We all have the right to own whatever handguns and rifles that our military and law enforcement uses. ar-15 /m-16 hi cap mag .
The reason is simple, the 2nd amendment was giving the "people", the "regular citizens " the right to bear arms so that the people could train using their own weapons to defend their freedom from foreign invaders or their own government/military / rogue law enforcement whoever, and since those types in modern day would be carrying ar 15/m-16 & hi cap mags or whatever "assault rifles" then john q citizen has a right to own those same weapons to be able to defend against em.
Think about it, the way they are headed now with all these restrictions is like if back then had they restricted citizens to only carry bow & arrows while the military and law enforcement were allowed to have muzzle loaders and cannons.
Every time somebody says " that gun should be restricted to only law enforcement and military" I'm thinking there goes another idiot that thinks the 2nd amendment was about duck hunting or sport shooting in the backyard.
Nobody ever straight up says it but seriously , So called "assault rifles" are needed by the people in order to defend against the "assault rifles" that their own government would be attacking their citizens with if the gov heads down the road of tyranny.
A tyrant would love it if the people were forced to bring only knives or fists to an "assault rifle" fight
" that gun should be restricted to only military" shhhhh
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Re: " that gun should be restricted to only military" shhhhh
I've been saying the same thing for years. I believe that the 2nd amendment covers tanks, grenades, bazookas, etc., as well. Basically, if the military has it, the 2nd amendment covers it.
I have yet to reconcile this belief with the existence of nuclear technology, however.
I have yet to reconcile this belief with the existence of nuclear technology, however.
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Re: " that gun should be restricted to only military" shhhhh
SHMIV wrote:I've been saying the same thing for years. I believe that the 2nd amendment covers tanks, grenades, bazookas, etc., as well. Basically, if the military has it, the 2nd amendment covers it.
I have yet to reconcile this belief with the existence of nuclear technology, however.
As weird as it sounds, I think people out here in henrico would be less freaked out by a tank driving down west broad street, than by a non uniformed guy with an ar 15 slung on his shoulder
nuclear technology that is just too scary to even think about
Re: " that gun should be restricted to only military" shhhhh
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Re: " that gun should be restricted to only military" shhhhh
Exactly. The colonials had artillery capable of shelling the British from about 20 miles out (IIRC) and enough powder/shot to make it work. That's why they marched on Lexington and Concord...it wasn't to capture hunting rifles. In fact, they spiked a few of the larger ones they captured because they were to large to move given the road conditions.SHMIV wrote:I've been saying the same thing for years. I believe that the 2nd amendment covers tanks, grenades, bazookas, etc., as well. Basically, if the military has it, the 2nd amendment covers it.
Target discrimination. WMDs don't, traditional military arms do. It's a much deeper discussion, but it's what makes WMDs impractical and immoral offensive weapons, whereas traditional military arms work offensively and defensively. Had the colonials had nukes it would have been unthinkable to wipeout a major city just because the British were there. However, it was just fine to aim cannons at the British sections/fortifications and bombard them. Precision isn't required (although admired when feasible).SHMIV wrote:I have yet to reconcile this belief with the existence of nuclear technology, however.
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No deeper discussion necessary. I understand your point.gunderwood wrote:Target discrimination. WMDs don't, traditional military arms do. It's a much deeper discussion, but it's what makes WMDs impractical and immoral offensive weapons, whereas traditional military arms work offensively and defensively. Had the colonials had nukes it would have been unthinkable to wipeout a major city just because the British were there. However, it was just fine to aim cannons at the British sections/fortifications and bombard them. Precision isn't required (although admired when feasible).SHMIV wrote:I have yet to reconcile this belief with the existence of nuclear technology, however.
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Re: " that gun should be restricted to only military" shhhhh
I agree. I wish I could buy an m4 straight off the shelf but unless you're a law enforcement agency you can't... Why not? I like the idea of select fire. Yes people use automatics to carry out illegal acts but they also use knives and semi autos to do the same. Me, I just love to shoot and would love to have an m4 but I can't afford a $20,000 auromatic...
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