New shooting range in Woodbridge
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graybeard321
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New shooting range in Woodbridge
Last November the Prince William County Board of Supervisors approved a new range in Woodbrige. We were told it would open in March. I drive by the site serveral times a week and have seen no activity. Does anyone know the status of the new Range and when it is supposed to open?
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Moccasin
Re: New shooting range in Woodbridge
You are about the 3rd or 4th person to bring this up. Nobody has been able to provide an answer yet.
Re: New shooting range in Woodbridge
I recall reading somewhere that the new location would not be at the old location.
Re: New shooting range in Woodbridge
This was sent out to the VCDL membership on 11/19/2008
VCDL - your efforts paid off!
Last night the new range proposed for Woodbridge was approved by a 7 to 1 vote by the Prince William County Board of Supervisors (BoS)!
About fifty gun owners, mostly VCDL members from the Prince William County area, showed up for the hearing. Everyone was given a "Guns Save Lives" sticker.
When the time came for the range to be considered, pro-gun BoS member and Chairman At-Large, Corey Stewart, said, "And now for the good stuff!" Laughter broke out from all parts of the room!
The objectionable language from the County had all been REMOVED (banning loaded guns being carried to/from the parking lot, no cleaning of guns except for law enforcement, and ammunition restrictions).
Sixteen or so gun owners chose to speak.
There was only one person who spoke against the range, citing that the range was near a church and a school. (The church had given its, er, blessing, to the range already, BTW).
There was an interesting exchange during the question/answer session between the BoS and the range owner, Jack Andresen.
BoS member Frank J. Principi, who was fully against the range from the beginning, started pressuring Mr. Andresen to commit ON THE SPOT to put in a bunch of restrictions in his rules for the range. The pressure and tension in the room were palpable. The rest of the Board was clearly uncomfortable with what Mr. Principi was trying to do.
Finally, Mr. Stewart had had enough. He asked the County Attorney to confirm that the County could not require, nor enforce, the range doing ANY of the things that Mr. Principi was asking the range to do, even if Mr. Andresen were to agree to any of the items there at the meeting.
The County Attorney confirmed that to be true.
Mr. Stewart then ***dressed-down Mr. Principi*** for Principi's attempts to intimidate and pressure Mr. Andresen into making commitments, both under pressure and on the spot, that were not enforceable anyhow!
I have NEVER seen such a dressing-down of a BoS member by another before in a public meeting! But, Mr. Principi deserved every bit of it for acting like a tyrant. I wanted to cheer, quite frankly, but sat quietly along with everyone else during that exchange!
Good job, Mr. Stewart!
To show the mood in the room last night, BoS member Martin Nohe went so far as to correct one speaker who had said that the Second Amendment was a Constitutional right. Mr. Nohe said that the Second Amendment was a God-given right, not a Constitutional Right.
The room broke out in applause!
The one woman on the BoS, Maureen Caddigan, then moved quickly and proudly to make the motion to approve the range, much to the disappointment of other BoS members who wanted to do the motion, but were not as fast as she was!
If only the Norfolk City Council had even one person who was one-tenth as good as that!
The motion was seconded and passed, with all but Mr. Principi, voting in favor of the range.
Mr. Princi's reason for not supporting the range? He said because of all the gang members that hang out around the mall area, that the range being at that location would be a bad idea!
WHAT????? With a police substation at the range, lots of police training there, and lots of law-abiding citizens armed in the area???
Oh, sorry, my head almost exploded for a second there. Hopefully your head is OK, too. I should have warned you to get out the duct tape.
My fault: I accidentally tried to apply logic and reason to the statements of an anti-gunner.
With the vote over, the room all but cleared out.
GOOD NEWS FOR VCDL MEMBERS
The range should be completed around the March 2009 timeframe. Mr.
Andresen told me that when the range was ready, that VCDL would be invited to be the first group to have a shoot at the range, giving the staff a chance to work out any bugs before the official opening!
I will, of course, let you all know once we have a firm date for the shoot and what, exactly, the rules of the shoot are going to be!
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BREAKING INFORMATION
Jack Andresen just sent me this to be passed on to you:
"As of last night, Northern Virginia has a new indoor shooting range, The Shooters' Range, Inc.
This came about as the result of a lot of hard work by a good group of people, not the least of which were the members of VCDL.
To just say thank you never quite seems enough, but, THANK YOU!!
To those of you who were able to come to speak on our behalf I want to convey a special thanks. Your presence was appreciated more than can ever be said.
Over the years, I have learned that you never forget a friend. Thank You, VCDL!
Jack Andresen"
VCDL - your efforts paid off!
Last night the new range proposed for Woodbridge was approved by a 7 to 1 vote by the Prince William County Board of Supervisors (BoS)!
About fifty gun owners, mostly VCDL members from the Prince William County area, showed up for the hearing. Everyone was given a "Guns Save Lives" sticker.
When the time came for the range to be considered, pro-gun BoS member and Chairman At-Large, Corey Stewart, said, "And now for the good stuff!" Laughter broke out from all parts of the room!
The objectionable language from the County had all been REMOVED (banning loaded guns being carried to/from the parking lot, no cleaning of guns except for law enforcement, and ammunition restrictions).
Sixteen or so gun owners chose to speak.
There was only one person who spoke against the range, citing that the range was near a church and a school. (The church had given its, er, blessing, to the range already, BTW).
There was an interesting exchange during the question/answer session between the BoS and the range owner, Jack Andresen.
BoS member Frank J. Principi, who was fully against the range from the beginning, started pressuring Mr. Andresen to commit ON THE SPOT to put in a bunch of restrictions in his rules for the range. The pressure and tension in the room were palpable. The rest of the Board was clearly uncomfortable with what Mr. Principi was trying to do.
Finally, Mr. Stewart had had enough. He asked the County Attorney to confirm that the County could not require, nor enforce, the range doing ANY of the things that Mr. Principi was asking the range to do, even if Mr. Andresen were to agree to any of the items there at the meeting.
The County Attorney confirmed that to be true.
Mr. Stewart then ***dressed-down Mr. Principi*** for Principi's attempts to intimidate and pressure Mr. Andresen into making commitments, both under pressure and on the spot, that were not enforceable anyhow!
I have NEVER seen such a dressing-down of a BoS member by another before in a public meeting! But, Mr. Principi deserved every bit of it for acting like a tyrant. I wanted to cheer, quite frankly, but sat quietly along with everyone else during that exchange!
Good job, Mr. Stewart!
To show the mood in the room last night, BoS member Martin Nohe went so far as to correct one speaker who had said that the Second Amendment was a Constitutional right. Mr. Nohe said that the Second Amendment was a God-given right, not a Constitutional Right.
The room broke out in applause!
The one woman on the BoS, Maureen Caddigan, then moved quickly and proudly to make the motion to approve the range, much to the disappointment of other BoS members who wanted to do the motion, but were not as fast as she was!
If only the Norfolk City Council had even one person who was one-tenth as good as that!
The motion was seconded and passed, with all but Mr. Principi, voting in favor of the range.
Mr. Princi's reason for not supporting the range? He said because of all the gang members that hang out around the mall area, that the range being at that location would be a bad idea!
WHAT????? With a police substation at the range, lots of police training there, and lots of law-abiding citizens armed in the area???
Oh, sorry, my head almost exploded for a second there. Hopefully your head is OK, too. I should have warned you to get out the duct tape.
My fault: I accidentally tried to apply logic and reason to the statements of an anti-gunner.
With the vote over, the room all but cleared out.
GOOD NEWS FOR VCDL MEMBERS
The range should be completed around the March 2009 timeframe. Mr.
Andresen told me that when the range was ready, that VCDL would be invited to be the first group to have a shoot at the range, giving the staff a chance to work out any bugs before the official opening!
I will, of course, let you all know once we have a firm date for the shoot and what, exactly, the rules of the shoot are going to be!
--
BREAKING INFORMATION
Jack Andresen just sent me this to be passed on to you:
"As of last night, Northern Virginia has a new indoor shooting range, The Shooters' Range, Inc.
This came about as the result of a lot of hard work by a good group of people, not the least of which were the members of VCDL.
To just say thank you never quite seems enough, but, THANK YOU!!
To those of you who were able to come to speak on our behalf I want to convey a special thanks. Your presence was appreciated more than can ever be said.
Over the years, I have learned that you never forget a friend. Thank You, VCDL!
Jack Andresen"
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Moccasin
Re: New shooting range in Woodbridge
Same info we've had, nobody seems to able to confirm that the range has actually been built or is under construction. It was supposed to be done this spring.
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graybeard321
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Re: New shooting range in Woodbridge
I ran into one of the rangemasters I know from shooters Paradise and he told me that the owner of the new range run into some money issues and the new range will not be opening. Don't know if it is true I have emailed the VCDL to see if I can get any information.