Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor Act

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uh huh!

You and the president you voted for's mode is to hype the lie of your gold ford pinto 5 million times in the corrupt media in a month until the brainless in the population take it for a fact!

A lie is all liberals have. It's normal to them!
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ShotgunBlast wrote:
I see a problem with someone not doing their due diligence before throwing a parade.
+1

People tell me fantastic stories all the time. Typically, I believe the stories to be fictitious, but I do love a good story. So, while I am hesitant to call them on their BS, I'm certainly not going to reward them for something they have claimed to have done, either.

I am sympathetic to the sentiment behind the Stolen Valor Act, but I can't support the act, itself.

People build characters all the time for the purposes of entertainment. And, often, they will stay in that character for years. They even make money off of people believing that character to be an actual person. However, some quick research will reveal the truth. And nobody cares, because they paid to be entertained, and they were.

So, suppose that an entertainer were to build a character based on a decorated war hero. The Stolen Valor Act would have a negative impact on him, even though he wasn't the type of guy that the Act was directed towards.

As was previously stated, there are already laws in place to prohibit the type of behavior that the Stolen Valor Act was intended to "protect" us from.
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It is and isnt fraud . It is fraud because your telling people your a decorated war vet and your not . It isnt fraud unless he made a fake military id and flashed it around but when you go as far to say i was in the military and your not you must not morels WHAT SO EVER and quite frankly fokes never trust any body fully question everything

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I don't see how it can and can't be fraud at the same time. That's like trying to inhale and exhale at the same time.

All cases of fraud are lies but not all lies are cases of fraud.

Did I tell you about that time I was in Somalia and the black Hawk helicopter went down? Took a bullet in my ass trying to save those boys and got a medal for it. Granted I was only 13 at the time, but that's besides the point.

Gonna haul me into the police station and charge me with fraud?

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Cars enroute you should begin hearing sirens shortly.lol....

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:hysterical: :hysterical:
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The supreme court "ain't".... anymore.

Let's review some of their best work.

Stolen Valor, nuff said

Obamacare Tax okay. (Can't wait to see what happens when all the folks supporting socialized medicine, lose their coveted insurance from their employeres and have to pay full pop. If I was an employer, I'm not sue if I would continue paying for healthcare insurance for employees. Hell, based on the current tax initiative, I probably wouldn't be able to afford it.)

Okay to kill a living, breathing innocent baby.

Not okay to kill a living, breathing, murdering criminal.

I'm Just Sayin.....need I continue.

Time to hook up with Rev Del and get the hell out of dodge.
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That's the thing that scares the hell out of people, if we start changing things by kicking ass where do we stop? What isn't crooked these days? Who is just in their views and motives? Who can we trust our country and children's future to? Usually the bully runs the playground, not the runt. I for one will not run, bow or hide. Men who once were thought to be terrorists are now called founding fathers and patriots.
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Gee, and I thought the job of the Supreme Court was to determine if something was constitutional or not. I guess in reality their job is to line up with your specific set of "values". No wonder you think they're doing a horrible job.

Stolen Valor - free speech - constitutional

Obamacare tax - yeah, I'll give you that one. That decision is a stretch no matter how you look at it.

Abortion - we could go around and around on this one and not get anywhere. I'm in favor of a woman having the choice of what they want to do with their body. Even if you overturn Roe v Wade and leave the choice up to the individual states, states rights - constitutional

Murdering criminal - not sure what you're talking about there since the states determine if they have capital punishment or not. states rights - constitutional

So in my book in determining if something is constitutional or not, they're 3 out of 4 in the hot topics you mentioned.
DWinter wrote:The supreme court "ain't".... anymore.

Let's review some of their best work.

Stolen Valor, nuff said

Obamacare Tax okay. (Can't wait to see what happens when all the folks supporting socialized medicine, lose their coveted insurance from their employeres and have to pay full pop. If I was an employer, I'm not sue if I would continue paying for healthcare insurance for employees. Hell, based on the current tax initiative, I probably wouldn't be able to afford it.)

Okay to kill a living, breathing innocent baby.

Not okay to kill a living, breathing, murdering criminal.

I'm Just Sayin.....need I continue.

Time to hook up with Rev Del and get the hell out of dodge.
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ShotgunBlast wrote: Abortion - we could go around and around on this one and not get anywhere. I'm in favor of a woman having the choice of what they want to do with their body. Even if you overturn Roe v Wade and leave the choice up to the individual states, states rights - constitutional
Many people don't know that, they assume Roe is why abortion is legal in the US, in reality it just made it legal in all the states. If Roe is ever overturned it just kicks it back to them. I know California (of course) has a provision in its state constitution should that ever happen its to be forever legal in their state, and other states have similar provisions, which would in reality to certain states being abortion hotspots...I can forsee them competing for the tourist dollars.
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Awesome stuff. You get states like Mississippi that have essentially regulated abortion clinics out of business to the point that there is only one open in the entire state, and the only reason that's still open is because they filed a federal lawsuit and is able to stay in business for now. Republican Gov. Phil Bryant has said he believes their new law will protect women's health. He has also said he wants Mississippi to be "abortion-free." Well wait a sec. I thought Republicans were all about less regulations and less government. I can respect the governor's position on abortion based on his values and beliefs, but don't force those values and beliefs on the rest of the citizens. Let them make their own decisions about what's best for their family. If you get rid of abortion options in your state, do you think your state is going to be abortion-free? Nope, like you said they'll hop over the border to another state or even worse try and get something done themselves. Now how is that protecting women's health?
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