And for the Birthers...(me too!)

[zephyp]

http://americangrandjury.org/investigat ... university


Investigators declare, “Obama never attended Columbia University”
February 8th, 2010

American Grand Jury has archived extensive records over the past year which we used in our jury hearings. We now believe beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama is not a “natural born” citizen and it is even possible that he may be an illegal alien.

We also have records showing the Democratic National Convention fraudulently declared Obama constitutionally eligible while never vetting the “natural born” requirement with the electorate.

Now, new evidence has come to light whereby Dr. James Manning has declared that Obama never attended Columbia University [New York].

Dr. Manning has hired a team of investigators to comb over every bit of available evidence to validate his declaration.

Manning’s investigators conclusively state that:

1) Columbia University will not divulge whether the “alleged” diploma issued was in the name of Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama. No public record exists regarding the diploma.

2) Obama alleges he attended Columbia in 1982, 1983. But, the investigators have been UNABLE to turn up a single shred of written documentation for the years 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 that show where Obama appeared on a school roster, register, faculty memo, bulletin board, school awards, dean’s list; where Obama’s name appeared in a yearbook, club record, fraternity record, extra curricular activity member roster, student newspaper, student radio or tv activity; where Obama appeared in any records as a worker, employee, laborer in or about Columbia University; where Obama enrolled in any sports activity or program.

3) As a graduating senior in 1983 he does not appear in any Political Science (his major) or Granduating Class yearbook or invitation records.

4) There is absolutely no documentation of any kind to show Obama attended, lived, worked or played at Columbia University during the investigated 4 years.

5) Interviewed professors, college employees, students (who were at Columbia during the years in question) have failed to turn up a single person that can remember Obama. This is irrefutable evidence. Think about your own situation if Obama had attended your college? A “now-famous” person went to your school? Many would be able to say, “of course I remember.” At Columbia, not a single person has been able to say he or she remembers Obama.

[OakRidgeStars]

[zephyp]

Party pooper...

[GS78]

[zephyp]

oops. I guess Jay is right. snopes debunked this one...

Seriously...how can we be so sure he isnt a natural born citizen? Just because several people say so and others call those who believe otherwise childish names like birthers?

Show us concrete proof and evidence. Until then there is a shadow of doubt...

[wally626]

The US Government accepts a US passport as proof of citizenship, he has one of those so at some time or another he provided the Passport Office sufficient evidence of citizenship. His papers list his birthplace as Honolulu so he is natural born.

We just sent my wife's original Birth Certificate in for a passport. The certificate lacked her middle name and spelled the name of the state wrong. I'm glad she is not running for anything. Yes, she did get her passport.

[zephyp]

The US Government accepts a US passport as proof of citizenship, he has one of those so at some time or another he provided the Passport Office sufficient evidence of citizenship. His papers list his birthplace as Honolulu so he is natural born.

We just sent my wife's original Birth Certificate in for a passport. The certificate lacked her middle name and spelled the name of the state wrong. I'm glad she is not running for anything. Yes, she did get her passport.

You can get a passport with a short for birth certificate. Why is there still so much he wont show. Why still so much news. Why wont he just release his long form birth certificate and college records...just sayin...he's lied about everything else...why not this...

[wylde007]

How did he travel to Pakistan i n the '80s?

Naturalized citizens can get a U.S. passport. You don't have to be born here.

[zephyp]

How did he travel to Pakistan i n the '80s?

Naturalized citizens can get a U.S. passport. You don't have to be born here.

Indeed you can...

[Flavet]

I trust everyone here has heard the word "Mole" or am I just making it up.

[ProShooter]

No one will ever convince me that Obama was born in the US

[zephyp]

No one will ever convince me that Obama was born in the US

Hey. One of us...

[KennyS]

Snopes in some cases has been as NBC is to fox.

[FordTek]

No one will ever convince me that Obama was born in the US

They can convince me as soon as they figure out which hospital he was born in, he has reported more than one. And as soon as they show me the long form birth certificate that shows his pretty foot print. You know, the one he went to Hawaii to have locked away by the governor before the election...

[ProShooter]

No one will ever convince me that Obama was born in the US

They can convince me as soon as they figure out which hospital he was born in, he has reported more than one. And as soon as they show me the long form birth certificate that shows his pretty foot print. You know, the one he went to Hawaii to have locked away by the governor before the election...

2 interesting things in regards to that....

When Obama was born (in Kenya) in 1961?, Hawaii had only been a state for 2 years. A person could walk into a hospital with a newborn and say that the baby was born at home. The hospital would assume that to be true and would just issue a birth certificate. Things were not as structured as they are today.

Also, the airlines wouldnt have let a pregnant woman who was so far along fly in 1961. So his mother couldnt have flown while very late in her pregnancy and he couldnt have been born after they arrived in Hawaii.

[FordTek]

2 interesting things in regards to that....

Very interesting indeed....

[zephyp]

World Net Daily has followed this from the beginning. They present most of the stories and pose some interesting points. If you're not familiar WND is one of the most conservative Christian based outlets on the net....and, yes they do have some tin-foil hat material...

Scroll down about mid way to the Born in the USA? section -- http://www.wnd.com/

[GS78]

I think Obama loves this stuff. The more people push this issue, the easier it is for the Obama team to criticize them and render them ineffective.

[zephyp]

I think Obama loves this stuff. The more people push this issue, the easier it is for the Obama team to criticize them and render them ineffective.

That is indeed the downside to things like this...makes us all look like

[GS78]

How did he travel to Pakistan i n the '80s?

Naturalized citizens can get a U.S. passport. You don't have to be born here.

you dont have to go that far back to track Obama Islamic adventures, he wrote most of his book "dreams of my father" while in Indonesia in the early 90's ......just before he became a superstar in chicago politics....