ACTION ITEM: Comment on permanent state-agency gun ban!

[OakRidgeStars]

VA-ALERT: IMPORTANT ACTION ITEM: Comment on permanent state-agency gun ban!

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The Governor has an “emergency” state-agency gun ban in place. That emergency ban runs out in 18 months. What will follow it, is a permanent gun ban.

The permanent gun ban is being done following the normal method - it is listed in the Regulatory Town Hall and is required to get comments from the public for about six weeks. I am told by someone who would know that if we can provide an overwhelming number of comments providing good reasons for the regulation not to be implemented, we stand a chance of stopping the regulation if the press picks up on the issue and runs with it.

Simply urging the Governor to drop the idea is a waste of time, as he has already made up his mind. We want to get the attention of the press and others.

As a bonus, with a huge negative response, the Governor cannot point to the Regulatory Town Hall and say that no one responded because they agree with what he is doing!

Unlike letters and email sent to the Governor, which he can hide from disclosure by placing them in his “Governor’s working papers,” your comments in the Regulatory Town Hall are public and visible to all.

Another important note. If at least 25 of us also request that the comment period be extended, it will get another 30 days added to the cut-off date (currently January 27th).

Here is the link where you can enter your comments:

http://www.townhall.virginia.gov/L/Comm ... ageID=7379

Click “Enter a comment”

Fill in your name, email address.

Suggested Subject/Title: Something like “This regulation is dangerous to public safety,” or “Why deny Virginia citizens right to self-defense?” or “Government buildings are targets of terrorism, why make it easier for terrorists to succeed?” (Whatever title you decide on, make sure it is clear by just reading the title that you oppose the regulation. Don’t depend on someone reading your message to figure out your position.)

Suggested message:

This proposed regulation will have the opposite of the intended affect by playing into the hands of terrorists, violent criminals, and the criminally insane. We have had no shootings in state agencies and this prohibition on those with a concealed handgun permit, some of whom have active and ongoing threats to their lives, is entirely without any justification and needlessly and recklessly endangers innocent lives.

Disarming good citizens (who are the only ones likely to obey the prohibition) does not make them safer.

Importantly the Governor has no authority for this regulation. If the General Assembly wanted the Governor to have such power, they would have granted it to him explicitly, as is required constitutionally.

This proposed regulation is a solution for which there is no problem. It endangers state employees, law abiding citizens, and the innocent by making state buildings a safe zone for terrorists, criminals, and the criminally insane to conduct their evil and savage actions.

This regulations should not be approved and the emergency regulation withdrawn.

Please extended the comment period for another 30 days.

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I encourage you to customize the message, including adding your own talking points. Some points you might wish to integrate (you don’t need to do all of them):

* All but two of the public massacres since 1950 had been committed by criminals and terrorists in “gun-free zones,” which is exactly what this regulation creates
* Off-duty police officers are also prevented from carrying
* Bans in rest stops send a very uninviting message to, and endanger the lives of, interstate travelers
* The cost of providing additional security to protect everyone who has been disarmed by this regulation will be prohibitive
* The ban won’t hold up in court, due to lack of authority by the Governor
* If parking lots are included in the ban, then citizens will be disarmed to and from their residences and everywhere in between

WE NEED TO CREATE A MASSIVE RESPONSE! Cross post this to your friends, family members, fellow employees, church groups, chat groups, etc., etc.

As of 9:33 PM on the first day of the comment period there are a total of only ELEVEN comments. You can check back on the Regulatory Town Hall using the comment link to watch as the comments pour in.

VCDL - LET’S ROLL AND ROLL HARD!



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[AlanM]

"the affect intended"
should be
"the effect intended"
or "the intended effect " if the sentence is reworded some.
see:http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/style ... ammar.html


Letter sent at 19:00, 12/15/15, currently 1485 comments

[OakRidgeStars]

They're their, now...

[wittmeba]

They're their, now...

They're over there by their car.

[AlanM]

Currently 1961 comments.
Looks to be all against.
In the first 200 comments there were 45 requests to extend the comment period.
I quit counting at that point.

[Jeff82]

Done.

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[WRW]

My 2 ¢ added

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[Wilderness1864]

I am from Pennsylvania. Since my ability to travel and visit Virgina and provide for my own self-defense has been significantly damaged by AG Herring's recent elimination of reciprocity with Pennsylvania and other states, I figured I needed to pay more attention to what is happening in other states. The other day someone in the PAFOA Forum posted a copy of your request for people to comment on the Town Hall. I read the Governor's EO, which he plans to make permanent. I have a number of questions as I am concerned about the impact of the order on me while I travel through or visit Virginia. Since, unlike you, I do not have to visit State offices on a frequent basis I would expect to suffer less directly and to be put less at risk as I do not have routine business in State buildings. Nevertheless, I have concerns from reading the text of the EO (and not from any personal experience). The EO may, however, be actually applied differently than as I read it. What has been the experience of Virginian's with the Temporary Order? Are my concerns expressed below valid?

More seems to be covered by the EO than just State Offices as one might normally consider them. The Preamble, which is not the law, appears deceptive in its purported purpose and limitations. The Preamble language appears to have the EO apply to buildings and offices (think of a DMV office) but the language of the actual regulation is very broad in that it covers undefined workplace facilities. At some point any property owned or controlled by the State and any of its agencies or authorities or public corporations controlled by any of them involves employment or the presence of State employees or activities supported by the State and its employees. As such, this EO could be applied to any property where the State has an interest. There is, for example, an exception in the EO for citizens actually engaged in lawful hunting on public land. The fact that there is an apparent need for such an exception implies that this regulation reaches far beyond physical "buildings and offices", but to any land or premises under the control of the State. If the regulation was limited to buildings, then such an exception for actual hunting on public land would be unnecessary. As a result, it would seem to me that State parks, monuments, historical displays or museums on State property, restrooms, rest areas, parking lots, visitor centers along state and local highways and interstate highways could be included. Visitor centers and rest areas are a particular concern since they are often staffed by State employees on a full or part time basis. So, even if I were to get my Virginia non-resident CC license (since McCauliffe's team just made my own resident PA reciprocal license invalid), I could violate the EO if I carry concealed to the bathroom or pick up a brochure in a visitor center or stop to visit some historical monument or just pull off to park and rest. As I read it, this regulation is vague, very broad and ripe for abuse, especially for unwary out-of-State visitors.

[Jeff82]

We'll see what the General Assembly does about this. They are about to be in session.

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