unless the intruder displayed some kind of aggressive behavior. As for defending property, the intruder wouldn't have a chance to take any property if he/she forced their way into a residence, vehicle, personal space, and so on. They get shot as soon as they invade my "castle". There are several versions of the "castle doctrine" that vary from state to state. Most of them offer no protection from civil lawsuits, and that needs to change. Once the DA determines it was a good shoot, that needs to be the end of it. With that said, I believe the state should provide the shooter with a replacement gun while the gun used is held as evidence during an investigation.

One more thing that I believe would go a long way in making our lives a little bit safer is an outright ban on crime. If we ban crime, only criminals will comit crime, and that would make it easier to identify the right people to prosecute and punish. I'm tired of walking on eggshells and wondering if I've been deemed a criminal each morning when I wake up by some unicorn farmer passing some feel good legislation that does nothing to protect anyone, but makes law abiding citizens automatic criminals.

Ok, I'm done for the moment. I'm off to go renew my VCDL membership.

[Taggure]

Here's my unsolicited opinion...I'd like to see some protection from civil lawsuits, as well as criminal charges, when defending my life and the lives of those around me. As for home intruders, if they break in, they get shot. No warning other than the muzzle flash. That means the intruder has to break a window or somehow force his way in. Walking through an unlocked door wouldn't justify an extra hole in the head unless the intruder displayed some kind of aggressive behavior. As for defending property, the intruder wouldn't have a chance to take any property if he/she forced their way into a residence, vehicle, personal space, and so on. They get shot as soon as they invade my "castle". There are several versions of the "castle doctrine" that vary from state to state. Most of them offer no protection from civil lawsuits, and that needs to change. Once the DA determines it was a good shoot, that needs to be the end of it. With that said, I believe the state should provide the shooter with a replacement gun while the gun used is held as evidence during an investigation.

One more thing that I believe would go a long way in making our lives a little bit safer is an outright ban on crime. If we ban crime, only criminals will comit crime, and that would make it easier to identify the right people to prosecute and punish. I'm tired of walking on eggshells and wondering if I've been deemed a criminal each morning when I wake up by some unicorn farmer passing some feel good legislation that does nothing to protect anyone, but makes law abiding citizens automatic criminals.

Ok, I'm done for the moment. I'm off to go renew my VCDL membership.

well put

[mamabearCali]

Here's my unsolicited opinion...I'd like to see some protection from civil lawsuits, as well as criminal charges, when defending my life and the lives of those around me. As for home intruders, if they break in, they get shot. No warning other than the muzzle flash. That means the intruder has to break a window or somehow force his way in. Walking through an unlocked door wouldn't justify an extra hole in the head unless the intruder displayed some kind of aggressive behavior. As for defending property, the intruder wouldn't have a chance to take any property if he/she forced their way into a residence, vehicle, personal space, and so on. They get shot as soon as they invade my "castle". There are several versions of the "castle doctrine" that vary from state to state. Most of them offer no protection from civil lawsuits, and that needs to change. Once the DA determines it was a good shoot, that needs to be the end of it. With that said, I believe the state should provide the shooter with a replacement gun while the gun used is held as evidence during an investigation.

One more thing that I believe would go a long way in making our lives a little bit safer is an outright ban on crime. If we ban crime, only criminals will comit crime, and that would make it easier to identify the right people to prosecute and punish. I'm tired of walking on eggshells and wondering if I've been deemed a criminal each morning when I wake up by some unicorn farmer passing some feel good legislation that does nothing to protect anyone, but makes law abiding citizens automatic criminals.

Ok, I'm done for the moment. I'm off to go renew my VCDL membership.

That would be great here in VA.

[MCCW]

Interesting Topic, Indeed. Part of this issue is null and void, if you consider the total of all our rights. A person steals your car and uses your weapon, is his fault. Especially if in secured car and secondary safe, such as your glove box. The owner of any property should not ever know you are carrying concealed or can carry at your whim, anyways. Just as going into Court, it is your(our) responsibility to secure your weapons safely. Any PD or army teaches this as "weapon retention" automatically and is a safer mindset. No, we cannot carry weapons everywhere, every place. But not everyone needs to know we surely can.

[zephyp]

If you take what President Obama has actually spent (meaning those new spending bills he has approved), he has spent less than President Reagan, and each President Bush.

I'll let the chart at the link speak for itself...obummer owns the deficit and the economy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Fe ... ighted.png

[Reverenddel]

You know what I want removed as a gun law? Asking the ATF's permission to have a stamp to own a machine gun, SBR, silencer, or Shorty shotgun.

I think a background check by the local PD is sufficent. It all ties into one system now anyway...

You go to the local PD, you TELL them you're buying a "controlled device", they run the check, it comes back clean, you take the form to the dealer, you buy the gun.

Also, I want the ban on creating machine guns for public use to be eliminated. I shouldn't have to pay $10K for a full auto UZI, or M4 Carbine.

[rod]

You know what I want removed as a gun law? Asking the ATF's permission to have a stamp to own a machine gun, SBR, silencer, or Shorty shotgun.

I think a background check by the local PD is sufficent. It all ties into one system now anyway...

You go to the local PD, you TELL them you're buying a "controlled device", they run the check, it comes back clean, you take the form to the dealer, you buy the gun.

Also, I want the ban on creating machine guns for public use to be eliminated. I shouldn't have to pay $10K for a full auto UZI, or M4 Carbine.

Any chance you'd run for office? I'll vote for you.

[Tweaker]

You know what I want removed as a gun law? Asking the ATF's permission to have a stamp to own a machine gun, SBR, silencer, or Shorty shotgun.

I think a background check by the local PD is sufficent. It all ties into one system now anyway...

You go to the local PD, you TELL them you're buying a "controlled device", they run the check, it comes back clean, you take the form to the dealer, you buy the gun.

Also, I want the ban on creating machine guns for public use to be eliminated. I shouldn't have to pay $10K for a full auto UZI, or M4 Carbine.

I'd love to be able to pay $10,000 for a ($1500) M4. The going rate is now over $20,000. Freedom - How does it work? Someone explain it to congress.

[gatlingun6]

If you take what President Obama has actually spent (meaning those new spending bills he has approved), he has spent less than President Reagan, and each President Bush.

I'll let the chart at the link speak for itself...obummer owns the deficit and the economy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Fe ... ighted.png

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Nice try there Mr Z. That chart does not refute what I wrote. As an explanation of the deficit causation it's meaningless. Five items are responsible for 84 to 86% of federal expenditures. Defense, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest on the debt. Excepting Defense (DOD operates on a 5 year plan), The big 3 are part of Non-discretionary spending, which means unless Congress alters those programs spending conforms to program rules. Social Security and Medicare expenditures increased as Boomers started retiring. The economic downturn increased medicaid payments because more people became eligible. The Republicans decided they would rather shut down the government than allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for the upper quintile.

Instead of creating jobs that expenditure just led to further reductions in revenues, and no jobs. The $720 billion Tarp Program was signed into law by President Bush. All in all you can hit up President Obama for maybe $1 trillion. Your chart would make sense if all federal expenditures reset to 0 on inauguration day. As I said before it doesn't.

Btw let's not talk about tax extenders that also contribute to the deficit. Since Ronald Reagan's grand deal, lower taxes in return for stripping out most tax extenders, slowly but surely they have crept back into the tax code. With federal revenues as low as they were during the 60s and tax rates as low as they were in the 50s surely you're not for continued favorable tax treatment of Hedge Fund manager income, boats as second home, corporate jets, oil corporation subsidies, and more while punishing the middle class, are you?

Have a great 4th of Jul Mr Z

Gat6

[zephyp]

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[zephyp]

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