zephyp wrote:Yes, but where else is there?
And that's where secession comes in. We
BECOME our own country. Yes, founded upon lands formerly of the Union of Social States, but a separate, free country nonetheless.
Virginia2AM wrote:yep, just as it was said by Abe (before he betrayed the idea):
"Any people, anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
[snip]
Hear, hear!
OakRidgeStars wrote:Next year will be the 400th anniversary of my family settling in Virginia. I'm not going anywhere.
I'll fight before I run.
For Virginia. For Dixie. Just as Lee and Jackson envisioned. They fought against the injustices they saw emanating from the overreaching federal government. As such, you completely contradict yourself in the following, as you can have a free Virginia or you can have the federal union. The two are mutually exclusive.
Besides, there's nothing going on in Washington right now that can't be undone in another year or so. I happen to think this is the greatest country in the world because we are all united. And, yes that includes California too. My flag has fifty stars. It's not going anywhere either.
Bollocks. What's going on in Washington has been going on for 150 years. It cannot be undone by the wave of a wand or the turn of a switch. The despotism and debauchery is firmly entrenched in that despicable cesspool and they will not give up all of their ill-gotten power in a single election cycle. You're absolutely delusional if you think the ballot box is going to change the course of this decrepit country.
Virginia can only be free when your "fifty" stars are dispersed to their own ends. Perhaps some of them will coalesce into other arrangements, but the fifty you know and love is disgusting and revolting to liberty. It is ruled by a bureaucratic democracy, not rule of law and certainly not by the authority of the
PEOPLE.