"transgender" personnel in the armed forces

[mmckee1952]

Since the military has lifted the ban on so called "transgender" personnel in the armed forces, we can now ask questions like:
(1) Will they still have male/female fitness standards?
(2) Will they still have segregated latrines?
(3) Will they still have different uniforms for male and female service members?
(4) Will they billet service members who [erroneously] self-identity with a different "gender" into rooms with normal service members who are not confused about their biology?
(5) Will they billet service members who [erroneously] self-identify with other service members who are also self-confused about their biology?
(6) Will the American people finally decide that this war by our government against our armed forces has gone too far and will the American people--and the military members themselves--decide that all of this deviant crap the federal government has pushed on the Pentagon cannot be allowed to continue and finally tell the president and the Pentagon, "Hell no we will not allow this! You can take your Communist ass to hell with you! We are going back to the real deal military like Gen. Patton and Gen. of the Army MacArthur led when we won World War II and you and your same sex partners with you and you had better shut up and leave!"?

Note: Hey, America! What the hell is it going to take for you to get out of your bubble and wake the hell up? If you won't stop this crap, then you don't deserve a military to protect your ass anymore!

So let me try and understand this, on one hand Obama wants to cut the Army by 40,000 troops and then on the other hand wants to allow transgender people into the military. How dammed stupid is he? This is beyond asinine to even think of doing something like this to our military and what in the hell is it going to be like on a Naval ship where these people have to live with all the other sailors, I’ve been there and it’s like having 24 people living in a 8x10 sized room, it’s just not feasible.

[FiremanBob]

Notice that all the recent perversion of our institutions and societal standards is driven by the federal government. The American people know better, but this tyrannical government doesn't care. All of these outrages are part of a grand plan by the "vast, extreme Cultural Marxist conspiracy" to destroy America before the 2016 elections.

Does nobody in the GOP establishment have the courage to speak out against these abominations?

[Swampman]

I'm afraid not. On the other hand, some one should pose that question to the Donald.

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[WRW]

How long till the public at large is picking up the tab for "reassignment"?

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[OakRidgeStars]

Does nobody in the GOP establishment have the courage to speak out against these abominations?

Why would they speak out against it? Progressives are not exclusive to the Democrat party. Political parties have never been in the best interest of this country and never will be.

[skeeterss0]

How long till the public at large is picking up the tab for "reassignment"?

We already do for prisoners, why not the military???????

[WRW]

How long till the public at large is picking up the tab for "reassignment"?

We already do for prisoners, why not the military???????

Greer.

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[WRW]

Grrr. That was supposed to be Grrr.

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[WRW]

Grrr. That was supposed to be Grrr.

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FWIW, I never liked automatic transmissions.

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[OakRidgeStars]

Obligatory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y

[allingeneral]

Retired Navy Seal "Kristin" Beck who used to be a guy but wants to be a girl who still looks like a guy or the ugliest "woman" I've ever seen says:

Kristin Beck - facebook
I have been working on this since 2013....
THEY are following the PLAN that I laid out in 2014.
First two steps are done.
NOW the step is setting up a panel of SMEs and Pentagon Policy, Health Care, Personnel..... The work has JUST now begun in ernest and all of your concerns are OUR concerns.
Yesterday at 7:02pm · Like · 7

[WRW]

I'd no idea that when personal choices (birth control) became mandated coverage that it would go this far. I was against it then, and now...

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[dorminWS]

Just think............ if we get to the point that health care for the armed services funds "reassignment" treatments/surgery, guess who is likely to flock to the military for that benefit. Oh well, maybe I can get rich if that happens. I could come out with a line of camoflage nail polish and get a no-bid contract to supply the army............

[VACoastie]

When the determination of repeal of DADT came about, I was REALLY against it. We had to fill out this survey and whatnot of what you felt about it and what concern you had. One often at the time was "I want separate berthings, heads, etc.". Then I realized how ignorant of me that was. It's no different than during Jim Crow days of white and black only things. I quickly got over my homophobic ways and learned to integrate.

With this new transgender thing I see and feel the same as I do now with the gay members. A gay guy isn't going to be interested in me as much as a flat chested chick with an extra part identifying as a dude or vice versa for the females. A work force divided will not fight together when needed and this is exactly what we need I feel.

As far as uniforms go, everything will remain the same. Fitness standards will remain the same. The only thing I'm curious about is how would one be officially deemed "transgender" by military definition? Would they need to be post-op? Does the military provide for the hormone treatments?

The latter I do not agree with at all. The citizens should not be footing the bill for someone's personal life choices. Much in the same that I vehemently do not concur with the military's decision to foot the bill for females to get Breast Implants. Now, if their chests are causing them back/spinal issues then I do think they should be accommodated to get breast reductions. However, if your "feelings" are hurt because your chest is small, to hell with ya. Don't some guys feel bad for having the same issue as a guy? I don't see them offering us the same "enhancements."

I kinda sorta went off topic, but I think it still applies in context.

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[WRW]

Brother Duffer, in Millington, Tennessee, used to preach about the dangers of letting the Devil get his foot in the door. Well, Progressives have a foot in the door and a hydraulic ram in the jamb.

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[lizjimbo]

Look at the choices the trannys will have. If they don't want to stick one in their mouth or other places they can at least get theirs cut off! My God...what has happened to my country?

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