More injustice from cops

[ratherfish]

I'd wager all making negative comments here have had mostly posative encounters with LEO's. Remember if you act like a punk you may be treated like a punk. They just have more on the line.

So, as long as it doesn't happen to you personally, it's OK?

I don't act like a punk. I show respect and I am shown respect. If I wasn't I have a lawyer.
Try it your experiences may change.

Same goes for the Masshole that trashes LEO's as nazi's on a VA gun board. Act like a punk I'll call you a punk.

I have many friends that are LEO's and if you're not mature enough to understand that all cannot be characterized as nazi's, you're exibiting the exact behavior that characterizes you and your buddy as punks. Punks are a dime a dozen and go through life making their own woes blaming it on others.

Of course that punk behavior may just be blowing off steam on line against the "man". Ashamed of their fearfull interactions with authority in the past finding on line courage to "strike back".

Either way, his thread is useless.

[Newgunguy]

Right and with all the things I'm posting about, how is me acting like a punk have anything to do with that? Do your NAZI friends take offence to that and so they then take it out on others instead of someone who isn't afraid to stand up to them? So once again I'll ask you, if they are not all that bad then how come the good ones just sit by and let these things happen? These incidents sure as hell are not committed when only one SS trooper is around and actually most of them happen when it is a whole gang of them. So anyway you can keep calling me a masshole all you would like, because trust me this has been the worse decision I have ever made to move up here and I could care less about what happens to any of them here. Besides I was born in South Bend, Indiana and grew up most of my life in Clearwater, Florida!

Once again if you are incapable to comprehend, I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY RUN INS WITH THE NAZI'S! This thread isn't useless because it shines a light on your overseers and how they act and get away with atrocities! Besides the stuff that I post is only the stuff that is actually reported on, how many things do you think actually happen that we never hear about!

So have fun cleaning their boots collaborator or turncoat which ever fits you!

Charles.

[Kreutz]

I'd wager all making negative comments here have had mostly posative encounters with LEO's. Remember if you act like a punk you may be treated like a punk. They just have more on the line.

So, as long as it doesn't happen to you personally, it's OK?

I don't act like a punk. I show respect and I am shown respect. If I wasn't I have a lawyer

Like this snot nosed punk with his "broken spine" not showing the respect COMMANDED to our overlords?

http://www.wnd.com/2008/08/71096/

Parents of a 16-year-old boy in intensive care with a broken back want to know why police Tasered their son 19 times rather than calling an ambulance for help.

snip

When police arrived, they found Hutchinson under an overpass on U.S. 65 Saturday morning, Springfield’s KY3 News reported. The boy had fallen 30 feet off the overpass and was lying on the shoulder.

When the boy didn’t respond to police, they Tasered him, repeatedly.

snip (and the most jaw dropping statement of bullshyte ever incidentally)

However, Ozark police say the wounded boy was a threat.

“He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him,” Capt. Thomas Rousset said. “He is making incoherent statements; he’s also making statements such as, ‘Shoot cops, kill cops,’ things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers.”

Authorities say their use of a Taser weapon should not be questioned, because they were trying to help Hutchinson to safety.

“It’s a big concern for the officers to keep this guy out of traffic, to keep him from getting hurt,” Rousset said.

A threat? To what? A bug he may have landed on?

Gotta say I'd want to shoot someone tasing me 19 times too. Good thing they kept him from being hurt in traffic (on the shoulder?) by electrocuting him instead of....moving him.

It's bad enough it happened, but the fact there are no consequences is what galls us.

The fact you cannot or will not see this is what makes me wonder what you get out of the cop worship; surely not something healthy.

[ratherfish]

"Do your NAZI friends take offence to that and so they then take it out on others instead of someone who isn't afraid to stand up to them?"

Is THIS your stand????????????????
A gun board in another STATE?????????

You're a yankee punk.

And you stirred up the OTHER ONE!!!!!!


Someone put this thread out of it's misery.

[mamabearCali]

Ratherfish you and I usually see eye to eye.

I think this thread has a purpose.

We need to hold those entrusted to enforce our laws accountable for the methods they use. When they step outside what is reasonable and what is legal. When they act like they are above the law or worse that their word is law, they need to be reminded of who they really work for.

In the past few years there has either been A. an increase in the use of lethal and brutal force by LEO's on citizens or B. documentation showing just how much has been occurring. Both are bad. This is worthy of attention and discussion.

However the name calling has been less than useful.

[BertMacklin]

They ain't gonna stop fighting, have to admire the perseverance though.

[Palladin]

They ain't gonna stop fighting, have to admire the perseverance though.

yup - an' one of them's a Hessian...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlKPgtO6oYw

[dorminWS]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=575727099190133

[ratherfish]

nazi's?

Individuals who exceed their authority as LEOs should be proscuted.

This thread stands witness to "rage against the man"... not justice. We may see a point in the future where the "system" attempts to use government to control us as the nazi's did. You will see INDIVIDUALS both LEOs and military who will REFUSE to carry out those unlawfull orders. Thay will be in a majority. The bad seeds who abuse their authority will be empowered by the government to further abuse. All should be weeded out NOW by the rule of law. LEO's are not nazis as a group and I resent them being presented in that fashion.

Many are watching silently deciding their participation in this forum as we speak. I intend to show that there are participants in this forum that appreciate them putting their lives on the line everyday to preserve our civil society and the real rule of law. That they are not as a group nazis, pigs....etc.

Continue that falsehood and I will continue to comment in this regard.

[BertMacklin]

Their is danger in that certainty.

[Newgunguy]

nazi's?

Individuals who exceed their authority as LEOs should be proscuted.

This thread stands witness to "rage against the man"... not justice. We may see a point in the future where the "system" attempts to use government to control us as the nazi's did. You will see INDIVIDUALS both LEOs and military who will REFUSE to carry out those unlawfull orders. Thay will be in a majority. The bad seeds who abuse their authority will be empowered by the government to further abuse. All should be weeded out NOW by the rule of law. LEO's are not nazis as a group and I resent them being presented in that fashion.

Many are watching silently deciding their participation in this forum as we speak. I intend to show that there are participants in this forum that appreciate them putting their lives on the line everyday to preserve our civil society and the real rule of law. That they are not as a group nazis, pigs....etc.

Continue that falsehood and I will continue to comment in this regard.

Really so is this all you can come up with? So how do you bring these NAZI'S to justice, when it has been proven that they just try to cover it up and hide it all every level? So you take offence to me calling them NAZI'S soley because you are pals with them? Well that had another term back during the 40's in many countries and the best is collaborator! So if you think that they would refuse to listen to these commands for the common good, then why do we not see this now? Don't you think that if they wait till later the consequences for them to stand up to injustice would be greater than it would be now? Or maybe since you are saying that they are sitting in the shadows and silently watching that they are COWARDS and are just waiting to choose the side that will best suit themselves! So maybe calling them all NAZI'S is a little much, at least some NAZI'S did try to eliminate the problem, oh like Claus von Stauffenberg and his group, yes they did fail but at least they tried and didn't sit in the sidelines and watch like cowards. Plus how many times have you seen any of them really stop a crime in the act, don't they just usually show up after the fact all juiced up and treat everyone like a suspect. Sometimes that has serious consequences for grieving and helpless victims now doesn't it ratherfish. So you can call me a yankee all you would like, but since you obviously can't read, I was raised in the south for just about all my life and I would much rather be down there.

So keep licking clean the boots of your cowardly NAZI friends, I would had to see you get a staph infection for when the day that they turn on you and your head is under one of their boots!

Charles.

[ratherfish]

People are individuals.

YOU are the counter culture NAZI!

Does blowing hot air in another State get you excited? It MUST you're here! Resign your Massholedom! Too scared to show your true colors at home????

As with ALL of society criminals should be punished under the LAW. GET IT! That applies to everyone. Why don't you work for that and shove the NAZI police thing into the dark recesses of your obviouslt troubled ^$$ (mind).

LEOS get more attention because they are OUT THERE! YOU AREN"T
SO YOU SEEK ATTENTION HERE! Someone probably gave you a ticket your obsessing on or something. The NAZI THING IS WAYYYYYY OVER THE LINE.
THAT diminishes every person who has validly been wronged by a LEO!

Punks calling ALL LEOS nazi's does nothing but reveal you as a punk!

walk off into that grievance society sunset with your buddy and have a LEO bashing sideshow over a beer! You do no service to your cause.

ALL LEO'S ARE NOT NAZI'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you truely believe that you're unstable boy!

[Swampman]

@dorminWS - that right there was freakin' funny! I don't care who ya are!

[OleMan]

I have a history of several LEOs in my family beginning with my grandfather. They cover rural, small town, city, state and Federal all the way from around WWI until the present.

I have also had the misfortune of encountering several bad cops, including verbal abuse and a group of younger off duty drunk cops trying to start a fight with me. One I had real problems with later went to prison on a felony burglary conviction. Another that I knew but never had a run-in with was convicted in the same burglary case, and later was also convicted of a brutal murder and executed.

However, the very large majority of my contacts with LEOs - local, state and federal - have been good. They want to do their job right and often have real empathy for the victims of crime. Sometimes when they don't perform, it is because they are overloaded.

Seeing both sides of LEOs give me a good perspective for an individual citizen. Also, I have clocked a lot of decades - had time to experience things.

So, when cops go bad, it is not the whole police department or the whole community of LEOs - it is generally one or a few. To be accurate about the bad ones, they are arrogant, stupid, brutal, uncaring, etc., etc. Some are even criminal. The large majority are excellent to perhaps just ok, but are not any of those things that would merit calling they all LEOs "NAZI".

If we want to rectify individual cases or improve the overall situation with an agency, any pressure should be applied to the public officials that hire, provide for training, equipping, training, and managing law enforcement officers. We also need to be supportive of the good cops

[grumpyMSG]

Newgunguy, you seem to search the nation to find all that is bad with the LEO community. My last post I chose just a few of the good things they did. I barely scratched the surface. You know what I haven't seen a lot of from you? All of the criminal activity by the police officers, troopers, sheriffs and deputies here in Virginia. I have seen 3 out of 6 officers fired from a town's department and end up paying fines for looking the other way concerning criminal activity. I have seen Sheriffs go to jail for looking the other way about a cock fighting ring. I have seen police officers fired for violating policy after pepper spraying someone who rolled their arm up in the car window. His violation, he reached instead of insisting she pass out her license. I have see others fined and fired killing someone's pet. In virtually all those cases those individuals were unemployable as LEOs after their incidents. I have never seen an LEO who deserved to be called a Nazi or be compared to the SS, that might be the case where you are from, but you continue to live there, so it must not be that bad.

I have seen plenty of posters on here mention respect. It goes two ways, giving and receiving. I would rather start off giving everybody the benefit of the doubt, right from the start. Initially I will start with a healthy dose of courtesy and reasonable level of respect. In return I expect something similar. Sir or Ma'am goes a long way, even with a 19 year old Sheetz or Wawa employee. LEOs don't deserve more respect than the man on the city's recycling or trash truck or that guy out there at 2 AM paving interstate 81. They don't deserve your contempt or hatred either.

Newgunguy, you can feel free to hate anyone you choose, and I will continue to visit once and a while, having my thoughts about what an unhappy soul you must be, so filled with hate for somebody just because of the job they chose. I had the privilege of serving in the National Guard with a bunch of them and most of them were good people, a few were jerks, but if you went for the percentages I am sure there was little to no difference in the problem LEO/ Soldiers and the regular part time Soldiers.

[Palladin]

Well said, men. Spoken like true Virginians.

[Newgunguy]

http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/biza ... und-taser/

Charles.

[ratherfish]

http://www.thethinblueline.net/

Rick

[OleMan]

http://www.odmp.org/

[grumpyMSG]

Look I found a theme song for Newgunguy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJJAn27OvNM