More injustice from cops

[mk4]

curiouser and curiouser...

http://wtop.com/120/2883010/Va-police-o ... s-shooting

[Reverenddel]

Do LEO's realize they have an uphill battle?

When you quiz "John Q Public", if he's a citizen, he's insulted you stopped him. If he's a criminal, he's trying to find a way out. If he's a wanna-be cop, he'll chat your ears off.

And if he just knows his rights way too well, he just pisses off the LEO, and then the fun begins!

But seriously, the police as of late being an arm of the political machine haven't been used properly, and have an image issue.

[WRW]

Makes one wonder if the investigation of the mother might have delayed the charges against the son.

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[Newgunguy]

Finally this PIG was arrested and hopefully will be put into general population. Also hopefully the woman's husband sues the hell out of that town.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/cri ... der/669686

[mk4]

very informative update: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showt ... ost1767509

[grumpyMSG]

It would appear that the the wheels of justice are turning, just not at the pace some people would have liked. I would rather have it done right, not necessarily fast. I will take this version of justice over the trainwreck that is the handling of the Trayvon Martin case.

[Newgunguy]

Well I'm going to keep this one going. Seems like this site isn't as populated as some others, which is a shame, but I'll make sure to keep posting stuff. Well since the culpepper Nazi was finally arrested, lets see what happens with this one. Yes it does seem that even though they know they are being filmed, they keep doing stuff and getting away with it.

http://www.14news.com/story/25373338/ne ... ign=buffer

"Officials with the Boone County Sheriff's Department have released dash cam footage and radio traffic from a deputy-involved shooting incident that left Samantha Ramsey, 19, dead early Saturday morning.

Deputy Tyler Brockman was on another call on River Road before investigating a field party further down the road where Ramsey was located. One thing led to another, and that's when officials say Brockman fired four shots, killing Ramsey.

"While he was en route to that accident, he finds somebody walking down the road that he stops and checks out. From that, he learns about this field party up the road," said Tom Scheben with the Boone County Sheriff's Department.

In the video, Brockman talks to the driver of one vehicle, and then lets them go. Eventually, he engages the driver of another car turning out to be Samantha Ramsey. She pulls into the road and leaves the camera's view. A "shots fired" call by Brockman is then heard over the radio."

I still see this as he put himself into this situation and just was pissed that she didn't respect his authorita!!

Charles.

[vaeevictiss]

I know exactly how this will turn out. Paid vacation, slap on the wrist, back on the job. We all must have missed that memo that cops have a license to kill now.

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[mamabearCali]

How did he end up on her hood? It looks to all the world like he is beside her car? Did he jump on her hood?

Are there any other witnesses other than the cop?

[grumpyMSG]

I know exactly how this will turn out. Paid vacation, slap on the wrist, back on the job. We all must have missed that memo that cops have a license to kill now.

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Just like the other incidents, why not wait to see what comes of the investigation before badmouthing folks?

Look at the facts of the case. As we can read it right now the deputy was responding to an accident and finds an individual walking down the road at night. Depending on how far he was from the accident, what might be the first thing that pops into the deputy's head right then? If it was me, I am sure I might be thinking "Is this person leaving the scene of an accident?", We don't hear a description of the condition of the person walking down the road, had the individual smelled like he had been drinking, was that person intoxicated? When he got to the accident up the road, the cause of the initial call, did he find another person who may have attended the party? Was that person intoxicated? If the answers to those questions started being yes several times. What do you think that deputy should do?

I will start to do some speculating at this point, do to a serious lack of information. I think the first individual was probably wobbly at a minimum, the accident up the road involved a driver leaving the party. He or she was probably intoxicated too. At this point I would be calling dispatch and seeing if I could get some assistance out there at the party. It was night, who knows how many deputies are available at that time. If I were in his shoes I probably would have use my vehicle to block the gate of the field where the party was being held, if it was fenced off. If it was a bunch of under-age kids drinking as I suspect may have been happening, the last thing you want to have happen is a bunch of "I am not drunk Oshifer" kids scattering to the winds over the roads. All of them running from you. I think the solution at moments like that is not to worry about arresting anybody, dump their alcohol, stay there as long as possible and make them sleep it off in the field.

From what the video showed, the first car stopped for the officer. The second slowed and tried to go around him. He appears to try to get them to stop and leaves the screen. How he ended up on the hood of a car shooting through the windshield is the $64,000 question. it looked like she sped up just as she left the view of the camera, did the deputy exercise really poor judgment by jumping in front of a car driven by an individual he suspects had been drinking? Did he jump on the hood to try to get her to stop? Why did the teen not stop for the deputy? Was his judgment impaired by the adrenalin coursing through his veins and hers by the alcohol coursing through her veins?

[vaeevictiss]

I'll give you that no one knows what happened, but I'm just playing it safe based on seeing what police are becoming, as ignorant as that may be of me. If cops are going to ASSUME all dogs people own are dangerous (so they shoot them), then I'm just going to assume all police are dangerous until the good ones prove me wrong.

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[SgtBill]

I'll give you that no one knows what happened, but I'm just playing it safe based on seeing what police are becoming, as ignorant as that may be of me. If cops are going to ASSUME all dogs people own are dangerous (so they shoot them), then I'm just going to assume all police are dangerous until the good ones prove me wrong.

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After reading some of the new post's on this forum like the one above I can see why I left the forum. I am happy that I never was like the above stated as assumed by the poster and that I got my 25 years in and retired before I turned into one of the so called horrible cop's that are out there today that step all over peoples rights and shoot them for no reason. I suppose that with 2 children a son and a daughter now in law enforcement I should keep a sharp eye on them because I ASSUME that they will ASSUME that all people other then law enforcement are bad and either lock them up or shoot them and that would be a bad thing I think

I think that I will ASSUME that I left the forum for a good reason and leave it at that.
Sgt Bill

[OakRidgeStars]

Not everyone here bashes cops, Bill. It's a shame you can't take the good with the bad.

Regardless, I'm glad you stopped by and posted. It's been way too long.

[mamabearCali]

I am not saying good or bad. I am saying "how did he get on the car"? If she rammed him with her car....that is one thing. If he jumped on her car, that is another.

I don't assume all LEOs are bad, but I do think when lethal force is used that more questions need to be raised. There are situations where a LEO has no other option. There are situations where it is used without cause. There are gray situations. Which one is this...I don't know.

[Palladin]

Hey, Bill! Good to see you've still got that spark. Come on back and tell us how you really feel.

I've missed having your input on here.
Glen

[Newgunguy]

After reading some of the new post's on this forum like the one above I can see why I left the forum. I am happy that I never was like the above stated as assumed by the poster and that I got my 25 years in and retired before I turned into one of the so called horrible cop's that are out there today that step all over peoples rights and shoot them for no reason. I suppose that with 2 children a son and a daughter now in law enforcement I should keep a sharp eye on them because I ASSUME that they will ASSUME that all people other then law enforcement are bad and either lock them up or shoot them and that would be a bad thing I think

I think that I will ASSUME that I left the forum for a good reason and leave it at that.
Sgt Bill :doh


Well till the day that we hear of someone stepping up and stopping incidents like this from happening, they all will be treated the same way by me. With all the stories, with video proof, coming out as late that show the thuggery tactics of them beating people while already cuffed, how can anyone not think this way? Sure they might then go to show compassion after the beating but if they were not in the group thug mentality they wouldn't have been pummeling on someone in the first place! So until that day sgt bill, if they are going to stand together as thugs, well then I would love to see them all fall together as thugs.

Charles.

[ratherfish]

Sorry but the term COP and PIG pretty much say it all.

ANY vocation has bad apples. They should be treated as such and weeded out.

LEO's have a hazardous and difficult job. That alone commands basic respect. You want thuggs? Go to DC. You'll be hoping for the protection of the thin blue line.

[Newgunguy]

Well this isn't dc, yet who does one call for something like this? This seems kinda familiar doesn't it, almost like some women being rushed for bottles of water perhaps!

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/philippe-holland/

Holland delivered the cheeseburger late on April 22nd, and walked back to his gold Ford Taurus, his hoodie was up and his hands were in his pockets. Two plainclothes officers who were responding to a gunshot call a few blocks away approached him. The officers asked Holland to stop, but Holland didn’t stop. In fact, he rushed to his car and started hurriedly driving. It is believed Holland thought he was being robbed.

The officers, who were not wearing uniforms at the time and had been in an unmarked car, claim that they identified themselves as police when they asked Holland to stop. They also claim that Holland “drove at a high rate of speed towards the officers”. It is possible that Holland didn’t hear the officers identify themselves, and it’s possible the officers did not identify themselves as police until after Holland was rushing away, if at all.

For anyone that honestly believes they just walked up to them and identified themselves first, I have some prime real estate to sell you!

Oh and ratherfish, if any vocation has their bad apples, how come we don't hear more stories of postal carriers killing dogs in their own yards? I do believe that they are walking to and from more peoples homes than any NAZI in this country, yet they seem to still have a low encounter rate with VICIOUS dogs.

Charles.

[ratherfish]

Your slant is obvious.

Maybe a bit less time on "police state" would be in order.

If you don't hear stories about postal carriers and vicious dogs you don't know any. They all carry mace.

Hint: If your asked by two officers not in uniform to stop, with your hands in your pockets and your hoodie up, it might be good to do so because they want to see their wives and kids that night.

[grumpyMSG]

Newgunguy, you really do hate the police. I will pull out my crystal ball and predict a really bad interaction between you and them in the future. You will not be respectful to them and be offended when they are not respectful to you. The sad part is, it will only confirm in your eyes what you already "knew". A cousin to the infamous self fulfilling prophecies. You only see the bad in interactions with them. Now here are a few more for you to hate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQVsat26jA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9OFukG3W_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSywiwgC4Dk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nu1pijJwf8

They are not angels, they are human beings just like you and me. Most are good people, but law enforcement officers are like the rest of society. There are a few bad apples same as Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines. I don't know of a single part of society that doesn't have a few.