More IDIOT'S at the wheel!

[Newgunguy]

So sad, yet they are being completely two-faced about it like always!

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/225251 ... ar-uniform

PETERBOROUGH, N.H. (MyFoxBoston.com) -- The family of a future Marine from New Hampshire is upset that his high school will not allow him to wear his uniform to graduation.

Brandon Garabrant will earn the title of Unites States Marine Friday after boot camp graduation. He will receive his diploma at ConVal Regional High School the following day. He's able to do this because he had enough credits to graduate early.

http://www.wmur.com/news/marine-from-nh ... 234#!1VpMx

Lance Cpl. Brandon Garabrant, a 2013 graduate of ConVal High School, was killed in the southern part of the country by a roadside bomb, according to The Associated Press. Two other American troops and a military dog were also killed. They were assigned to a NATO security force.

Before becoming a Marine, Garabrant was a volunteer member of the Temple Fire Department, a police Explorer with the Peterborough Police Department and worked at Touchstone Farm in Temple.

This is the reason why I wish people would wake up in this country and would stop volunteering to be pawns for these IDIOT'S in washington!

Charles.

[Swampman]

Surely I misunderstand? You don't mean to say that people shouldn't enlist in the armed services to protect the freedoms and liberties we hold dear?

[Palladin]

I don't understand either, Jim. I read both of the offered articles, and cogitated a bit...

I'm sure the young man was proud of becoming a Marine, and rightly so. But the Marines aren't about showboating, so the gown over the uniform for a couple of hours is small taters in the big scheme.

The Abraham-Isaac-Ishmael thing has been cooking for thousands of years, and it's just starting to bubble good with the vacuums we've left over there. Garabrant wasn't the first and he certainly won't be the last to die over there.

Seems to me the best we can do is honor the fallen, pray for their families, and remember he served with distinction. Semper Fi Lance, Rest in Peace.

Check your moral compass and remember to vote in November. It's gon' be bumpy...

[MarcSpaz]

I haven't seen a positive post out of you yet. In fact, I haven't seen a post from you that is not anti-government and/or trashing our police, military or government in general.

Don't get me wrong; I don't have a problem with identifying problems in our government, especially if there is something detrimental to the citizens, but is there anything positive in your life or views that you can or want to share that will help make people feel good, learn something or support the amazing and positive points of our life and country?

[PistolPilot]

There's no apostrophe in IDIOTS...

[MarcSpaz]

errr, if he is trying to show ownership of "at the wheel"??? I don't know. I reaching here. LOL

[Swampman]

PistolPilot is correct. No apostrophe. And the sentence isn't structured properly to show possession.

[Newgunguy]

No, what I'm saying about the military is that people need to wake up and realize that they are only being used as pawns for a corrupted govt and greedy CEO's. So again tell me what war or conflict was actually detrimental to this Nations security in the last 50 years. Plus I do think it is wrong about them not letting him wear his dress uniform, have you seen high schools lately they have recruiters that circle like damn vultures there! So that is my point with this, now this man is dead after only a few months from his graduation.


Charles.

[grumpyMSG]

No, what I'm saying about the military is that people need to wake up and realize that they are only being used as pawns for a corrupted govt and greedy CEO's. So again tell me what war or conflict was actually detrimental to this Nations security in the last 50 years. Plus I do think it is wrong about them not letting him wear his dress uniform, have you seen high schools lately they have recruiters that circle like damn vultures there! So that is my point with this, now this man is dead after only a few months from his graduation.


Charles.

With all due respect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

[j1mmyd]

So sad, yet they are being completely two-faced about it like always!

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This is the reason why I wish people would wake up in this country and would stop volunteering to be pawns for these IDIOT'S in washington! Charles.

Well, Chuck, I gather you didn't serve. I did what this young man did - enlisted while in high school and was an Army Reservist until I graduated, then went on active duty. My son is deployed right now and he knew *fully well* what it meant and is more than "awake". While we all enlist for different reasons, we all know that sacrifice is at the core of the life. The first thing sacrificed is control. From control of what we eat to our sock selection to where, how and for what we might die. Maybe the nobility of this escapes you. You are entitled to question the motives of our politicians and even the DIB, but you don't get to sh1t on the wisdom or motivation of the kids who go do the heavy lifting for us.

[Reverenddel]

Agreed with Jim.

[Swampman]

jimmyd - unfortunately he does get to poop on the wisdom and motivation of the kids who do the heavy lifting for us. Those kids are sacrificing life and limb to defend his right to be an azzhat. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is. Rest assured, he doesn't have the testicular fortitude to criticize them face to face.

It takes an awful lot for someone to get on my ignore list (currently populated by one jerk-wad who I haven't seen post in many months), but he sure is getting close to being number two.

[j1mmyd]

jimmyd - unfortunately he does get to poop on the wisdom and motivation of the kids who do the heavy lifting for us.

I apologize for my lack of precision.

@Newgunguy: You don't get to sh1t on these kids here, unmolested.

(P.S. Please don't run off all mad. I've found myself on the wrong side of an issue here, and I've even had a member unintentionally reshape a long-held belief. I suggest more thought before posting on a topic. We don't all agree on every subject, but most of us seem to agree on some.)

[MrJog]

Some of you guys sound like an old broken record. It is as if a lot of you cruise these boards looking for something to get mad at, or someone to be rude to. Do any of you disagree with him about the wars/conflicts from in the past 50 years? If so, maybe you could discuss that instead of acting childish and calling him names.

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[MarcSpaz]

First and foremost, I would recommend you revisit your narrative. There is a significant difference between childish banter about ideological differences of opinion and outright anger or being rude. I rarely see the latter on this forum.

To address your question directly, I can't speak for everyone, but I'll share my opinion since you asked.

We all know that the Catholic Church has a less than stellar reputation for some of its male clergy taking advantage of women and children of either sex. It sucks. We wish it wouldn't happen. However, it is rare and it is not a representation of every member of the cloth, nor is it the target goal of the Catholic Church to gain the trust of women and children for the sole purpose of sexual abuse.

Well, if you go Vatican City, I'm am sure if you express concern and seem to have a recommendation or have questions, some of the Bishops or Cardinals and maybe even the Pope might sit down with you. After all, the Church has acknowledge that this does happen on occasion. However, after a year and a half or two years of you standing there, offering no solutions and just chastising the Church, saying they are all vial rapers of children, eventually even the most Holy Men on earth will ask you to shut up and leave. Mostly because you have accomplished nothing but insults. If you don't leave, some less than holy men with automatic weapons will assist you with that problem.

Since NewGunGuy has been here, he has mostly bashed and complained about the government, police and military. Well guess what... there are quite a few government, police and military folks here that he is regularly insulting by attacking and insulting them and their brothers. I would assume that it offends many of the Patriots as well. However, if you are not a Gov/Mil/LEO/Patriot, I would assume after awhile even the average Joe wishes that individual would just STFU.

So you see, in reality, the 2 years of near constant babbling of a Nazi Police State and a tyrannical government out to kill and oppress the people is what sounds like "an old broken record". I for one am pretty tired of it. Then again... over the last few days, that has not exactly been a secret. LOL

[grumpyMSG]

Some of you guys sound like an old broken record. It is as if a lot of you cruise these boards looking for something to get mad at, or someone to be rude to. Do any of you disagree with him about the wars/conflicts from in the past 50 years? If so, maybe you could discuss that instead of acting childish and calling him names.

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Sir, I beg of you, please reread that last post of Newgunguy:

No, what I'm saying about the military is that people need to wake up and realize that they are only being used as pawns for a corrupted govt and greedy CEO's. So again tell me what war or conflict was actually detrimental to this Nations security in the last 50 years. Plus I do think it is wrong about them not letting him wear his dress uniform, have you seen high schools lately they have recruiters that circle like damn vultures there! So that is my point with this, now this man is dead after only a few months from his graduation.

Charles.

His actual statement was:

So again tell me what war or conflict was actually detrimental to this Nations security in the last 50 years.

I left the Billy Madison youtube in response, because his actual words were worded in a matter of supporting all the conflicts, worded as a question without the correct punctuation (He could have used the extra apostrophe from IDIOT'S in Nation's security and a question mark at the end) and in fact was the opposite of what he was trying to express. He accused servicemen of being asleep and the pawns of the government and corporate America. I wore the U.S. Army uniform (part time for most of it) for 28 years and was around for a conflict or two. I darn sure didn't agree with every conflict we were in, but then again who did? I will mention just a few places where we made a difference, Haiti on several occasions, how about the one success story from Jimmy Carter, 30+ years of peace between Egypt and Israel? How about former Yugoslavia, now multiple countries? Were those missions horrible failures or did they bring some (not perfect) peace to a few regions? What about the original Gulf War? Wasn't it in our national interest at the time? Now if you want to argue we didn't belong in Iraq in 2003, on a personal level, I would agree with you. I believe we should have been singularly focused on Afghanistan at the time. I believe had we only worried about decimating Al Qaeda there, doing it quickly and efficiently, with overwhelming firepower and let the Afghanis know we would be back should it pop up again. If they want to live in the dark ages that is their choice, after all we don't force Mennonites or Amish to have electricity. If Al Qaeda popped up somewhere else we need treat them like Whack-a-Mole.

When you deploy it is not always about you. The big thing about being a serviceman, regardless of branch, is a sense of loyalty to your comrades in arms. What you worry about is not yourself, it is about not letting the Soldier to the left or right of you down. Unlike most jobs, servicemen are under contract for a set length of time, they don't have the option of walking into the boss' office and saying I quit.