She loves her wheelguns. And she still has a thing about 357 hollowpoints and milkjugs.
Along with the size similarities mentioned there's also the "big truck, little d*ck" symdrome common in America. The .380 is often derided as being under powered. One will often hear stuff about "FBI criteria" etc but as yet I have not found anyone willing to stand up & take two in the chest to prove it's "underpowered". It's often put in the "I'd use it as my last line of defense.....if I had absolutely nothing else". I like to call these "tac-tards", those who feel the need to carry 9,000 round with them everywhere so they're prepared - utterly cluless about any real world situtation. This means a larger .380 likely wouldn't sell - it would always be "well if you're going that size why not get a real caliber?" (like a G42 vs G43)AppleaDay wrote:If so many women and older folks are supposedly getting into shooting why don't we see middle/full-sized handguns in .32 and .380?
The 42 is fast becoming my favorite. Can do most anything - it's so light which makes it easy to carry & it's fun to shoot. Now I can't say what would happen should I actually find a 43 but at the moment........ShotgunBlast wrote:........... She really likes the Glock in 380..........
When I first decided to carry in VA, I did a lot of "defensive arms" research about crimes involving firearms for self-defense. I found that the majority of self-defense situations occurred at night, in either a mall or gas station/convenient store parking lot, ambush, multiple attackers, and 3 shots fired on average.Bailey960 wrote:... I like to call these "tac-tards", those who feel the need to carry 9,000 round with them everywhere so they're prepared - utterly cluless about any real world situtation....
With current technology this is fast becoming the point. The biggest point for .380's was size. I mean I can carry my P380 w/ two magguts mags in any pocket no problem - it's tiny. That's 14 w/ in in the pipe = 15 total. With ammo such as Horandy XTP that's a pretty serious load for something that fits in a pocket w/ a total weight well under 2lbs.MarcSpaz wrote:.........9mm and .380 are identical in diameter... but a 9mm has double the energy. Granted, I don't want to get shot by either, but if I am on the giving end and I am carrying the exact same size weapon and bullet, why not carry a weapon with more stopping power?..........
I'm certainly no anti 2nd & no where near a libtard.........my point was there's a whole bunch of folks who go way overboard. As you mention there's always the outlier but as we all know out of the several hundred K defensive uses each year some 90 what percent don't even involve a discharge = 8 or so rounds will be more than enough. I'm not pro mag limits, that whole idea is stupid.MarcSpaz wrote:.........When I first decided to carry in VA, I did a lot of "defensive arms" research about crimes involving firearms for self-defense. I found that the majority of self-defense situations occurred at night, in either a mall or gas station/convenient store parking lot, ambush, multiple attackers, and 3 shots fired on average.
If you go by that... anyone who carries more than 3 to 5 rounds is carrying to much... but if you say that, then you sound like an anti-2A Libtard........
Sorry... I didn't mean to imply you were. I'm referring to the idiots in places like CT, NJ, etc. That is the whole take of their lawmakers.Bailey960 wrote:I'm certainly no anti 2nd & no where near a libtard.........my point was there's a whole bunch of folks who go way overboard.
Yes. The only reason I didn't comment earlier is that the "9" does have better expansion and better penetration with a subsequent greater wound area.Jeff82 wrote:Realize there is no such thing as "stopping power." Double the energy doesn't mean anything at handgun velocities. As long as a bullet travels 12 to 18 inches and gets reliable expansion you're good to go, one is as effective as another.
Don't forget when working with averages there's just as many below the average as there are above the average. More is always better. After some of the last mass attacks I've committed to caring an extra mag which makes two extra mags now. With what's in the gun I've got 50 rounds. I don't think that's too many if you're looking at a mass attack. They're going to scatter hopefully after the first round anyway.
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Not to be arguementive (sp?) but can I see your data on that?MarcSpaz wrote:And yes, a 9mm makes a more critical injury, reducing the drop time, increasing your chance of survival.
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