Reverenddel wrote:Soooo What you're saying is you trust the government to determine what is "Reasonable", because you cannot trust yourself, or other people.
WE are the government...remember? WE elect our local, state and federal representatives who, in turn, make decisions on what the governments do. You make it seem like the government is not a direct result of decisions YOU personally make. YOU personally make a decision in the ballot box and when you lobby your representatives and when you goin together in organizations to advocate for your positions. But don't forget WE includes your other neighbors and fellow citizens. What they think matters TOO! The net result is a compromise of representation and the laws and regulations that come from our votes and our lobbying. That is the way the system works. That is American as Apple Pie.
I guess you think that since you and your fellow 2A fundamentalists think the 2A gives you an ABSOLUTE and UNALTERABLE RIGHT to bear arms, that means the Supreme Court and the rest of the citizens of America are just supposed to consent?
NO right is unalterable or absolute. The right to assemble requires a permit for large groups. The right to privacy doesn't mean private and public institutions can't collect and hold your private information for legitimate private and public purposes. The right to privacy is not absolute. A journalist can be thrown into jail for not revealing a confidential source, for instance.
Fundamentalism about firearms is the root of the problem here. Once you decide that facts don't matter, and the Supreme Court and Government don't matter and you hold a "belief" in what the 2A means and what is should mean is delusional.
As a democrat and a liberal, I want to help you all understand the political realities of moving gun liberalization forward. Instead of the radical views espoused here about an absolute right, accept the current Court right as it is now defined, and rather that fighting that old fight, start focusing on the laws that matter in each jurisdiction.
Focus on changing laws that restrict transportation of firearms inside a private vehicle. Focus on laws that require guns be unloaded when being transported. Focus on education about firearms and gun safety. You need to help democrats and liberals become comfortable with the idea of liberalizing gun laws in an incremental way. THEN Democrats and Liberals can join the cause. But to go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about the 2A fundamentalism just alienates people and then Democrats and liberals won't help pass liberalization.
Whether you agree or not, the Supreme Court has ruled that the right is not absolute...govement has a right to regulate. So, help government and Democrats and Liberals see how regulation can be more reasonable.
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