Colorado massacre, anti gun zealots already flapping gums
Colorado massacre, anti gun zealots already flapping gums
As many of you have probably heard by now, a gunman in full body armor entered a movie theater in Colorado and opened fire on a midnight showing of the Dark Knight rises. At this point of the morning they are saying 14 dead and 50 wounded. In every comment section I have read this morning the loonies have been out calling for more gun control. Do they not realize how bad this country would be without law abiding citizens being able to carry? The crime norms of D.C. and Chicago would be in place everywhere.
I am sure the mainstream nuts will be out in full force later today
I am sure the mainstream nuts will be out in full force later today

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Re: Colorado massacre, anti gun zealots already flapping gums
Full body armor???
I heard bullet "proof" vest.
How is that full body armor?
I heard bullet "proof" vest.
How is that full body armor?
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It's what the media calls it when the bad guys wear bulletproof vests.
When the good guys wear bulletproof vests the media calls it "barely any protection".
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I'm sure the media won't publish it, but I wonder if it was a gun free zone?.....The guy probably knew he wouldn't be shot back at.
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Re: Colorado massacre, anti gun zealots already flapping gums
well Century 16 in Aurora is part of the Cinemark family and while this may have changed , as of 2008 they banned OC and CC in their theatres.skeeterss0 wrote:I'm sure the media won't publish it, but I wonder if it was a gun free zone?.....The guy probably knew he wouldn't be shot back at.
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I see the media has already taken note of how close this is to Columbine H.S.
No doubt the gun-grabbers will not let this tragedy go to waste. They never miss a chance to dance in the blood of innocent victims.
No doubt the gun-grabbers will not let this tragedy go to waste. They never miss a chance to dance in the blood of innocent victims.
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This was the only thing on any of the news. My thoughts all morning have been the same as the rest of you; because we share a viewpoint, and also because the gun-grabbers are soooo predictable. Doctor Michael Baden was on Fox News opining that it was likely there would be recriminations, criticisms and accusations about who and whether the shooter and others "who collect guns" should have been somehow monitored and controlled to prevent this. That was rather a broad brush, I thought, to be painting with. Ignorant @sshole. The guy, by definition, IS CRAZY. To prevent something, you must be able to predict it. Seems to me it is damn near impossible to predict something that's crazy.
It made me think about the infrequent occasions I go to a theater. I sit as close to the middle as I can get between half and two-thirds of the way back. I guess in a situation like the one in Aurora, I'd have been a prime target. I mentioned this to SWMBO, and she very solemnly agreed. We'll see if she agrees to sit to one side of the room next time. My understanding is that the whackjob broke into the theater through an emergency exit, so the no-gun policy (if there was one) would have made no difference even if the theater had airport-type security with metal detectors and body gropes.
I wonder what the backstory on the shooter is; not that it will matter to the gun grabbers. Wonder how long it will take the POTUS to cry some crocodile tears and call for more gun control? Should we start a pool on that? (BTW, in this case, POTUS stands for Prevaricator Of The United States.)
It made me think about the infrequent occasions I go to a theater. I sit as close to the middle as I can get between half and two-thirds of the way back. I guess in a situation like the one in Aurora, I'd have been a prime target. I mentioned this to SWMBO, and she very solemnly agreed. We'll see if she agrees to sit to one side of the room next time. My understanding is that the whackjob broke into the theater through an emergency exit, so the no-gun policy (if there was one) would have made no difference even if the theater had airport-type security with metal detectors and body gropes.
I wonder what the backstory on the shooter is; not that it will matter to the gun grabbers. Wonder how long it will take the POTUS to cry some crocodile tears and call for more gun control? Should we start a pool on that? (BTW, in this case, POTUS stands for Prevaricator Of The United States.)
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The antis and libtards have it exactly wrong. In a society of over 300 million people, there will inevitably be a small number of insane ones. The answer is for the audience to have arms so that the insane criminal can know he is putting himself at risk and perhaps be deterred. Knowing that the victims are all sheep is an encouragement to these lunatics.
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I smell one of the several false flags to support small arms treaty. Expect more like these in the next weeks.
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In an age of insanity, disarming those who hold the line is about the STUPIDEST thing ANY politician can do...
But again... "STUPID", and "POLITICIAN" is repeating myself.
Few, and far between have I found a politician who is a "STATESMEN".
I long for the days where the content of a tax return is LESS important than the content of someone's ideas.
But again... "STUPID", and "POLITICIAN" is repeating myself.
Few, and far between have I found a politician who is a "STATESMEN".
I long for the days where the content of a tax return is LESS important than the content of someone's ideas.
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My post about no-gun policy was meant to emphasize the point that criminals don't abide by the policy anyways.My understanding is that the whackjob broke into the theater through an emergency exit, so the no-gun policy (if there was one) would have made no difference even if the theater had airport-type security with metal detectors and body gropes.
I agree with fireman bob, if the audience were allowed to carry and could have shot back, the shooting may have ended a lot sooner and with fewer people dead or injured.
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Re: Colorado massacre, anti gun zealots already flapping gums
I am saying what was reported at 4 A.M. It along with other "facts" will change after the chaos subsides.AlanM wrote:Full body armor???
I heard bullet "proof" vest.
How is that full body armor?

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What a shame. My heart goes out to the victims and families.
This was supposed to be a gun-free zone. They were supposed to be safe.
I can only imagine what the outcome would have been if there were a number of legally armed citizens in the theatre willing to take action. However, from what I've read the attacker released tear gas and/or smoke bombs and shot as people tried to run for the exits. In a situation like that I'm not sure how effective someone with a pistol would be... especially if there was tear gas.
Still, having a chance to fight back is better than no chance at all.
This was supposed to be a gun-free zone. They were supposed to be safe.

I can only imagine what the outcome would have been if there were a number of legally armed citizens in the theatre willing to take action. However, from what I've read the attacker released tear gas and/or smoke bombs and shot as people tried to run for the exits. In a situation like that I'm not sure how effective someone with a pistol would be... especially if there was tear gas.
Still, having a chance to fight back is better than no chance at all.
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I'm torn, though - I don't know if I trust everyone to shoot accurately in the dark, with smoke and fear clouding their vision. On the other hand, a few return shots even purposely into a safe place may have slowed him down and allowed more to escape.
I can guarantee you that the Obama Administration will use this to continue to restrict the Second Amendment. It will become a political issue, and the poor victims will be used as political pawns.
Maybe if we spent more money on mental health in this country, and people knew they had somewhere safe to turn, we'd have less of this. It's easier to make someone the enemy (gun owners) than it is to genuinely help people (mental health), though.
Sad.
I can guarantee you that the Obama Administration will use this to continue to restrict the Second Amendment. It will become a political issue, and the poor victims will be used as political pawns.
Maybe if we spent more money on mental health in this country, and people knew they had somewhere safe to turn, we'd have less of this. It's easier to make someone the enemy (gun owners) than it is to genuinely help people (mental health), though.
Sad.
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I know it was dark and there was tear gas, but maybe somebody could have picked off the crazy as he was silhouetted by the screen, therefore presenting a relatively easy target. All they prevented with the no-gun policy was the possibility that someone could have mitigated the bloodshed by shooting the killer in self-defense. I think it would have been nice to at least have the option to try.
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Yeah it's just a bad situation. In a movie theater you're surrounded by a bunch of people and you're basically condition white... but you're supposed to be because you're there to watch a movie! The attacker had a tremendous advantage and if it's true that there was smoke/teargas there's not much you can do. Throw in mass panic and people screaming and running towards the exits... I think you're only saving grace in a situation like that is to have as many bodies between you and the shooter as possible.
You're definitely right that the focus is going to be on the gun(s) and not on the criminal. And we're going to be swept up in it. The left is going to do all they can to advance their agenda. It's a shame.
You're definitely right that the focus is going to be on the gun(s) and not on the criminal. And we're going to be swept up in it. The left is going to do all they can to advance their agenda. It's a shame.
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Speaking of the agenda of the left:
"In a statement, President Obama said, "Michelle and I are shocked and saddened by the horrific and tragic shooting in Colorado. Federal and local law enforcement are still responding, and my administration will do everything that we can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time. We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded." "
It's that "ensuring the safety of our people" part that scares the hell outa me.
"In a statement, President Obama said, "Michelle and I are shocked and saddened by the horrific and tragic shooting in Colorado. Federal and local law enforcement are still responding, and my administration will do everything that we can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time. We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded." "
It's that "ensuring the safety of our people" part that scares the hell outa me.
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"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."- Alfred, "The Dark Knight".
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I see Bloomberg as a bigger threat to gun control than Obama. What a nanny on all issues.
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