Connecticut Gun Owners - Ongoing Civil Disobedience

[MarcSpaz]

I have often said that I hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime. Unfortunately, the older I get the more likely it seems it will be.

Truth be told, if it's going to happen, it needs to happen now. I don't encourage it and don't want it, but the left has the youth of America brainwashed into submission and has lied to them about our history. In my opinion, its likely that people under the age of 40 would likely be more prone to either side with the Progressives or sit by and do nothing as they get herded into slavery of the elites. If freedom and liberty stand a chance, the battle needs to be fought by men old enough to remember what our grandfathers taught us and still young enough to do something about it.

For now, we need to educate our young people and those diehard libs who are multi-generation democrat; showing them how historically and globally Progressivism (socialism/communism) policies have failed every single time since the beginning of civilization. Then we need to get the right people voted into office by the masses. I think that, even above civil war, is the only true means to preserve our way of life, our country, our Constitution.

[SHMIV]

Civil war is not something I wish for. Indeed, an outbreak of civil war would quite likely result in the United States being overtaken by a foreign entity. That, of course, would defeat the purpose of the whole thing.

But, putting that aside, a civil war would still be an unpleasant ordeal, and I would much prefer a more peaceful resolution to our problems.

I, too, have little faith in those under 40. But, as I myself am under 40, I do have some faith. Also, I take heart in remembering Young Republican meetings that I attended in Florida, as well as other Conservative gatherings that I attended in the same time frame. This was around 2007 or so.

These gatherings, I suspect, were Tea Party gatherings, before the movement had been named.

At the time, I was not yet 30, and I was amongst the oldest in attendance. Today, many of the other attendees are still shy of 30.

So, the young are not a total loss. Some of those young folks were running for office, down there. And, they struck me as good public speakers, and probably have a good chance of progressing in politics.

Liberal youth may be willing to go to jail for their causes; but conservative young folks are willing to get decent haircuts, and wear sensible clothes, and run for office.

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[Reverenddel]

"Indeed, an outbreak of civil war would quite likely result in the United States being overtaken by a foreign entity."

There is your unifying force, brotha...

I may despise the progressive/commies in this country, and they me, but if we were INVADED?! I can see some of those on the Left come to me for a rifle, and some ammo.

Once more, I'm inclined to give it to them.

As to the loss of the conservative movement in the youth? I think a loss of TRADITIONAL conservatives yes. If you talk with people in their 20's, they're pissed OFF at the Government, they're starting to realize that they were lied too, and that the regulations are why they're still living at home with mommy, and whomever mommy is shackin' up with this week (because Daddys were "optional" in the 90's.)

They're LIBERTARIAN as hell, and once more, they don't like EITHER side of the coin!

[kelu]

If freedom and liberty stand a chance, the battle needs to be fought by men old enough to remember what our grandfathers taught us and still young enough to do something about it.

I may be wrong but these guys may be a formidable force not because they move fast (hehe) but because they don't have much to loose. As they grow older, they're less afraid to die, and more interested in leaving something behind.

[MarcSpaz]

I would agree. As I get older myself, I find myself thinking they way more and more.

[SHMIV]

Civil war could be a unifying force, or it could be the final nail.

I know more than a few that would do anything to avoid a conflict, up to and including involuntary servitude. (Although, if one is captive on account of immediate and unconditional surrender, one wonders if the resulting servitude isn't voluntary, after all. Probably is.)

I wonder, should a civil war break out under the current (and spineless) administration, and American enemies saw an opportunity to attack, and acted on it... how would the current administration react?

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[MarcSpaz]

Easy. Threaten sanctions about 85 times. Tell the invaders that they are not invaders, but undocumented immigrants and offer them free healthcare and food stamps. Send the Conservative/Tea Party groups the bill, because even civil war is second to the fact that we all have jobs to go to and would still have income.

[BertMacklin]

"Indeed, an outbreak of civil war would quite likely result in the United States being overtaken by a foreign entity."

There is your unifying force, brotha...

I may despise the progressive/commies in this country, and they me, but if we were INVADED?! I can see some of those on the Left come to me for a rifle, and some ammo.

Once more, I'm inclined to give it to them.

As to the loss of the conservative movement in the youth? I think a loss of TRADITIONAL conservatives yes. If you talk with people in their 20's, they're pissed OFF at the Government, they're starting to realize that they were lied too, and that the regulations are why they're still living at home with mommy, and whomever mommy is shackin' up with this week (because Daddys were "optional" in the 90's.)

They're LIBERTARIAN as hell, and once more, they don't like EITHER side of the coin!

Some are that certainly but not as many as one might hope. Much of the militant, physically and/or mentally fit youth are swept up pretty quickly into the machine; be it military service or some other government career. Another slice of youth is disinterested the events around them, a fair chunk of the young liberal vote, or are too busy trying to get ahead monetarily to worry about it; amounting to no votes/activity. There is a conservative block but this is a minority, and of this minority you have smaller a group of supposedly enlightened Libertarians who catch hell for losing elections and hurting the cause with ideals contrary to conservatives.

They are separate as you said of both parties. Any good that come from libertarians won't be from them or their candidates but rather their platforms. Everyone can and will spot progressives and their evil agenda everywhere but what the hell is a progressive? Real progressives stood on the shoulders of Populists in an attempt in the 19th and 20th centuries to take on the corrupt elite and social ails with the aide of government. These parties don't exist in name anymore but their ideals are everywhere. One doesn't win any elections with a new party rather the best one can hope for is that a small amount of his ideas gets passed on to a candidate from party that can win and that in the end these ideals aren't so distorted by the process as to be unusable or become something completely different than what was intended, like progressives today.

Either way with the exception the minority of a minority the youth isn't going to be ready for any drastic changes nor will it have the will for anything close to war.

[Viper21]

Catching on in Kalifornia too eh....?! http://www.teaparty.org/californians-re ... map=%5B%5D

[MarcSpaz]

Good for them. These politicians need to knock off the personal agenda (based in fear and ignorance) and start supporting the will of the people.

I can't say how many times this week I have questioned how thee officials keep getting elected. I am really starting to think elections are rigged... all of them.

[Kreutz]

If a civil war were to start, I would not have guessed Connecticut as the location of the first shot... Tennessee, Texas, Georgia, or even Virginia, maybe.

This could get interesting. Could be that reset button Kreutz asked for.

Or, it could fizzle out. We'll see.

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I think it will fizzle out; what we're seeing is a bit of chest-beating from both sides trying to save face until this blows over.

In all honesty I don't see the new insane CT or NY gun laws being strictly enforced. Woe to the guy who gets found out with an AR during say, a traffic stop, but if left in the closet at home I doubt it'd ever be under threat of confiscation.

[j1mmyd]

Woe to the guy who gets found out with an AR during say, a traffic stop, but if left in the closet at home I doubt it'd ever be under threat of confiscation.

Selective enforcement of unconstitutional laws nicely defines tyranny for me.

[Kreutz]

Woe to the guy who gets found out with an AR during say, a traffic stop, but if left in the closet at home I doubt it'd ever be under threat of confiscation.

Selective enforcement of unconstitutional laws nicely defines tyranny for me.

Would it make you feel better if I told you that if you're connected in the Northeast gun laws totally don't apply to you?