Or themselves. And, yeah, SHMIV hit it on the head. Someone needs to start a movement to ban mosques.wittmeba wrote:This is crazy! Our Government provides our military personnel with weapons to go to other countries to fight and protect those citizens. Our military does NOT allow the same persons to have guns to protect our own citizens.Snakester wrote:I'm sick of this story already. Shouldn't our Marines , that are part of our armed forces be "ARMED". Is our Gov't that stupid that in this day and age , that these men and women should have to be in such a dangerous situation ! Our Military uniforms today may as well have a Target on the back !Should our Military have to call 911 for the Police to defend them ?
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Progressives/Liberals - Promoting tyranny and a defenseless people since 1913.
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A federal government run by patriotic Americans would long ago have taken proper measures to provide for self-defense by our military servicemen and to prevent Islamic terrorism within our country.
The only logical conclusion is that the Leftists who run the government today are anti-American and want to see these incidents happen.
The only logical conclusion is that the Leftists who run the government today are anti-American and want to see these incidents happen.
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I just heard of another shooting in Maine....Any guesses what the shooter looks like !!!
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Washington Post admits Gun Free zone in Military recruitment centers is causing the problems, and always has:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... s/?hpid=z2
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I'm at the point where I might start wearing a plat carrier and a couple ceramic plates from the time I arrive at my office to the time I leave. This is absurd.
The Posse Comitatus Act has been repealed since 2011. You can't say they can't have weapons because of that. Just let them arm themselves. And while they are at it, they should let civilians carry on base too. Just because your a civilian, that doesn't make you any less of a target.
The Posse Comitatus Act has been repealed since 2011. You can't say they can't have weapons because of that. Just let them arm themselves. And while they are at it, they should let civilians carry on base too. Just because your a civilian, that doesn't make you any less of a target.
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I don't think it was repealed. It is the Pentagon interpretation only.
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Nope. Wish that was the case. On December 31, 2011, Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act which nullified the PCA.
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Want to bet which one gets more press?
Why aren't the daily murders in Chicago in the press?
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Because News Programs are only 30 minutes. Reporting all of Chicago's murders would eat up most of that time ! 

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When is Obama going to say something meaningful in relation to the horrible murder of four U.S. Marines?
Oh I get it. They aren't Michael Browns. None of the four marines look like they could have been one his sons.

Oh I get it. They aren't Michael Browns. None of the four marines look like they could have been one his sons.

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Medal of Honor winner Dakota Meyer hits it out of the park...
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33546147
Dakota Meyer's Facebook post, which went online hours after the four US Marines were shot and killed, called for Americans to exercise their Constitutional right to bear arms.
"Now is not the time to come out waving photos of bullet holes in the glass calling for more gun control and spinning the story to yield a further separation of peoples in the United States. Now is the time for a call on the American people to finally realise the state of the world we are living in and the enemy that we face," he wrote.
The FBI has not made any conclusions about the motive of the alleged gunman, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez. They do say there is nothing to link him to IS.
Four marines were killed in Thursday's attack. But Meyer, a former Marine who won a medal for his bravery in Afghanistan, equated the attack with the threat posed by the Islamist group.
"I, for one, do not plan to give away my ability to defend myself and those I care about. I carry a firearm with me at all times legally under the conceal and carry laws in the area that I am in," he said. With more than half a million people sharing post and nearly as many people liking it, Meyer's words have struck a chord with a large number of Americans. He already has a large social media following in the US, with more than 60,000 followers on Twitter.
For decades gun control campaigners have called for restrictions on ownership in the US. "Dakota Meyer, you are correct and it is our right to be able to defend ourselves!," wrote Melinda Palmer Matney, whose sentiments were echoed in a large majority of the more than 67,000 comments. Rosa Narvaez Every agreed: "Never ever stop looking over your shoulder cause those terrorist might be walking right behind you. No, they are indeed here already, and they have more than one gun."
Many in the US argue increased gun ownership is the way to deal with terror threats. As more people visited the page, many gun control advocates began to share their concerns...
"Another gun nut. A tragedy perpetrated by a domestic terrorist occurs, and all he's worried about it protecting his firearms. I am so tired of hearing about 2nd Amendment right," wrote Thomas Gesswein.
"I have never understood the whole debate about the gun laws and making it harder for someone to get one," was Candice Gorrell's view. "Do people not see that the only ones this will affect are LAW ABIDING CITIZENS? While we are sitting ducks due to our right to protect ourselves being taken away, CRIMINALS and TERRORISTS will continue to have guns, purchase guns, and use guns."
The gun control debate in the US is ubiquitous, but tragedies like Chattanooga push it back into centre stage. Meyer's comments, which came a month after the Charleston shootings, and the same day James Holmes was convicted of the Aurora cinema attack, show just how polarised the conversation is, and how the fear of IS on US soil has brought a new dimension to the discussion.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33546147
Dakota Meyer's Facebook post, which went online hours after the four US Marines were shot and killed, called for Americans to exercise their Constitutional right to bear arms.
"Now is not the time to come out waving photos of bullet holes in the glass calling for more gun control and spinning the story to yield a further separation of peoples in the United States. Now is the time for a call on the American people to finally realise the state of the world we are living in and the enemy that we face," he wrote.
The FBI has not made any conclusions about the motive of the alleged gunman, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez. They do say there is nothing to link him to IS.
Four marines were killed in Thursday's attack. But Meyer, a former Marine who won a medal for his bravery in Afghanistan, equated the attack with the threat posed by the Islamist group.
"I, for one, do not plan to give away my ability to defend myself and those I care about. I carry a firearm with me at all times legally under the conceal and carry laws in the area that I am in," he said. With more than half a million people sharing post and nearly as many people liking it, Meyer's words have struck a chord with a large number of Americans. He already has a large social media following in the US, with more than 60,000 followers on Twitter.
For decades gun control campaigners have called for restrictions on ownership in the US. "Dakota Meyer, you are correct and it is our right to be able to defend ourselves!," wrote Melinda Palmer Matney, whose sentiments were echoed in a large majority of the more than 67,000 comments. Rosa Narvaez Every agreed: "Never ever stop looking over your shoulder cause those terrorist might be walking right behind you. No, they are indeed here already, and they have more than one gun."
Many in the US argue increased gun ownership is the way to deal with terror threats. As more people visited the page, many gun control advocates began to share their concerns...
"Another gun nut. A tragedy perpetrated by a domestic terrorist occurs, and all he's worried about it protecting his firearms. I am so tired of hearing about 2nd Amendment right," wrote Thomas Gesswein.
"I have never understood the whole debate about the gun laws and making it harder for someone to get one," was Candice Gorrell's view. "Do people not see that the only ones this will affect are LAW ABIDING CITIZENS? While we are sitting ducks due to our right to protect ourselves being taken away, CRIMINALS and TERRORISTS will continue to have guns, purchase guns, and use guns."
The gun control debate in the US is ubiquitous, but tragedies like Chattanooga push it back into centre stage. Meyer's comments, which came a month after the Charleston shootings, and the same day James Holmes was convicted of the Aurora cinema attack, show just how polarised the conversation is, and how the fear of IS on US soil has brought a new dimension to the discussion.
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For decades I have said that the only thing stopping our enemies from a State side, land based ground troop attack is the hundreds of millions of personally owned firearms in America. Its time that we be allowed to defend OUR country, OUR lives and OUR families.
There are not enough police and military in the country to provide security for everyone. So let everyone be their own security. This is true, be it group or individual foreign or domestic terrorist. Its true be it a legal or illegal domestic criminal willing to take my life for my sneakers or the $7 in my wallet.
Every man must be endowed with the ability and freedom to preserve his own life. If not, you become a slave to the person or people who took that power away from you. As now, whether you live or die is in their hands. I for one will not sacrifice my life, my freedom, my family.
I don't care how much or how little experience I have. It doesn't matter if I am or have been in the military or not. It doesn't matter if I am or have been a LEO or not. I guaranty you if an ISIS lone-wolf or anyone else decides to start shooting a handgun, AK or AR my way, they are going to have a significant change of heart when my Green Tips start shredding their car to pieces and poking a few hole in them along the way.
There are not enough police and military in the country to provide security for everyone. So let everyone be their own security. This is true, be it group or individual foreign or domestic terrorist. Its true be it a legal or illegal domestic criminal willing to take my life for my sneakers or the $7 in my wallet.
Every man must be endowed with the ability and freedom to preserve his own life. If not, you become a slave to the person or people who took that power away from you. As now, whether you live or die is in their hands. I for one will not sacrifice my life, my freedom, my family.
I don't care how much or how little experience I have. It doesn't matter if I am or have been in the military or not. It doesn't matter if I am or have been a LEO or not. I guaranty you if an ISIS lone-wolf or anyone else decides to start shooting a handgun, AK or AR my way, they are going to have a significant change of heart when my Green Tips start shredding their car to pieces and poking a few hole in them along the way.
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I agree Marc, I think it's time to reactivate "The Minutemen". 

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This is CNN's header:
"Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez was carrying 30-round magazines when he opened fire, according to a source briefed by law enforcement. Abdulazeez kept police at bay for some time with the amount of ammunition he had, according to the source.
The shooting suspect was armed with an AK-47 style weapon at the time of the attack according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation."
GUN GUN MAGAZINE HIGH POWER RIFLE GUN. Those are the things to blame, not the lunatic, right?
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"Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez was carrying 30-round magazines when he opened fire, according to a source briefed by law enforcement. Abdulazeez kept police at bay for some time with the amount of ammunition he had, according to the source.
The shooting suspect was armed with an AK-47 style weapon at the time of the attack according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation."
GUN GUN MAGAZINE HIGH POWER RIFLE GUN. Those are the things to blame, not the lunatic, right?
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Its funny you mention that. I wish we had a Conservative Governor. I would love to petition the State to allow us to form an official unorganized militia unit and establish a MOU to serve the State, supplementing the National Guard or standing in for the NG between when the local PD isn't enough, but the NG might be overkill. Overtly, reestablishing the (Virginia) Culpeper Minute Men.Snakester wrote:I agree Marc, I think it's time to reactivate "The Minutemen".
But not just for military, but for S&R, disaster aid, etc.
Yep... you got it.Mindflayer wrote:This is CNN's header:
"Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez was carrying 30-round magazines when he opened fire, according to a source briefed by law enforcement. Abdulazeez kept police at bay for some time with the amount of ammunition he had, according to the source.
The shooting suspect was armed with an AK-47 style weapon at the time of the attack according to two law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation."
GUN GUN MAGAZINE HIGH POWER RIFLE GUN. Those are the things to blame, not the lunatic, right?
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Kinda like
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