Libertarian VP candidate
Libertarian VP candidate
Did a little surface digging on Weld, and this is what I came up with:
1. Wildly popular in highly progressive/liberal Massachusetts.
2. Re-elected by the widest margin in state history in 1994 (remember he ran as a Republican).
3. Called for a state-wide ban on assault weapons
4. Waiting period for handgun purchases
5. Prohibition on handgun ownership under 21 years
6. Called all this “common sense” legislation (that phrase sound familiar?)
7. Favors affirmative action (a.k.a. – class warfare)
8. Staunch supporter of EPA
9. Supported EPA requirement to force auto manufacturers to build more electric cars
10. Supported eminent domain (confiscation of private property without just compensation) for affordable housing.
And this guy is now running as a Libertarian? He comes nowhere close to making that cut. Don’t want anyone like this one step away from the oval office.
I have contacted Gary Johnson's campaign asking for clarification on Weld's 2A stance. Nothing yet.
1. Wildly popular in highly progressive/liberal Massachusetts.
2. Re-elected by the widest margin in state history in 1994 (remember he ran as a Republican).
3. Called for a state-wide ban on assault weapons
4. Waiting period for handgun purchases
5. Prohibition on handgun ownership under 21 years
6. Called all this “common sense” legislation (that phrase sound familiar?)
7. Favors affirmative action (a.k.a. – class warfare)
8. Staunch supporter of EPA
9. Supported EPA requirement to force auto manufacturers to build more electric cars
10. Supported eminent domain (confiscation of private property without just compensation) for affordable housing.
And this guy is now running as a Libertarian? He comes nowhere close to making that cut. Don’t want anyone like this one step away from the oval office.
I have contacted Gary Johnson's campaign asking for clarification on Weld's 2A stance. Nothing yet.
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Here you go from the man himself.Swampman wrote: I have contacted Gary Johnson's campaign asking for clarification on Weld's 2A stance. Nothing yet.
http://www.redstate.com/williamweld/201 ... -firearms/
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1. In 2012, Trump tweeted that President Barack Obama had "spoken for me and every American" in his remarks at a vigil for the Newtown school shooting victims.Swampman wrote:Don’t want anyone like this one step away from the oval office.
2. "When I said that if, within the Orlando club, you had some people with guns, I was obviously talking about additional guards or employees" (not patrons)
3. Back in 2000, Trump, in his book "The America We Deserve," said he supported the 1994 federal assault weapons ban.
4. "I generally oppose gun control," he wrote then, "but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."
5. "I don't want to have guns in classrooms," Trump said in May, "although in some cases teachers should have guns in classrooms, frankly." (so yes to guns in classrooms or no?)
6. "We have to make sure that people that are terrorists or have even an inclination toward terrorism cannot buy weapons, guns," the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said in an interview to air Sunday on "This Week." When asked if his position is that those on the terrorist watchlist shouldn't be able to purchase a gun, Trump responded, "I'd like to see that, and I'd like to say it. And it's simpler. It's just simpler."
I just wanted to make sure you're ok with someone like that actually in the oval office.
Re: Libertarian VP candidate
Really Bill? Where does the 2A spell that out? If that did indeed come out of Heller, it is the opinion of a judge, not of a constitutional nature. The 2A does not distinguish any difference in "killing power" of any firearm. All firearms are capable of killing. The 2A isn't about killing, it's about the right to self-protection. Nothing more, nothing less.As Heller itself recognized, the Second Amendment doesn't mean that certain weapons with extraordinary killing power are not subject to regulation.
Once again, an extra-constitutional interpretation.While the Heller decision affirmed the individual’s right to keep and bear arms, it also affirmed that the Constitution specifically permits "laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms".
So now he wouldn't impose a ban on so-called assault weapons? He's allowed to change his positions with impunity, but Trump is castigated for doing the same exact thing?I support the Constitutional right to keep and bear firearms.
You may have made up your mind, but I'm not done researching yet. I'm in the same boat as a lot of people. I don't trust Trump OR Weld. I do, at least at this point, trust Johnson. The obvious difference between Trump and Weld will be the position they hold. Trump will have more latitude in the decision making process, where Weld will not. Weld has been a moderate Republican (Democrat-lite) his whole career and now wants us to believe he has moved to the right of Genghis Khan? Having a difficult time with that. Of course Trump has done the same thing. Having a hard time with that as well.
The predicament we all face is: do we want Obama on the SCOTUS? We have a little more than 60 days until the election. A lot can happen in that time. No one can predict it. I've not made up my mind, and probably won't until days or even hours before I vote. I will vote my conscience and what happens is out of my control. The system is completely rigged anyway.
One last observation - the last paragraph in Weld's OP-ED appears to be written by someone else. Was that mistakenly left in there by the other person who wrote that piece? Weld claims authorship. Trust no one.
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Re: Libertarian VP candidate
Not at all friend, I'm right there with you. Just making sure the standards of judgement are the same because a lot of people are willing to criticize Weld while ignoring Trump's past statements.Swampman wrote:
So now he wouldn't impose a ban on so-called assault weapons? He's allowed to change his positions with impunity, but Trump is castigated for doing the same exact thing?
You may have made up your mind, but I'm not done researching yet.
I agree with you about Weld's stance on 2A "I support 2A*" (*some restrictions apply) and many people are unhappy with it as well. At least Johnson has publicly stated that he himself is not a gun person, but he won't do anything to stop you from having a gun. I just don't want anyone getting any delusions that Trump is going to try and repeal the NFA or GCA either.
The difference between Weld and Trump is that Weld has publicly acknowledged that he doesn't like automatics whereas Trump hasn't touched on the topic. Trump has nibbled around the edges on his website hoping that mentioning those few topics will appease 2A supporters, but no one has pressed him on how far his 2A support actually goes (I personally think it doesn't extend past the few topics he's mentioned on his website).
Re: Libertarian VP candidate
My motto this year - #2016theyallsuck
I've not seen an election process like this in my 59 years. I'm afraid this is becoming the norm. I hope I'm wrong.
I'd really like to see the other two candidates (Gary Johnson and Jill Stein) on the debate stage, but the political conglomerate won't allow it. Don't much care for Jill Stein much like I never cared for Ralph Nader. Gary Johnson seems to be the lesser of two weasels when compared to Trump. I don't trust any of them anymore.
I've not seen an election process like this in my 59 years. I'm afraid this is becoming the norm. I hope I'm wrong.
I'd really like to see the other two candidates (Gary Johnson and Jill Stein) on the debate stage, but the political conglomerate won't allow it. Don't much care for Jill Stein much like I never cared for Ralph Nader. Gary Johnson seems to be the lesser of two weasels when compared to Trump. I don't trust any of them anymore.
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As long the gun you want isn't a black, scary looking assault type. Those should be banned.ShotgunBlast wrote:Swampman wrote:
At least Johnson has publicly stated that he himself is not a gun person, but he won't do anything to stop you from having a gun.
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party - Mao Tse Tung
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Did Johnson say that?
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I did not read about him saying that, but his mate did it
http://www.upi.com/Archives/1993/09/29/ ... 749275200/
http://www.upi.com/Archives/1993/09/29/ ... 749275200/
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party - Mao Tse Tung
Re: Libertarian VP candidate
I did support them, but they have scandals, they don't reply to any questions and they push liberal agenda. Their 2nd Amendment stance is really questionable, they are all in for illegal immigration, not to mention they just LOVE the Black Lives Matter group. I'm Libertarian, but no thank you. I don't think they act like Libertarians.
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Johnson and Weld claimed to be Republicans until they couldn't get on the ballot as Republicans. Oh wait, there's a spot on the Libertarian ticket! I don't trust political chameleons, that means all of them. I have some relatives that have turned to the Libertarian ticket. They preach that the only way to break the strangle-hold of the two-party system is vote third party. Well, if you want to vote blindly then go ahead. Me, I'll wait for a real Libertarian to show up before I go down that road.
Let's face it, Hillary is gonna win. Voting for Trump is symbolic at best. It's the anti-Hillary vote. I've beat this horse until it's dead and pulverized. Don't know why I thought I might be able to vote this year without holding my nose.
Let's face it, Hillary is gonna win. Voting for Trump is symbolic at best. It's the anti-Hillary vote. I've beat this horse until it's dead and pulverized. Don't know why I thought I might be able to vote this year without holding my nose.
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My signals tell me something else. Unless is blatant rigging of the vote, Trump should win with at least 5% in the popular vote.
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party - Mao Tse Tung
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The choice is hitlery or not. Simple.
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If Trump wins with less than 5%, it'll be Trump v Clinton. Who do you think SCOTUS will side with this time?kelu wrote:My signals tell me something else. Unless is blatant rigging of the vote, Trump should win with at least 5% in the popular vote.
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