Kind of a strange question. Selling a handgun to a returning

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Kind of a strange question. Selling a handgun to a returning

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This is kind of strange, I guess. :roll: I just want to be 100% positive, so I figured I'd ask anyways.

I have a handgun for sale. And a returning military member is returning from overseas soon. They apparently sold off their firearms or didn't own any before they left. They want to be able to be armed as soon as they "get off the plane". Now I understand the Federal and state requirements. Must be a resident of the state, not a felon (duh). But for some odd reason, is there anything else required because they are just getting back into the country?

If they have a VA DL, PCS orders, VA CHP in various combinations, etc. Are they and I good to go?

Like I said, dumb question. :hysterical:
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JackFlag wrote: But for some odd reason, is there anything else required because they are just getting back into the country?
Why would a military service member returning from duty outside the country be subject to a different set of rules with respect to purchasing a gun - makes no sense to me. What's your reasoning for thinking this might be the case?
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There are no dumb questions when your dealing with firearms. Always err on the side of caution, it's just the smart thing to do. He is subject to the same rules and laws that any one would be, nothing out of the ordinary. In a private sale I would be sure to make a bill of sale with the serial number on it and both of you retain a copy.
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Here's what the VSP has to say about private firearms sales:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
What are the laws concerning the private sale of a handgun?
To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make, model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs. Should the firearm ever be located at a crime scene, trace of the firearm will determine the licensed dealer who last sold the firearm and will identify the last buyer of the firearm. To have your name removed from this process, you may consider placing your firearm on consignment with a licensed dealer. This will also ensure that the firearm is transferred only to a lawfully eligible individual.
This is a handy Bill of Sale form you can use:
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I didn't think so. From past experiences, I sometimes over think things. :roll:

I've done private sales before in a couple states where I've lived, so no biggie. Just making sure. :wave:

Thanks for the bill of sale link. I know that BOS' are a touchy topic. Sometimes I use them, sometimes I don't.
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Why would you not use a bill of sale?

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tursiops wrote:Why would you not use a bill of sale?

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Why would I have too? It's not required by law. If something was amiss, I wouldn't make the deal anyway. I've read the threads here about the BOS, so I know how "passionate" people are on both sides of the argument.
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I would strongly encourage you to use bills of sale whenever you deal in firearms.

I've never heard someone say "Man, I just wish I didn't have ALL this documentation to cover my ass."

While you might not be breaking any laws by not using one, I personally prefer to have documentation for most everything. You never need it until you really need it.

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In truth, I like having BOS just to cover my keister, but I know peeps who get BOS's, and then cannot remember where they put them.

SOOOOO be weary of WHAT information is located on a BOS. IE: NO SS NUMBERS! NO D/L NUMBERS! NO DOB!

Address, phone, name. That's all I need.
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All I'm saying is that I had guys in my unit who when we came back they wanted guns like they were going out of style. Which is great and all I suppose but you know, when I'm sitting at my friends house and he decides to show me his room clearing technique I can't tell you how quickly it ruined my steak to look up and see him pie-ing corners. Then he think's its funny. Retard. It was almost as if he had become too comfortable around a weapon.

I'm just saying that maybe the dude needs to unwind a bit before getting hooked up. CHL PCS orders hey that's great, did he get that CHL before he left? People come back different, and suddenly there were guys in my unit whose judgement around firearms outside a combat zone I didn't exactly trust anymore. Mainly because they were so spun up all the time. Some of these guys have legit PTSD (others are a bunch of fakers) issues that have not been attended to yet. No one ever seeks treatment because they are so focused on getting off the plane, out of screening and to the family. Like I said some of them, I don't trust with guns anymore, I sure as hell wouldn't let them near my family, nor would others. It's your call but I'm just saying you might want to let the guy unwind a bit and get used to life back in the normal world.
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