Ebola

[BertMacklin]

When the features of an event are changed one naturally should not expect the same outcome. Yet with the largest outbreak in history, as far as I understand, currently underway I see people treating this as if nothing has changed and thus the outcome should be about normal. This infection should act in the same manner:

The vectors are the same as well as transmission. The virus is weak outside the body and without direct contact to fluids it is difficult to spread.

The obstacles are the same. Poor hospitals, if they are even in place, mistrust by locals and customs that help spread disease.

The reaction is the same. Track, contain, treat, bleach, WHO and local experts.

Yet somehow this has turned into the largest incident of the sort. So what has changed that has caused an outcome of greater effect despite the same conditions? Luck, or lack thereof, will always be a possibility. The other option is that the disease has changed. It is a known strain, there are several but the small number of cases makes it such that there are fewer types of strains.

The common cold, for instance, being prevalent everywhere is genetically diverse. It has a variety of conditions to overcome, and some errors in genetics occur with quantity and time. But Ebola typically kills before maximum infection of the population can occur, less pathogens so less mutations. Doctors know what their dealing with and how to approach it. Some of the strains take only a few days, the current one up to three weeks, before symptoms kick in. Even so with a longer incubation period few outbreaks get past the small villages of origin. I hope its not airborne, and its likely not, but something is different because the outcome so far has been drastically different.

It's moved to cities. Doctors around this can and do get ill, this is to be expected they know this and we should appreciate their sacrifices. But now several doctors are sick. The local expert (who knew both the disease and cultural obstacles) is dead, despite protective gear, despite being the expert, he is dead. The cookie monster just choked to death on an Oreo. Now they are running out of doctors. They are running out of doctors while still trying to play catch up. It has also ridden on a plane. People exposed outside of the know area of infection remain missing in hiding.

So why is it on such a dark and cold eve that people persist in saying that because in the past infections were easy to control, have never gotten here, would have never spread if it did. The conditions have changed so I must assume that the outcome will be different. The Devil is no longer at the door, he skipped knocking and is now in the kitchen.

How, if at all, one should prepare is uncertain. I can only say that the people telling you everything will be alright may be selling snake oil, for if that was the case this virus wouldn't have left the jungle. We are due for a flood a century. On the river we build homes on the banks made by century floods often knowing that one day the water will come to collect that which it left behind a century ago. While there have been some outbreaks of various scary things in the past century it has almost been a century since the Spanish Flu came and killed multiples of what warfare could produce. We are due a flood.

[Swampman]

I hope you are wrong, but I have noticed the same thing. This time it is different, but they're acting as if it is just another day at the ebola clinic. Something is fishy, and it isn't company that has overstayed.

[Reverenddel]

Keep in mind that it kills 90% of those infected, and the rate of infection magnifies exponentially with every contact...

I see another bottleneck in the genetic codes for humans soon.

[OakRidgeStars]

Just think about all the exotic diseases coming to a school near you, now that the Feds are delivering illegals of unknown origin all over the country. Better double check that your kids are up to date on their vaccinations before school starts.

[kelu]

How, if at all, one should prepare is uncertain

If it comes to the cities, stock up for couple months, while you bug in. Gonna be nasty outside.

“…Witnesses say Sawyer, a 40-year-old Liberian Finance Ministry employee en route to a conference in Nigeria, was vomiting and had diarrhea aboard at least one of his flights with some 50 other passengers aboard. Ebola can be contracted from traces of feces or vomit, experts say”. I would submit that it is time to get worried. And given the fact that we now know that Ebola detection kits have been deployed in National Guard unit kits in all 50 states, it would appear that someone knew about this possibility for sometime.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/ ... has-begun/

[BertMacklin]

Keep in mind that it kills 90% of those infected, and the rate of infection magnifies exponentially with every contact...

I see another bottleneck in the genetic codes for humans soon.

This one runs at about 60%. New cases jump around a few weeks then drop then jump higher. It appears to be in waves probably due to the incubation period. June was low in new cases but July has been the beginning of another uptick, I don't think the next wave of the new infected have fully begin to show new symptoms.

[mamabearCali]

I don't know. I know this one is a killer. Terribly scary stuff.

I can keep most small bugs at bay with good nutrition and good hydration but this.......somehow I don't think rosemary, thyme chicken soup is going to help.

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[OakRidgeStars]

Ebola: It's only one plane ride away.

[Reverenddel]

Glad Bert is comfortable at 60%... if that were rain? I wouldn't plan a picnic...

To be honest, whatever is going to happen, be it politics, disease, war, economic collapse. Just do your best, because others won't.

[0ne5hot]

How, if at all, one should prepare is uncertain

If it comes to the cities, stock up for couple months, while you bug in. Gonna be nasty outside.

“…Witnesses say Sawyer, a 40-year-old Liberian Finance Ministry employee en route to a conference in Nigeria, was vomiting and had diarrhea aboard at least one of his flights with some 50 other passengers aboard. Ebola can be contracted from traces of feces or vomit, experts say”. I would submit that it is time to get worried. And given the fact that we now know that Ebola detection kits have been deployed in National Guard unit kits in all 50 states, it would appear that someone knew about this possibility for sometime.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/ ... has-begun/

[kelu]

This guy has an interesting analysis: http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/07/3 ... -due-2019/

[mamabearCali]

Not that I think it is likely that it will help, but more because it certainly won't hurt. I am getting a few extra anti-viral essential oils to keep around.

Some of the essential oils are known to be very effective anti viral treatments. I have used them to pretty good effect for minor illnesses. I don't know that it would help at all, but it couldn't hurt.

I am getting extra oregano oil, clove oil, cinnamon oil and tea tree oil. I already have a good amount of lemon oil around or I would get that too. Anyway I am happier trying to do something to protect me and mine than sitting around wringing my hands.



Thought I would pass that along.

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[Wolvee]

I'd be more worried about how many people die from the flu every year than ebola.


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[mamabearCali]

Flu is relatively mild with a very low mortality rate. I have had the flu several times. I am still here. My kids have had the flu once or twice, they are all still here.

Ebola is a nightmare with a mortality rate of up to 90%. That is worse than the Black Death of the Middle Ages. And as it seems to not be burning itself out this time I think it is of a high level of concern.

Essential oils can help with the flu as well. That is what I have used it on in the past.

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[BertMacklin]

I'd be more worried about how many people die from the flu every year than ebola.


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Yes the Flu remains the bigger killer currently but it does not have the ability to hit society the way Ebola could potentially if it evolves like all other bugs do. When Ebola trades some of its extreme strength for the ability to spread beyond what traditional measures prepare for, then we will wish we all got the flu. Part of what has made the current outbreak so strong is underestimating the virus, assuming that this is just like those old outbreaks in the smaller villages. Modern medicine has a few tricks for the flu still, though we will always be playing catch up, but even God can't help you if you catch this. One is either lucky, or with the dead majority.

You can't look at this for what it is, that is the fool's job. You must see things for what they could become.

[allingeneral]

I heard the term "Barack Ebola" today. Seems fitting.

[BertMacklin]

Not that I think it is likely that it will help, but more because it certainly won't hurt. I am getting a few extra anti-viral essential oils to keep around.

Some of the essential oils are known to be very effective anti viral treatments. I have used them to pretty good effect for minor illnesses. I don't know that it would help at all, but it couldn't hurt.

I am getting extra oregano oil, clove oil, cinnamon oil and tea tree oil. I already have a good amount of lemon oil around or I would get that too. Anyway I am happier trying to do something to protect me and mine than sitting around wringing my hands.



Thought I would pass that along.

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O2 and water are the only treatments, better off focusing on preventing infection. Bleach and sunlight can kill the virus on surfaces, clothes or etc. Also realize that infected people will flee along with everyone else. Assume anyone you haven't already vetted is a carrier whether showing symptoms or not.

[mamabearCali]

That we know of.

If it comes our way all the hospital bed will be full. There will not be enough O2 and water to go around. Those of us who are not super rich will be on our own.

Sure enough prevention is the best cure. On that note I am not planning to flee. No sense in that unless one has a cabin in the woods well stocked and I don't have that. If it comes to it we will bug in. No garauntee of course.

Clorox is great....for clothes and surfaces. Not so great for hands.

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[OakRidgeStars]

Time to stock up on N95 masks

[0ne5hot]

Time to stock up on N95 masks

That will not do anything for Ebola...it is passed thuough bodily fluids...No Glove, No Love