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State to 'spy' on every phone call, email and web search
Every phone call, text message, email and website visit made by private citizens is to be stored for a year and will be available for monitoring by government bodies.
By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent
Published: 7:00AM GMT 10 Nov 2009
All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customer’s personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the websites they have visited.
Despite widespread opposition to the increasing amount of surveillance in Britain, 653 public bodies will be given access to the information, including police, local councils, the Financial Services Authority, the ambulance service, fire authorities and even prison governors.
They will not require the permission of a judge or a magistrate to obtain the information, but simply the authorisation of a senior police officer or the equivalent of a deputy head of department at a local authority.
Ministers had originally wanted to store the information on a single government-run database, but chose not to because of privacy concerns.
However the Government announced yesterday it was pressing ahead with privately held “Big Brother” databases that opposition leaders said amounted to “state-spying” and a form of “covert surveillance” on the public.
It is doing so despite its own consultation showing that it has little public support.
The Home Office admitted that only one third of respondents to its six-month consultation on the issue supported its proposals, with 50 per cent fearing that the scheme lacked sufficient safeguards to protect the highly personal data from abuse.
The new law will increase the amount of personal data that can be obtained by officials through the controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA), which is supposed to be used for fighting terrorism.
Although most private firms already hold details of every customer’s private calls and emails for their own business purposes, most only do so on an ad hoc basis and only for a period of several months.
The new rules, known as the Intercept Modernisation Programme, will not only force communications companies to keep their records for longer, but to expand the type of data they keep to include details of every website their customers visit, effectively registering every online click.
While public authorities will not be able to view the contents of these emails or phone calls, they can see the internet addresses, dates, times and identify recipients of calls.
Firms involved in storing the data, including Orange, BT and Vodafone, will be reimbursed at a cost to the taxpayer of £2 billion over 10 years.
Chris Grayling, the shadow home secretary, said he had fears about the abuse of the data. He said: “The big danger in all of this is 'mission creep’. This government keeps on introducing new powers to tackle terrorism and organised crime which end up being used for completely different purposes. We have to stop that from happening”.
David Davis, the former shadow home secretary, added: “Whilst this is no doubt necessary in pursuing terrorist suspects, the proposals are so intrusive that they should be subject to legal approval, and should not be available except in pursuit of the most serious crimes.”
The Information Commissioner’s Office also opposed the moves.
“The Information Commissioner believes that the case has yet to be made for the collection and processing of additional communications data for the population as a whole being relevant and not excessive,” a spokesman said.
Chris Huhne, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, has criticised the amount the scheme will cost for what he said is effectively “state spying”.
He added yesterday: “It is simply not that easy to separate the bare details of a call from its content. What if a leading business person is ringing Alcoholics Anonymous?”
Ministers said that they still have to work with the communications industry to find the correct way of framing the proposal in law — meaning it will not come before Parliament until after the general election. But the Home Office yesterday insisted it would push the legislation through. Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, originally released a consultation paper in April.
Only 29 per cent of respondents supported the Government approach. Meanwhile the communications providers themselves questioned the cost of the scheme and whether it was even technically feasible.
John Yates, Britain’s head of anti-terrorism, has argued that the legislation is vital for his investigators.
David Hanson, the Home Office minister, said: “The consultation showed widespread recognition of the importance of communications data in protecting the public .. we will now work with communications service providers and others to develop these proposals, and aim to introduce necessary legislation as soon as possible.”
Bigger Big Brother Coming to a British Isle Near You
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No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...


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good god...!!
and i thought our big brother was bad...
and, they have already dis-armed them...me thinks, ultimatley, this doesn't bode or end well for the english citizens...
and this will just create an entire underground of the untrackable"cyber-hook up" criminals in the UK...these people are playing in technilogical arenas that they have no concept of...
and they have forgot that nessecity is the mother of invention...
and i thought our big brother was bad...
and, they have already dis-armed them...me thinks, ultimatley, this doesn't bode or end well for the english citizens...
and this will just create an entire underground of the untrackable"cyber-hook up" criminals in the UK...these people are playing in technilogical arenas that they have no concept of...
and they have forgot that nessecity is the mother of invention...
Be particular, and be vigilant, as the enemy will only attack on two occasions:
When you're ready or when you're not ready.
Also never forget, that everyone who shows up, is not necessarily there to help.
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When you're ready or when you're not ready.
Also never forget, that everyone who shows up, is not necessarily there to help.
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Re: Bigger Big Brother Coming to a British Isle Near You
NOOOoooo, Not Britain!!! Me thinks this doesn't bode well. I may be charged with having a pre-9/11 mentality but I don't want to be "Safe" if it means giving the gov't that kind of power.
Those who give up their rights in exchange for security deserve neither.
Truer words have not been spoken.
Those who give up their rights in exchange for security deserve neither.
Truer words have not been spoken.

"Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts
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Re: Bigger Big Brother Coming to a British Isle Near You
This is coming here as well. The people behind barrack hussien obama are going to steer this country in the same direction. Once they force everyone onto the government boob, they will control every aspect of your life, just like they do now with urban democrat voters... 

'those who hammer their guns into plows , will plow for those who don't'
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That is totally insane. Let us hope that does not happen here.
Amen.Those who give up their rights in exchange for security deserve neither.
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Yup. Ya got that one right. Unless we stop em.GS78 wrote:This is coming here as well. The people behind barrack hussien obama are going to steer this country in the same direction. Once they force everyone onto the government boob, they will control every aspect of your life, just like they do now with urban democrat voters...
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...

