It won't end with the confederate flag...

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It won't end with the confederate flag...

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Wake up guys, this tidal wave of "ban the confederate flag" business should scare the crap out of everyone regardless of your take on the issue. It's obvious to me that these days the U.S. Constitution is basically just lip-service, the real power today is with popular culture. And we all know that popular culture here has been fundamentally transformed in the past few decades by a combination of a liberal-controlled public education system and unchecked immigration.

Now this is the scary part - today's confederate flag could be tommorow's firearms. Learn this lesson well and observe how fast something that was considered politically untouchable can so quickly become a pariah. Google the word "confederate", then hit the "news" tab and see how the politicians ON BOTH SIDES are just scrambling all over themselves to join the bandwagon and say "me too". This is because the survey monkeys and statisticians have said it's a win politically. The people who care about the rebel flag have become the minority...so they feel it's now safe to attack it.

Our only defense is in numbers and at the ballot box. Find a friend (or better yet friends) who's never shot a gun. Take them shooting, get people excited and enthusiastic about firearms and the shooting sports! The more people who take a positive view on firearms, the better chance we have to preserve our rights in the future.

If all 5 million NRA members just got one new person to join the ranks of other gun-enthusiasts, the political ramifications would be enormous and help keep the 2nd Amendment on the books for the next generation...
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I think removing some flags that are neither the country's flag nor the state flag from some government buildings is different than wiping away a constitutionally protected right. I think all of the retailers pulling merchandise from there shelves is an overreaction, but it's their right to do it.

The real threat to the 2A is yesterday's Obamacare ruling (I mean SCOTUScare) that now sets the precedence that words as they are written have no meaning and can be essentially rewritten by the judiciary.

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Living in the last days of this country.... Just sayin'.
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A constitutional right can be REinterpreted by a liberal leaning SCOTUS. Don't kid yourself. Or there are other ways - like banning ammo or "assault weapons". It's been done before.

Obama has already injected the gun rights argument into this tragedy and said "it's not over". Now the "40 round banana clips" found in this slimeball's car is all over the news today.

Don't feel secure with that guy in the White House and won't rest regardless...

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They have done this before, the 1960's had a similar period of radicalized liberal hate. The moderates of the country responded by only voting one Democrat into the White House from 1968-1992. I believe we are in for a similar outcome. People with intelligence can see that the radical left media is driving the hate machine right now simply to try and get enthused African Americans to vote for Hillary. There is simply no enthusiasm in their community for her, and they know that they will lose with low turnout. The media completely ignored the conciliatory tone, the white and black people praying together, hugging and acting like rational human beings. The Nation of Islam and BPP were upset that they could not get riots started in Charleston, it is not a northern city and less prone to such things so the media changed the focus.
The catch is moderates usually react by voting Republican as they did in the midterms when the left pulls such stunts.
The McCarthyism the left is displaying now finding a racist behind every bush is going to bite them in the ass, mark my words. People are tired of the race baiting, the Fergusons, Baltimores and garbage being spewed by the left daily.
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All that is accomplished by demanding the flag be removed is any future discussion, mention or display of the flag will guarantee it will be racist. All other racial issues will continue. There is no turning back now.
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And with the gay marriage ruling today,the supremes have showed us just how liberal they are
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Let's see? SCOTUS says "The Constitution doesn't count" in the case of Obamacare, takes away state's rights AGAIN with affirming gay marriage, people protest to remove a historical flag, and Obama promises more gun control....

How do we see us winning again?

Sorry. Done. This country is cooked, pull out the Perdue timer, and start carving it up...

the only highlight today? A trainer came by, and asked "Would you be interested in taking a class in handling difficult people?" My reply, "Punch'em in the throat, that usually settles them down." She was stunned... Finally someone said "HE'S PLAYING WITH YOU!" She laughed, but nervously....

Because I didn't crack a smile. Yeeeaaahhh, I get in trouble alot. (shrugs) Guess I ain't "butt-hurt" enough.
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dusterdude wrote:And with the gay marriage ruling today,the supremes have showed us just how liberal they are
No they were showing they won't be bullied by the religious, who have no place in politics! They for once did something good in shutting up the bigoted morons.
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thekinetic wrote:
dusterdude wrote:And with the gay marriage ruling today,the supremes have showed us just how liberal they are
No they were showing they won't be bullied by the religious, who have no place in politics! They for once did something good in shutting up the bigoted morons.
Bigots, & morons..? Nothing personal man but, this is the same mentality we all fight with the anti-gunners. Because someone has a different ideology doesn't make them a bigot, & certainly not a moron.
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I have to agree...this nation is being ripped from the ground up into something unrecognizable.

As with my initial point - if not for our numbers, the 2nd Amendment would be already toast - just like other American traditions like private healthcare and marriage.

Imagine if the gun rights lobby didn't have the power it had. This is all due to our numbers. That's why getting people you know that aren't gun owners interested and on our side so critical!!!
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We have friends to our Range a couple weekends each month. We encourage them to bring their friends , especially non shooters or the ones that don't shoot very often. I really like seeing New Shooters take an interest and ask lots of questions.

I have several friends that shoot a lot with me that I met at gun shops or other stores.I have gone with several when they make their "First Firearm Purchase".

There's lots of want to be shooters , but they just don't have anywhere to shoot. Most are more comfortable shooting outdoors then at an Indoor "Controlled" Range. :pistol:
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Snakester wrote:We have friends to our Range a couple weekends each month. We encourage them to bring their friends , especially non shooters or the ones that don't shoot very often. I really like seeing New Shooters take an interest and ask lots of questions.

I have several friends that shoot a lot with me that I met at gun shops or other stores.I have gone with several when they make their "First Firearm Purchase".

There's lots of want to be shooters , but they just don't have anywhere to shoot. Most are more comfortable shooting outdoors then at an Indoor "Controlled" Range. :pistol:
Pretty awesome. I've had similar experience with non shooters. I recently completed a range on my property. have a few things I still want to add but, it's been operational for about a month now. Had a BBQ with lots of out of town family a couple weekends ago. Had multiple non shooting family members put some rounds down range. Specifically, my brother, & his son. He's always claimed he "wasn't anti-gun" but, just wasn't for him. Well.... they both put rounds down range with rifles, & pistols. Would've been impossible for either to deny how much they dug it. One of my boys spent time meticulously showing his cousin how to clean the .22 after. Since that day, my nephew has a .22 & currently looking for a scope, & my brother is now trying to decide on what handgun to buy for himself...!! :clap: It couldn't have gone better

A couple of the women really enjoyed it too. Was lots of fun. Having a larger get together/BBQ on Labor Day weekend. Hopefully can sway another. I'm going to try to get my very liberal sister to put some rounds down range.
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Good deal
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On today's SCOTUS ruling; I've been busy driving trucks and stuff, and haven't really been following this. What law pertaining to "gay marriage " did the SCOTUS rule on?

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They ruled that all 50 states must allow gays to be legally married...again, just as in attacking the confederate flag by politicans in the South, it's been made possible due to a fundamental shift in popular culture.

Let's hope one day a shift won't occur on gun rights. My only real point in this thread is that we have to make sure "popular culture" doesn't turn "anti-gun", and the only way to prevent that is for a majority of people to have a positive view on firearms and gun ownership. And the best way to do that is for us to introduce guns to those that are unfamiliar with them to grow our ranks (or at the very least reduce the ignorant).
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On Thursday SCOTUS destroyed statute law. Today SCOTUS destroyed common law. Now any law can be made to mean whatever the ruling party wants it to be. We are no longer a nation of laws. The fat lady is singing.

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Want to know how insane this is getting? The mayor of Memphis wants to dig Nathan Bedford Forrest up and move him and his wife because he says they offend him.
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Any time someone is 'forced' to accept something it will cause additional hatred.

I truly believe we were much better off and headed in the right direction regarding racism before BO took office.
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Next: try to ban guns. Then, try to ban knives...
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