A MUST READ

[MJB927]

at first i was like, "ok, maybe he has some point, even thought it was not presented well..."

and then you respond with :
"That means for those who didnt feel this applied to them didnt feel a need to respond and defend theirselves"

Now i just think your a total Ass Neck...

I myself think maybe it wasn't presented as well. But for those who really read it could kind of understand what I meant when I said it. I clearly hit home with those who felt the need to respond defensively. Because like I said if what I said didnt apply to how you were or felt you would read it & move on. Again that posted wasnt meant for everyone. I know for a fact this isnt a site filled with ignorant people, but there are some that are and the ones that got bent out of shape about what I said clearly must be some of those people. Now maybe not everyone who got bent out of shape have that mind set, that just goes back to maybe I presented differently from what I wanted to say. For there to be over 300 views and only 50 some odd post just shows that some came and read what I said and thought "well this doesnt apply to me so oh well."

[zephyp]

Anyone who truly read my first post would've understood I wasnt attacking everyone on here only those who fit what I was saying. So if you were one who fits the "shoe" of course you're going to respond in a negative matter.

I read your first post twice and had to go check to see if you had any others before passing judgment you had just registered merely for the fun of dropping a grenade in our midst...posting something like that in a place like this is asking for a war of words...most of those who passed by did so probably because they did not care to waste their time crafting a response - not because they felt they had no need to defend themselves...and many of those also knew that plenty would indeed post...most of the ones who have posted on this thread are active posters on many other topics as well...at any rate this could turn out to be an interesting discourse...

[MJB927]

at first i was like, "ok, maybe he has some point, even thought it was not presented well..."

and then you respond with :
"That means for those who didnt feel this applied to them didnt feel a need to respond and defend theirselves"

Now i just think your a total Ass Neck...

I myself think maybe it wasn't presented as well. But for those who really read it could kind of understand what I meant when I said it. I clearly hit home with those who felt the need to respond defensively. Because like I said if what I said didnt apply to how you were or felt you would read it & move on. Again that posted wasnt meant for everyone. I know for a fact this isnt a site filled with ignorant people, but there are some that are and the ones that got bent out of shape about what I said clearly must be some of those people. Now maybe not everyone who got bent out of shape have that mind set, that just goes back to maybe I presented differently from what I wanted to say. For there to be over 300 views and only 50 some odd post just shows that some came and read what I said and thought "well this doesnt apply to me so oh well."

I dont know anyone on here to be able to tell anyone how they are or what they think. I can only on what I've read from so of the people who felt the need to sound like bigots. It wasnt like everyone on a particular discussions just sat there and talked wrecklessly. But just reading a lot I've cam across quite a few disturbing post and thats pretty much all I was saying. I sold my hi point that I just used for the shooting range to someone off this site and he was very pleasant. I didnt join this site to start any crap, I dont have the time or real care for that. I joined this site originally just to sell my gun then I start looking at different things and enjoyed reading of the things then I started running across other post that I didnt enjoy reading. So this account wasnt made just to do some internet fighting like Im sure there have been other people who have made an account for that single purpose. Like I said before despite this whole post I plan on continuing to read other post and join in from time to time.

[frac]

So you DON'T want a war of words. Allow me to retort. W and Cheney and Reagan were not thugs, But both Clintons and Janet Reno are, along with Chavez and Castro. And I would still rather have them in the White House than Obama. Also, I think you are the sort of person that decries how we treated the American Indian, and then talks about how ignorant people are in Texas and Oklahoma. And watch it because I'm part Commanche. And yes, pants slung around your thighs are stupid. So to conclude this your sleeping-soundly-at-night-because-I-told-those-rednecks-off argument, I think you were instructed on how to do this (and call radio talk shows) by a liberal think think for beer money. Now, go get a haircut and a job. And to throw things off even more. There's not been any real country music since Hank Williams Sr Died, except for perhaps Motorhead, Social Distortion and the Dubliners.

[MJB927]

So you DON'T want a war of words. Allow me to retort. W and Cheney and Reagan were not thugs, But both Clintons and Janet Reno are, along with Chavez and Castro. And I would still rather have them in the White House than Obama. Also, I think you are the sort of person that decries how we treated the American Indian, and then talks about how ignorant people are in Texas and Oklahoma. And watch it because I'm part Commanche. And yes, pants slung around your thighs are stupid. So to conclude this your sleeping-soundly-at-night-because-I-told-those-rednecks-off argument, I think you were instructed on how to do this (and call radio talk shows) by a liberal think think for beer money. Now, go get a haircut and a job. And to throw things off even more. There's not been any real country music since Hank Williams Sr Died, except for perhaps Motorhead, Social Distortion and the Dubliners.

I agree with you, having your pants around your thighs is completely stupid. Again read the post and it clearly says " I know some of you have run across some shady characters." I myself carry a gun b/c of these characters. I know some people can be stupid and like to do stupid things. If you read SOME of the things I've read then you'd know why I said what I said. If you dont understand then oh well. I have also read things about the same thing I was talking about and I've actually agreed. Yes there are definitely some very very ignorant african american people. But there are also very ignorant white people and every race. Im just saying dont make it seem like those individuals represent the whole race. Thats really all im saying. Not every black person carries themselves in a manner that makes you want to throw up. As for the music... I myself dont like recently released rap songs because it sounds like trash, but not all is bad. But the music to me really wasnt the point in the post. I do have a haircut that I get every week and a job. I actually have a job that pays be 85k a year, that doesnt include any bonuses or the investments I've been making. So...check yourself.

[TheGodfather]

Anyone who truly read my first post would've understood I wasnt attacking everyone on here only those who fit what I was saying. So if you were one who fits the "shoe" of course you're going to respond in a negative matter.

Darn it! The youtube thing isn't working for me...mods, what am I doing wrong with the embed tool?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe500eIK1oA

Edit - fixed it for ya -- zephyp (DK) take only last part of the string - on this one its "Qe500eIK1oA" and put that in the you tube brackets...

[OakRidgeStars]

This thread is so far off topic now, why not add a Youtube posting instruction

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Viola! - U canz pozts youtubes

[DWinter]

I wonder if one of the admin guys started this thread to get our post count up.
Just kidding guys. This has been quite the thread.

[OakRidgeStars]

Maybe this thread just needs a little relaxing music to calm everyone down a little.

[zephyp]

[allingeneral]

[MJB927]

Nice to see the seriousness is being taken out of it. I say this is over and done with, atleast in my opinion. I said what I need to say and hopefully everyone else has done the same. Im sure there will be those who still want to talk because they cant just let it go but as far me Im done with this post.

[TheGodfather]

as far me Im done with this post.

Now where did I hear THAT before? Oh yeah! On the first page!

[wylde007]

AC/DC - TNT

HELL YEAH!

Why do images of N-Sync keep coming to mind with this guy?

Damn, dude.

I know you recanted your statement, but just in case: http://www.myspace.com.dreadline

We ain't fancy and we ain't claiming to be. We play loud and dirty rock-n-roll. No bulls**t, no presumptions.

[Unkn0wN]

This is the only thing I will add to this discussion and I am done with this thread! Period!

http://www.chodecircus.com/area51/

[Taggure]

Vern,
I actually dont have any problem with you whatsoever. This post wasn't posted talking about every single person on this site. The post was posted for those people who are the bigots and are stuck in their ways about their perception of African American people. When I first joined the site I didn't see much ignorance. As I started reading my post and looking at older ones it seemed like some were just talking about "black" people out of nowhere. One min they're talking about a gun then someone comes in and says some nonsense and I'm reading thinking "what does that have to do with this post" then that becomes the topic of discussion. Like I said in my post I actually really do like this site and despite this posting I'm still going to visit the site. Again I have nothing against you unless you're one who feels this unfortunate ignorant hatred for African Americans. Now maybe some may have misunderstood what I may have been trying to say.

Well as some of my best friends over the years have and still are African American, so I have no problems with race. I only have problems with A&* Holes and those come in all shapes and sizes and yes color as well. If you have a problem with an individual then call that individual out on what you disagree with and have a good natured debate about it. Please do not post a Must Read and generalize it as you did because that is not well taken as you can see. I have to admit I was upset about it when I first read your comments and waited to see the mood of the thread, and you not only stirred the hornets nest but you kicked it in the stream.
I guess that is one way to get attention but not really the smartest way. The moderators here try to keep an even tone, and if you had tried to talk to one of them you might have had better results.

Vern

[Taggure]

This thread is so far off topic now, why not add a Youtube posting instruction

Code: Select all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe500eIK1oA

Take the data after the ?V=

Which is Qe500eIK1oA

Click the Youtube button above

Enter the unique data, such as Qe500eIK1oA

Code: Select all

[youtube]Qe500eIK1oA[/youtube]

Viola! - U canz pozts youtubes

Thanks I needed that

[KaosDad]

To the OP: First, welcome to VGOF. I hope you learn something new everyday here, as I do.

However, if you are going to continue to post here, please, grammar and punctuation are your buddies. Expecially the comma. Cute lil' guy, ain't he?

Also, remember what we post here, for the most part, are opinions. Opinions are like butt holes. We all have one, and they all stink. Ask the guy in the follow on post.

Next; dude - you are so WRONG. I am a relative n00b here and have met some of these folks exactly ONCE (see the Culpeper SnG threads). I would trust my kids with the folks I met at Culpeper. When these folks start talking about "thugs," and "gangstas," and such - that's exactly what they mean. Trust me, there are more than enough white gangstas than we really need:




Last; citations. If you are saying there are racist remarks on this forum, cite them. Either by linkages or quotes, but point them out. I can log on to any forum on the webbernets and start to shout "RACIST!" or "SEXIST!" or "ANTI-BUNNY!!!" and scurry off to watch the fun. That's a troll.

So, contribute, have fun, learn. If you poke the hornet's nest, have good wool sweater on.

[MJB927]

Vern,
I actually dont have any problem with you whatsoever. This post wasn't posted talking about every single person on this site. The post was posted for those people who are the bigots and are stuck in their ways about their perception of African American people. When I first joined the site I didn't see much ignorance. As I started reading my post and looking at older ones it seemed like some were just talking about "black" people out of nowhere. One min they're talking about a gun then someone comes in and says some nonsense and I'm reading thinking "what does that have to do with this post" then that becomes the topic of discussion. Like I said in my post I actually really do like this site and despite this posting I'm still going to visit the site. Again I have nothing against you unless you're one who feels this unfortunate ignorant hatred for African Americans. Now maybe some may have misunderstood what I may have been trying to say.

Well as some of my best friends over the years have and still are African American, so I have no problems with race. I only have problems with A&* Holes and those come in all shapes and sizes and yes color as well. If you have a problem with an individual then call that individual out on what you disagree with and have a good natured debate about it. Please do not post a Must Read and generalize it as you did because that is not well taken as you can see. I have to admit I was upset about it when I first read your comments and waited to see the mood of the thread, and you not only stirred the hornets nest but you kicked it in the stream.
I guess that is one way to get attention but not really the smartest way. The moderators here try to keep an even tone, and if you had tried to talk to one of them you might have had better results.

Vern

Vern,

I agree I believe I did go about it the wrong way. From personally meeting you I do apologize if you took offense to it. My intent really wasn't the way actually turned out. I should've took a different approach. I really didnt want it to turn out like this, nor did I think it would. I then should've clarified a lil better instead of making it bigger. But this is done now. I hope the gun worked out for you when you went to the range Thursday.

[firstcavapache64]

Nice to see the seriousness is being taken out of it. I say this is over and done with, atleast in my opinion. I said what I need to say and hopefully everyone else has done the same. Im sure there will be those who still want to talk because they cant just let it go but as far me Im done with this post.

Well I can only speak for myself but it's a little late to take the seriousness out of it. When you say crap like "Lol, do the rednecks feel upset with what I had to say??? You all just proved my point about how lame some of the faggots are on here. The majority of you that are on here are probably sloppy fat xxxxx that wouldn't know what to do with yourselves if this was a face to face discussion. I'd probably have most of ya'll xxxxxxx yourselves" I tend to have a longer memory than 4 forum pages but that's just me. The best thing about this forum is after I have enough of moronic trolls like you I just stop reading what you say. I have been searching all over the forum for the rampant racism you described but so far, no luck. Guess I am not politically correct enough or I just don't reside in the United States of the Offended like you do. I am sure in time I will be singled out for retraining in the socialist sensitivity camp.