I used to think Virginia was pro 2A

[Kreutz]

I've mentioned this before, but having spent 8 years in NYC and Westchester County, NY; then one in San Francisco, Virginia is like heaven. Just don't take it all for granted. Arlington and other parts of NoVA *so badly* want to be as "cosmopolitan and enlightened" (read "unarmed") as they see other metro areas on TV are...

The Westchester county 30 page application for a may issue range permit (i.e. you may only take a handgun from home to a range and back without any stops) is proof this is correct.

[graybeard321]

Need t o correct TallEd, in KY makes better Bourbon. Just about anybody he who has drove i-64 see's the signs for the KY Bourbon trail. The wife and I went to NRA convention several years back and stopped at several of the distillery’s on the way to convention. So not only is it a great 2A state but a great place to visit.

[Reverenddel]

I work pretty hard with the VCDL on keeping VA legal, but it's an uphill battle with the Carpetbaggers, and Transplants in NoVa, and Tidewater...

The "Come'Here's" are the STRONGEST supporters of the 2A, and work the hardest to keep it from "Going Banned". For that? I thank you all.

[GeneralG]

VA is gun friendly, as long you aren't in NOVA, Hampton Roads, Norfolk or other densely populated Democrat strongholds. That's where all the bed-wetters live. I'm out here in the northern Shen. Valley and don't have any problems. Occasionally I get funny looks, but I don't give a rip. They'd be glad I was packin' if they were being threatened by some goon. If I go into the aforementioned battle zones, I conceal to keep the hub-bub to a minimum. This ain't Kentucky Toto!

Agreed, I live in Warren County and rarely do I ever get someone looking at my open or concealed carry with worry about what my intentions are, in fact most ask questions about what I carry and what the proper steps are for them to get training so they can carry as well.

[scrubber3]

For what it's worth, AZ struts the 2nd Amendment like a new pair of kicks. They don't even require a CCP to conceal. Open carry is the norm and gun stores everywhere. They put serious shame on every other state in America.

VA is very pro 2nd. Most of this thanks to the fact that the VCDL is so active and the NRA headquarters is located here in Fairfax.

It's up to us to keep the Blue bastards out. This state is purple enough already....

[milspecnsn]

Hi there!

Compared to the states immediately north of our Commonwealth we are extremely Pro second amendment. I live in Fredericksburg and I see folks, both men and women, open carrying all the time. The nearest range for pistol firing is a bit of a ways (about eight miles north in Stafford) but don't let the lack of ranges fool you. Virginia citizens are (discreetly) armed to the teeth.

Be well you!

Yep I'm also in Fred and recently saw 2 gentlemen OC'ing cocked &locked
1911s in Central Park Wal mart. Compared to the NY gulag I escaped from, VA is my little "slice of paradise". I love VA and all things Southern

[graybeard321]

I think the VCDL does a great job at protecting our gun rights, i wish the NRA was half as effective. What we need to do to make VA a more 2A friendly state is to combine northern VA with DC make them the 51th state.

[snatale42]

But after living in Kentucky for 3 years, I've gotta say this commonwealth is anything but friendly.

Couple of things I find anti 2a
1) massive amounts of police in Va.
2) CCW doesn't exempt one from firearm background checks. In Ky a cdwl license means you've already proven eligible to own gun.
3) " big scary black gun" requirement for additional paperwork. Ridiculous.
4) no weapons permit, conceal carry only applies to handguns
5) state preemption doesn't apply to rifle/shotguns
6) state preemption doesn't apply to hunting.
7) seems there is a large amount of older shooters who believe in 2a for hunting only.
8 ) gun ranges are sparse. Nothing comparative to say Knob Creek.

The only thing va has that I wish ky had was the 45 day de facto ccl. I'm currently waiting at 4 months for my stuff to get back.

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I disagree with most, but agree with others

1) How does the amount of Police have anything to do with whether a state is Pro2A or not?
2) It shouldn't. I'm not for "Gun Control" but I'm not against background checks. Passing a check when you get your permit doesn't mean you haven't been dq'd after the fact.
3) This I agree with, even in my home state of MA which isn't the most gun friendly, AR's and AK's are just rifles. No Birth Cert's or Voter cards to purchase. Our permit is all we need, don't even have to show a DL to purchase.
7) the opinion of some "older shooters" has nothing to do with anything, it's their personal opinion, nothing more.
8 ) Also very weird. There are MANY more gun shops and ranges in Eastern MA (where all the antis are) than in Central VA. I thought it would be the complete opposite when I moved here.

[Kreutz]

AZ, VT, NH, and AK are the most gun friendly states no?

VA is still heaven on Earth compared to NY, but I joined VCDL when I moved here to make it better yet.

My father and I might go against common sense and mix money and family and buy a little spot to shoot somewhere not far from Roanoke. I'd have to keep an eye on him and make sure he doesn't start any illicit "gardens" though.

[Chasbo00]

AZ, VT, NH, and AK are the most gun friendly states no?

NH? Or, did you mean WY?

[snatale42]

AZ, VT, NH, and AK are the most gun friendly states no?

NH? Or, did you mean WY?

NH is extremely gun friendly

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[scrubber3]

Though NH is very gun friendly... WY is constitutional carry.

[EchoMirage]

Dude, I just moved here from Los Angeles. Don't even TRY to tell me that VA isn't 2A friendly. You don't know how bad it is on the west coast.
I am here now, and let me tell you... its total culture shock to not be treated like a criminal. Having a loaded handgun openly on your front seat? Its LEGAL? Unbelievable... CHL without having to have political "connections"? Shock and awe. Just dont say VA is "Anti-2A" until you live in Kalifornistan.

i feel your former pain brother. im still behind the iron curtain in the communist police state of NJ. with any luck, ill be in VA within this year. while not as bad as ca, and now ny, ma, md, nj is no picnic in terms of gun freedom. and paying taxes.....i think we have the highest tax rate in the nation.

it is flat out impossible to ever get a carry permit here, yet we are still listed as 'may issue.' no....its a flat out ban, right denied, plain and simple. mag limits at 15, and god forbid you have a flash hider or bayonet lug.....

people living in free america dont know how good they have it. the police states want you as victims, nothing else. anyone hear of the car jacking/murder in the short hills mall a few weeks ago? at a VERY upscale mall, in a VERY upscale neighborhood, where 'you dont need guns' for safety. see how that worked out. wouldve been nice for the driver or his wife to have a pistol on them to defend themselves. but mere survival doesnt meet the 'justifiable need.'

[SpecialJ79]

Have to agree with folks with the VA/MD comparison. I am military stationed and living in Marylanistan... And my VA resident CHP does nothing here. Can't carry anywhere at anytime outside the house. But a short trip over one of two bridges and I'm back in a free state. Only part that sucks is coming home.... Stopping before I cross the state line and locking it back up in the trunk.

[jmax]

We are moving to NoVa this spring from the LA area. It is horrendous to the point a former LEO from out of state cannot get a CCW, it may not be Ky or TNT but it is heaven.

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[jmax]

We are moving to NoVa this spring from the LA area. It is horrendous to the point a former LEO from out of state cannot get a CCW, it may not be Ky or TNT but it is heaven.

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[MarcSpaz]

I may have mentioned it before, but I fall into the "come here" class of VA resident. I came from Rhode Island. I had my CWP up there. There were less than 200 non-LEO's in the state who had a permit when I got mine. The only reason I was approved was because I scored a 280 on my shooting test, showed several cash reciepts for $100,000+ for electronics, was recommended by 2 police chiefs, a police captin, and my family was friends with a mayor and the govenor at the time who both put in a good word for me behind the scene. Seems like that was the only way to make it happen in a lib state.

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[SHMIV]

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't quite understand why a massive purchase of electronics has anything to do with firearm proficiency.

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[Kreutz]

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't quite understand why a massive purchase of electronics has anything to do with firearm proficiency.

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In "may issue" states you have to "show need"...like you have a lot of valuables, routinely carry cash for your job, etc.

[SHMIV]

Ahh, of course. Thank you. Makes sense, now.

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